DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-28 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:28 -0400, Ben Caplan wrote: > On Friday 25 July 2008 06:39:35 pm Sgeo wrote: > > I object. Players joining the Vote Market for the first time are > > automatically in violation with this. > > Yikes. > > I object. Good catch. I won't activate that change now. I still like

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-26 Thread ihope
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ivan Hope wrote: > >> I agree to the following: {This is a pledge. Ivan Hope CXXVII can >> leave this contract by announcement. The Beast is a fixed asset. Ivan >> Hope CXXVII can cause it to be owned by anyone by announcement.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-26 Thread Ed Murphy
Ivan Hope wrote: > I agree to the following: {This is a pledge. Ivan Hope CXXVII can > leave this contract by announcement. The Beast is a fixed asset. Ivan > Hope CXXVII can cause it to be owned by anyone by announcement.} > > I cause The Beast to be owned by Elliott Hird. (Precedent is that you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-26 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/26 Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Irrelevant. You can possess a contract-defined asset without > belonging to that contract (I possess some chits, for instance). > > Ah, true. This means that contracts can affect non-parties. Creepy...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-25 Thread Ed Murphy
tusho wrote: > 2008/7/25 Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Such language! > > Sorry. Was agitated IRL when typing. > >> A player joining will have zero VP. Not undefined, zero. > > I disagree. They're not bound by the contract defining VP. Irrelevant. You can possess a contract-defined asset with

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-25 Thread ihope
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I cfj on the following statement "If an entity is not elgible to own a > particular type of asset, then they own zero of that asset" > > I argue true, though ehird seems to thing otherwise. No need to CFJ on it, in my opinion. Th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-25 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26/07/2008, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I disagree. They're not bound by the contract defining VP. > > But once they join, they are bound by it, and their holdings are > defined at that point. Once they join - so they'll have had it for 0 days. > How about adding a provision

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-25 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jul 25, 2008, at 7:12 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: A player joining will have zero VP. Not undefined, zero. I disagree. They're not bound by the contract defining VP. But once they join, they are bound by it, and their holdings are defined at that point. How about adding a provision that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/25 Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Such language! Sorry. Was agitated IRL when typing. > A player joining will have zero VP. Not undefined, zero. I disagree. They're not bound by the contract defining VP. tusho

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-25 Thread Taral
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bullcrap. They don't HAVE a quantity of VP. Such language! A player joining will have zero VP. Not undefined, zero. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unkn

DIS: Re: BUS: Closing the Vote Market Insurance loophole

2008-07-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/7/25 Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I object. Players joining the Vote Market for the first time are > automatically in violation with this. > Bullcrap. They don't HAVE a quantity of VP.