Re: DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 2/16/2019 12:36 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Unless the rules explicitly say “the contract > can’t punish someone for X”, he meaning of a statement on the part of the > rules that a person can’t be considered bound to a contract is that the > rules won’t consider them bound. If Telnaior's prop

Re: DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread Aris Merchant
That got sent before I had a chance to proofread it; my apologies for the embarrassingly large number of spelling mistakes. -Aris On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 12:36 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think that’s incorrect. Unless the rules explicitly say “the contract

Re: DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread Aris Merchant
I think that’s incorrect. Unless the rules explicitly say “the contract can’t punish someone for X”, he meaning of a statement on the part of the rules that a person can’t be considered bound to a contract is that the rules won’t consider them bound. Contracts can have their own subjective opinions

Re: DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 2/16/2019 12:11 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: We could use a deposit system like when you deposit for rent. Oh I think D. Margaux's fix does the job; I was responding to Aris's more general statement that "under long-standing contract construction rules, contracts can pretend that they can do rul

Re: DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread Cuddle Beam
We could use a deposit system like when you deposit for rent. On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 9:08 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Aris, > > The more I think about it, the more I think that a judge should throw it > out. Contracts are made under the intent that they are binding under the > rules. If a rule

Re: DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
Aris, The more I think about it, the more I think that a judge should throw it out. Contracts are made under the intent that they are binding under the rules. If a rule specifically says that a contract can't do X, the parties to the contract have agreed that the rules say the contract doesn'

Re: DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
Well, it's unclear to me if a judge would say "that office works just like you would expect except the ADoP doesn't have to track it" or "contracts can't do that, so those clauses are void". IMO it's just worth a little precaution with an easily-added clause (eg. when contracts didn't have min

Re: DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread Aris Merchant
I believe that under long-standing contract construction rules, contracts can pretend that they can do rule things even if the rules don’t think so. The effect is that the contract behaves as closely as possible to the way in which it would were it a rule. -Aris On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 10:24 AM K

Re: DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread Cuddle Beam
I'm interested👌 On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 7:26 PM D. Margaux wrote: > Thanks—if there’s any interest in this, we can fix that for sure. > > > On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > I think the proposed fix to Telnaior's scam includes an amendment such > that > > offices can

Re: DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread D. Margaux
Thanks—if there’s any interest in this, we can fix that for sure. > On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I think the proposed fix to Telnaior's scam includes an amendment such that > offices can only be defined by the Rules. > >> On 2/16/2019 10:15 AM, D. Margaux wrote: >> We

Re: DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
I think the proposed fix to Telnaior's scam includes an amendment such that offices can only be defined by the Rules. On 2/16/2019 10:15 AM, D. Margaux wrote: We must ensure that the Ritual is appeased. I therefore humbly submit to the Agoran public this proto contract: /// This contract is

DIS: Church of Ritual

2019-02-16 Thread D. Margaux
We must ensure that the Ritual is appeased. I therefore humbly submit to the Agoran public this proto contract: /// This contract is to be known as The Church of The Ritual. Parties to the contract are the faithful; nonparties are heathens. A player can become faithful by announcement upon tra