Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread comex
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Suggestions? I'm happy to make a separate proto at the same > time that gives us some minors. -Goethe It's a Surprise? :p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: > -One off vetos, rubberstamps, etc. Beware of anything that would provide an incentive to propose in decuplicate. A general power of veto, with no per-use cost, could veto decuplicate proposals just as well as a single proposal. A one-off veto, however, threatens only s

DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: > For the rules to define a class of assets to be a card, the > Rules must define its Title, its House, and its Exploit. I think you mean that the *assets* are cards, not that the *class* is a card. I expect the Title, House, and Exploit are attributes of the class,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Has the Speakership ever been vacant? Didn't one deregister in the Pope era? can't remember. This is more about getting a card unstuck expediently than it is about being paranoid about a vacancy. > Errors in holdings can cascade here. Likewise for the o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Quazie
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, comex wrote: >> The problem with this is that the proposal is currently useless, and >> like Locations, this may be forgotten about and eventually repealed. >> I suggest that at least some Minor Arcana

DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > Title: Speaker > Exploit: The holder of this card is the Speaker. If the > holder of this card becomes inactive or if this card is > ever in the deck, the Herald SHALL as soon as possible > transfer it to a randomly determined active Minister Without

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Roger Hicks wrote: >>> Why restrict cards to first-class players? >> >> Major arcana (e.g. prerogatives) should be so restricted. >> > Why? Prerogatives are not currently restricted to first-class players, > are they? (Yes, being Default Justice does a partnership no good, but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Sgeo
> Maybe you could have Refreshing cards, which are automatically generated > at the end of the week; e.g. if a card has Refreshing 4, everyone is > restored up to 4 of them at the end of each week. Then you could have > Refreshing cards for proposals and CFJs, to implement an excess-proposal > limi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Quazie wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Proto-Proposal: the Return of cards. > > Much excitement for this. The thing is, as proposals aren't regulated > like they were the last time cards were in play i'm not quite sure >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 12:25 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, comex wrote: > > The problem with this is that the proposal is currently useless, and > > like Locations, this may be forgotten about and eventually repealed. > > I suggest that at least some Minor Arcana should be defined

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:01 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Exploit: Whenever the Clerk of the Courts assigns a judicial >>> panel, e SHALL assign one with the Default Justice as a member, >>> unless no such panel is eligibl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, comex wrote: > The problem with this is that the proposal is currently useless, and > like Locations, this may be forgotten about and eventually repealed. > I suggest that at least some Minor Arcana should be defined. Suggestions? I'm happy to make a separate proto at the sa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Roger Hicks wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Proto-Proposal: the Return of cards. >>> Cards are tracked by the Herald. Ownership of cards

DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread comex
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Proto-Proposal: the Return of cards. > > For now, lays out a framework for cards and changes prerogatives > to cards, since prerogatives could work better, are pretty > straightforward, and it has been mentioned that they'r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Proto-Proposal: the Return of cards. >> Cards are tracked by the Herald. Ownership of cards is >> restricted to first-class players and The Deck. First-class >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:01 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Exploit: Whenever the Clerk of the Courts assigns a judicial >>> panel, e SHALL assign one with the Default Justice as a member, >>>

DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Proto-Proposal: the Return of cards. > Cards are tracked by the Herald. Ownership of cards is > restricted to first-class players and The Deck. First-class > players CAN transfer cards to each other or the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:01 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Exploit: Whenever the Clerk of the Courts assigns a judicial >> panel, e SHALL assign one with the Default Justice as a member, >> unless no such panel is eligible to be so assigned. > This doesn't work, because

DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 11:55 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Title: Default Justice. > Exploit: Whenever the Clerk of the Courts assigns a judicial > panel, e SHALL assign one with the Default Justice as a member, > unless no such panel is eligible to be so assigned. This doe

DIS: Re: BUS: I must be crazy, but...

2008-07-17 Thread Quazie
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Proto-Proposal: the Return of cards. Much excitement for this. The thing is, as proposals aren't regulated like they were the last time cards were in play i'm not quite sure what the Minor cards would end up doing.