Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-28 Thread Ed Murphy
OscarMeyr wrote: > You're right. Cases SHALL NOT be assigned or judged during a > holiday. That's overly strong. You're right, the time limits for reacting to them (via judgement and appeal, respectively) are extended due to the holiday anyway. (I hadn't thought of this when publishing the N

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-28 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Dec 26, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 25 Dec 2008, Benjamin Schultz wrote: My suggestion: holidays: The time between Dec 24 and Jan 2 Just Does Not Exist. Anything happening during that time is deemed to happen on Jan 3 (though in the order it was sent over the holidays

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008, Benjamin Schultz wrote: >> My suggestion: holidays: The time between Dec 24 and Jan 2 Just Does >> Not Exist. Anything happening during that time is deemed to happen >> on Jan 3 (though in the order it was sent over the holidays), and >> for duration-based-spells, er, rules

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-25 Thread Elliott Hird
On 25 Dec 2008, at 19:43, comex wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I preemptively object to all dependent actions attempted between now and Dec. 31, 2012. I CFJ on the following: {{ It is possible for a private contract to create an ability of one party to act on

DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-25 Thread comex
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I preemptively object to all dependent actions attempted between now > and Dec. 31, 2012. > > I CFJ on the following: > {{ > It is possible for a private contract to create an ability of one > party to act on behalf of another party. > }} T

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-25 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Dec 23, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 24 Dec 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:00, Kerim Aydin wrote: 2. Having received no Objections, I ratify the following report with a scope of the SLR: I see "win and fix" is a long-forgotten mantra. I should expla

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Goethe wrote: > >> [Murphy, I told you we should have specifically disabled dependent actions >> altogether for the duration... :) Though I guess you didn't disagree... >> looks like a fun two weeks to wait for the CFJs] > > Is there any remaining ambiguity

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-24 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > On 24 Dec 2008, at 17:25, comex wrote: > >> You retracted it. > > Not that I recall. http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2317

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-24 Thread Elliott Hird
On 24 Dec 2008, at 17:25, comex wrote: You retracted it. Not that I recall.

DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-24 Thread comex
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: > CoE: I have an outstanding objection to everything, maybe You retracted it.

DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 19:14 -0500, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I preemptively object to all dependent actions attempted between now > and Dec. 31, 2012. Note that ehird had a standing preemptive objection. If the other preemptive objections work, so did this one, and Goethe's scam failed all along. (No

DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: > > On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:00, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> 2. Having received no Objections, I ratify the following report with a >> scope of the SLR: > > CoE: I have an outstanding objection to everything, maybe You withdrew it, almost certainly.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > I personally didn't believe it possible without legislation, but then > I found Zefram's judgement in CFJ 1719 to be extraordinarily thorough To save a lookup, this was the CFJ that found that Peekee's "anyone can send e-mail on my behalf via an unprotected web form" worked. > an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > [Murphy, I told you we should have specifically disabled dependent actions > altogether for the duration... :) Though I guess you didn't disagree... > looks like a fun two weeks to wait for the CFJs] Is there any remaining ambiguity that would warrant violating the prohibition

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Didn't we figure this particular one out back in that first CFJ >> on whether this was possible? -G. > > CFJs can be decided wrongly. It's not in the best interests of the > game for players to a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Didn't we figure this particular one out back in that first CFJ > on whether this was possible? -G. CFJs can be decided wrongly. It's not in the best interests of the game for players to act on behalf of others using a mechanism that recordk

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread comex
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > If some Rule requires that an action be done prior to a given > time, and that given time falls during a Holiday, or within the > 72-hour period immediately following that Holiday, then that > action need not be done until 72

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > My suggestion: holidays: The time between Dec 24 and Jan 2 Just Does > Not Exist. Anything happening during that time is deemed to happen > on Jan 3 (though in the order it was sent over the holidays), and > for duration-based-spells, er, rules, that time is just subtracted out

DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, comex wrote: > I claim that this works because (a) preemptive objections don't work, > and (b) I am not allowed to make arbitrary rule changes by > announcement, merely to cause Rule 9843 to do so, so any restrictions > imposed by Rule 9842 do not apply. But did the ratificat

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:00, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> 2. Having received no Objections, I ratify the following report with a >> scope of the SLR: > > I see "win and fix" is a long-forgotten mantra. I should explain that. holiday timing is an annual screwup

DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I preemptively object to all dependent actions attempted between now > and Dec. 31, 2012. > > I CFJ on the following: > {{ > It is possible for a private contract to create an ability of one > party to act on behalf of another party. > }} Didn't we fig

DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread Elliott Hird
On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:00, Kerim Aydin wrote: 2. Having received no Objections, I ratify the following report with a scope of the SLR: I see "win and fix" is a long-forgotten mantra.