Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Campaign Proposals are Official Proposals, so they don't need manual pending. Thanks. I read the rules on the subject and came away uncertain; pending both of my campaign proposals was cheap and reliable. -o signature.asc Description:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

The one thing I like least about agora's current high activity is there's always one person who answered your question just slightly before you, and one just slightly after. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:4

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:47 PM Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 02:40 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Campaign Proposals are Official Proposals, so they don't need manual > > pending. > > If you decide to pay the shinies to pend one even though it's already > pending, does it then pay out

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

The text of the rules has this to say: "Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, an Official proposal is always pending. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, players CANNOT claim rewards for the adoption of an Off

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On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:47 Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 02:40 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Campaign Proposals are Official Proposals, so they don't need manual > > pending. > > If you decide to pay the shinies to pend one even though it's already > pending, does it then pay out sh

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On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 02:40 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Campaign Proposals are Official Proposals, so they don't need manual > pending. If you decide to pay the shinies to pend one even though it's already pending, does it then pay out shinies if it passes? -- ais523

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Campaign Proposals are Official Proposals, so they don't need manual pending. On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:38 Owen Jacobson wrote: > I stand for election. > > I submit the following campaign proposal, and pend it by paying Agora 1 > shiny. > > Title: Farm No More > AI: 2 > Author: o > > Rep

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

I initiate and stand for the Agronomist election (to avoid it all getting repealed). My campaign proposal is as follows. Title: Agronomist-Surveyor Combination Author: VJ Rada Text: Repeal rule 2504 "The Agronomist". Amend rule 2488 "The Surveyor" by adding the text at the end "The Surveyor's week

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Er, which election? On Wed, 25 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > I initiate and stand for the election. My campaign proposal is as follows. > > Title: Agronomist-Surveyor Combination > Author: VJ Rada > Text: Repeal rule 2504 "The Agronomist". Amend rule 2488 "The > Surveyor" by adding the text at the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

Ineffective, you did not become a candidate. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 05:49 VJ Rada, wrote: > I do so. > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > I support as well. > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 03:13 Owen Jacobson, wrote: > >> > >> > >> > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:12 AM, VJ Rada

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I support as well. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 03:13 Owen Jacobson, wrote: > > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:12 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > > > Yep. I intend to, with two support, initiate an Agronomist election > > (the position is interim). > > I support. > > >

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On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: I straight-up resign. If it is possible for me to do so, I initiate an election for the office of Agronomist. I submit the following as a campaign proposal: I think the first action made the second impossible. Greetings, Ørjan.

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I believe the report is overdue though, traditionally, we are lax on officers > who take over midweek. In an old system, we had a strong precedent or rule (can't remember) that you can't ding an officer for missing something in eir first objection perio

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I believe the report is overdue though, traditionally, we are lax on officers who take over midweek. Note that the new rules regarding your report mean you'll likely need to go through some mailing list history to pick up the date that elections ended for each office. On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 21:09

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oh. I wasn't sure whether or not "I ratify the below document, which is: {Just now, ATMunn won an election for ADoP. Just now, Alexis won an election for Prime Minister}." actually meant that I hold ADoP and Alexis holds PM. I guess I should have figured that out, however, since Alexis's vote count

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I agree with this and have written o, asking em, if e needed interim help. On 10/22/2017 07:49 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> By the by, I forgot o. is also the agronomist. I intend to deputize >> for the position to publish its weekly report. > I have to say, o

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Fair enough on that last point - I shouldn't talk I grabbed Herald from PSS last month for the same reasons (i.e. I needed the cash). On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > It is 4 and 14 days, isn't it? That still gives em 3 to 4 days, if I > prepare a report immediately after I'm allowed, which

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Yeah, lost and gone. I also just lost superintendent and PM rip. Bad two days. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > E already did. You're the ADoP now! > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 19:57 ATMunn . wrote: >> >> That's true. I think I'd agree on that, especially for you, since you'l

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Especially given that e is the Referee and the Secretary, which are VERY important to publish each week, given the 7-day statute of limitations and the Floating Value (and general effects of economic uncertainty). I feel little guilt, honestly, and now that we have excellent electoral systems I'm s

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E already did. You're the ADoP now! On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 19:57 ATMunn . wrote: > That's true. I think I'd agree on that, especially for you, since you'll > soon lose ADoP. > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 7:54 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > >> It is 4 and 14 days, isn't it? That still gives em 3 to 4 days,

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That's true. I think I'd agree on that, especially for you, since you'll soon lose ADoP. On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 7:54 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > It is 4 and 14 days, isn't it? That still gives em 3 to 4 days, if I > prepare a report immediately after I'm allowed, which I doubt. > > I don't deny o's go

