DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-10-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I withdraw my support. Cite R478 instead, and I'll reinstate it. I withdraw my intent to initiate a criminal CFJ.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-10-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:57 AM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 11:55 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> I intend, with 2 support, to initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that >> tusho violated Rule 101 by kicking me out of the #really-a-cow >> channel. > E kicked out someone wit

DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-10-07 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 11:55 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I intend, with 2 support, to initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that > tusho violated Rule 101 by kicking me out of the #really-a-cow > channel. E kicked out someone with the nick 'tusho'. Also, is it possible to violate rule 101? -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Josiah Worcester wrote: >> PS. For those of you suggesting the use of R101, I thought y'all decided >> in opposition to its original intent, that the Rules weren't an agreement >> for the purposes of R101(v). Can't have it both ways... > > *I* think that that judgement was mi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Josiah Worcester wrote: >> My point being, if e broke a Rule e should be convicted of it, but surely >> showing such Agoran Spirit(tm) is not worthy of a sentence of exile. > > I cited the rule he broke. I know you did. And e should be found GUILTY if appropriate. I was dis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Josiah Worcester
On 18:12 Thu 07 Feb , Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, comex wrote: > > Hmm. Here is the rule at the time of CFJ 1314 > > Any communication which has been sent via a Public Forum shall > > be considered to have been made publicly. > > Same wording. The only difference is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 8:48 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: R478 defined a message as public if it is sent *via* the public forum, or sent *to* all players separately. Something that is sent *to* the PF, but rejected by the software, is not sent *via* the PF to anyone at all, s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, comex wrote: > Hmm. Here is the rule at the time of CFJ 1314 > Any communication which has been sent via a Public Forum shall > be considered to have been made publicly. > Same wording. The only difference is that while in that case the list > moderator got it, here

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Josiah Worcester
On 17:54 Thu 07 Feb , Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tu, 7 Feb 2008, Josiah Worcester wrote: > > When comex intended to ratify his Full Logical Ruleset, rule did > > not, at the time, exist. > > > > I recommend EXILE. > > You know, at least once someone ran a contest to actually *award* whoev

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread comex
On Feb 7, 2008 8:48 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > R478 defined a message as public if it is sent *via* the public forum, > or sent *to* all players separately. Something that is sent *to* the PF, > but rejected by the software, is not sent *via* the PF to anyone at all, > so is not

DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tu, 7 Feb 2008, Josiah Worcester wrote: > When comex intended to ratify his Full Logical Ruleset, rule did > not, at the time, exist. > > I recommend EXILE. You know, at least once someone ran a contest to actually *award* whoever came up with the best scam during Read The Ruleset Week.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Because it didn't clearly demonstrate intent to submit a proposal. I > think self-ratification can only be defused by finding that the message > wasn't sent to the PF, thus wasn't public, thus is not a candidate for ^^ Welcome to Read the Rule

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: >I have to stick up for comex here. E sent it. That's what's required. >The filter is outside of eir control, I've had long messages stuck there >in the past, while those messages are still messages by the Rules. E did send the *second* message to the PF (presuming that e's be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 4:02 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Zefram wrote: As e didn't expect that message to be distributed, e wasn't sending it to the PF, so eir lie was not public. I have to stick up for comex here. E sent it. That's what's required. The

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Feb 7, 2008 4:02 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Zefram wrote: > > As e didn't expect that message to be distributed, e wasn't sending it > > to the PF, so eir lie was not public. > > I have to stick up for comex here. E sent it. That's what's required. > The

DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Zefram wrote: > As e didn't expect that message to be distributed, e wasn't sending it > to the PF, so eir lie was not public. I have to stick up for comex here. E sent it. That's what's required. The filter is outside of eir control, I've had long messages stuck there in th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread Josiah Worcester
On 17:56 Thu 07 Feb , comex wrote: > On Feb 7, 2008 5:53 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hereby initiate a criminal CFJ: > > Defendant: comex > > Rule violated: Rule 2149/8, Truthfulness > > Action: Falsely claiming that there exists a rule > > Making false statement

DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2008-02-07 Thread comex
On Feb 7, 2008 5:53 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hereby initiate a criminal CFJ: > Defendant: comex > Rule violated: Rule 2149/8, Truthfulness > Action: Falsely claiming that there exists a rule Making false statements is not proscribed by Rule 2149.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2007-11-28 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Nov 28, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Taral wrote: On 11/28/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Argh! With this criminal system the punishments are too lenient. I suggest repealing UNAWARE and EXCUSED, and requiring a minimum sentence of CHOKEY! Perhaps we should add EXTERMINATE. That's always a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2007-11-28 Thread Taral
On 11/28/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Argh! With this criminal system the punishments are too lenient. I > suggest repealing UNAWARE and EXCUSED, and requiring a minimum > sentence of CHOKEY! Perhaps we should add EXTERMINATE. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2007-11-28 Thread comex
On Nov 28, 2007 9:24 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, so this is why we still need UNAWARE. Thanks! Argh! With this criminal system the punishments are too lenient. I suggest repealing UNAWARE and EXCUSED, and requiring a minimum sentence of CHOKEY!

DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2007-11-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Nov 28, 2007 7:16 PM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I guess after CFJ's 1801 and 1802 it makes sense to do this. > > I initiate a criminal case. > > The defendant is pikhq > > The rule breached is 2172 > > The action is attempting to register Agora as a B Nomic faction without

DIS: Re: BUS: Criminal CFJ

2007-11-28 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Wednesday 28 November 2007 19:16:11 Levi Stephen wrote: > Well, I guess after CFJ's 1801 and 1802 it makes sense to do this. > > I initiate a criminal case. > > The defendant is pikhq > > The rule breached is 2172 > > The action is attempting to register Agora as a B Nomic faction without A