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It is 4 and 14 days, isn't it? That still gives em 3 to 4 days, if I prepare a report immediately after I'm allowed, which I doubt. I don't deny o's good officerlyness, I have complimented em on it many times. Having said that, e is also the richest Agoran, a holder of 5 offices currently. It seem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

Agronomy in Agora can still go a long way, and I don't think it should be repealed. At most, it needs to be reworked. The sentiment among Agorans is that we need a more player-centric economy, so that shinies can trade hands between players rather than between Agora and a player. On 10/22/2017

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > By the by, I forgot o. is also the agronomist. I intend to deputize > for the position to publish its weekly report. I have to say, o has been a conscientious and hard-working Officer that hasn't missed deadlines generally - it seems churlish to grab offices

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No I love the buying and selling of voting power idea there. If we maybe made it cheaper and easier to understand, and increased the number of Estates perhaps, it would maybe work. Problem, of course, is buy-in. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, VJ Ra

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > We should probably just repeal Agronomy? It's a really complicated > modification of five things that creates so many empty reports that > the reportor forgot to publish them until last week. And the person > whose idea it was left immediately after coming up

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>From now on, I will "create the following and spend a shiny to pend it" On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:42 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > Also, "create and spend a shiny to pend the following" implies that you're > creating a shiny, and then spending it, which is IMPOSSIBLE. > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 5:53 P

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On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Contracts passed, and was enacted unless my CFJ turns out true (G., any > likelihood > of expediting that one and possibly linking it with my previous one about the > Promotor's report?) Might not be today, but should get it out by tomorrow. But I

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Also, "create and spend a shiny to pend the following" implies that you're creating a shiny, and then spending it, which is IMPOSSIBLE. On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think you mean pend, not spend. > > -Aris > > On Sun, Oct 22, 201

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On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > The regkeepor should be monthly not weekly - if you want a sinecure > > it's that - a completely empty weekly report for the last two months. > > The Regkeepor has been diligently doing e

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Did it? OK, fair enough. We should probably just repeal Agronomy? It's a really complicated modification of five things that creates so many empty reports that the reportor forgot to publish them until last week. And the person whose idea it was left immediately after coming up with it. On Mon, O

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Contracts passed, and was enacted unless my CFJ turns out true (G., any likelihood of expediting that one and possibly linking it with my previous one about the Promotor's report?) On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 19:36 VJ Rada wrote: > Superintendent still exists and Secretary does pending Contracts > act

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On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > The regkeepor should be monthly not weekly - if you want a sinecure > it's that - a completely empty weekly report for the last two months. The Regkeepor has been diligently doing eir work unpaid, except for those weeks in which e forgets

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Superintendent still exists and Secretary does pending Contracts actually passing, of course. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 19:32 Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >> The regkeepor should be monthly not weekly - if you want a sinecure >> it's that - a co

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On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 19:32 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > The regkeepor should be monthly not weekly - if you want a sinecure > it's that - a completely empty weekly report for the last two months. > > We just repealed organizations, right? So that's the Secretary gone. > Superintendent is gone now

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The regkeepor should be monthly not weekly - if you want a sinecure it's that - a completely empty weekly report for the last two months. We just repealed organizations, right? So that's the Secretary gone. I thought for a while that the Herald and Tailor should be merged, but now with Karma

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So make a length or substance requirement or something. Our current reportor is doing quite an excellent job. Also, offices aren't bad so long as they do _something_. This one tells people what's going on in an interesting way, and provides an archive for future generations of Agorans [1]. [1] htt

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It's literally a complete sinecure. We have 20 offices now, I think. And 20 players. It seems like pruning non-essential offices is sorely needed, and this one is the least essential possible. While all the other offices have a report containing information, this office is just "make a report!" "wi

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I concur. We finally have an active reportor, now is not the time to repeal the newspaper. -Aris On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > Why though? Even if it isn't an entirely useful of the game, I still enjoy > reading the newspaper every week. > > On 10/22/2017 3:52 PM, VJ Ra

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

Why though? Even if it isn't an entirely useful of the game, I still enjoy reading the newspaper every week. On 10/22/2017 3:52 PM, VJ Rada wrote: I create and spend a shiny to spend the following Name: Repeal the Reportor AI: 1 Author: me Text: Repeal rule 2446 "The Agoran Newspaper" -- Tri

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At least let me do the things I want to do with the office that I've held off doing since I wanted to wait until Contracts was out. 天火狐 On 22 October 2017 at 17:55, VJ Rada wrote: > I _spend_ a shiny to _pend_ "Repeal the Reportor" > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: >

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I think you mean pend, not spend. -Aris On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 2:52 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I create and spend a shiny to spend the following > Name: Repeal the Reportor > AI: 1 > Author: me > Text: Repeal rule 2446 "The Agoran Newspaper" > > -- > From V.J. Rada