Re: DIS: Agora XX: 13th and final report

2013-06-30 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I'd say the coalition had its seeds in my first message to Steve, passing on the Agora XX invitation. Our first question was "how are we going to win this?" I'd like to echo my thanks to all involved. Good times. Malcolm On 01/07/2013, at 3:14 AM, Fool wrote: > I've hosted and played in non-No

Re: DIS: Agora XX: 13th and final report

2013-06-30 Thread Malcolm Ryan
Yes, I should be available at that time. Blob On 01/07/2013, at 12:02 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > On 30 June 2013 14:48, Steven Gardner wrote: >> For my part, 9pm local time (1100 UTC), after the kids are in bed, is when >> I'm more likely to have time to chat. >> >> But tomorrow (Monday) nigh

Re: DIS: Agora XX: 11th report

2013-06-28 Thread Malcolm Ryan
If I am to be hoisted, it will be *with* my petard, not by it. For ’tis the sport to have the engineer Hoist with his own petard: -- Hamlet Act III, Scene IV Blob (exploding pedant) On 29/06/2013, at 10:18 AM, Fool wrote: > On 28/06/2013 7:43 PM, Steven Gardner wrote: >> Firstly, I think yo

Re: DIS: Re: Boo!

2013-06-28 Thread Malcolm Ryan
Ørjan, hello! Blob On 29/06/2013, at 12:50 AM, "Chuck Carroll" wrote: > Hi! > > -Original Message- > From: agora-discussion [mailto:agora-discussion-boun...@agoranomic.org] On > Behalf Of Ørjan Johansen > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:58 AM > To: Agora Discussion List > Subject: DIS: B

Re: DIS: Agora XX: 11th report

2013-06-27 Thread Malcolm Ryan
Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Malcolm Ryan wrote: >>> Aand we return to the old Platonic vs Pragmatic debate. >> >> that has plagued Agora for a looong time... > > Oh, and remind me next year to come up with a Drinking Game for > observer

Re: DIS: Agora XX: 11th report

2013-06-27 Thread Malcolm Ryan
Aand we return to the old Platonic vs Pragmatic debate. Blob (staying low) On 28/06/2013, at 11:06 AM, Fool wrote: > On 27/06/2013 8:55 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> Of course, this raises the age old question of whether, if e does an >> "illegal" thing, whether it actually fails (since we h

Re: DIS: Agora XX: 11th report

2013-06-27 Thread Malcolm Ryan
Oh, Goethe has already CFJ'ed this. Oops. Blob (on the lam) On 28/06/2013, at 10:19 AM, Malcolm Ryan wrote: > I call for judgment on the following statement: > > "At the 12:16am GMT on June 28 2013, Blob had not forfeited." > > Reasoning: The rules make it clear

Re: DIS: Agora XX: 11th report

2013-06-27 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I call for judgment on the following statement: "At the 12:16am GMT on June 28 2013, Blob had not forfeited." Reasoning: The rules make it clear that forfeiting is a voluntary player action. Rule 345 says a player "must" forfeit. It does not say that they "are deemed to have forfeited". Blob

Re: DIS: Agora XX: 11th report

2013-06-27 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I call for judgement on the following statement. "Blob does not have to forfeit under rule 345." Reasoning: Rule 345 says "If a player proposes a rule change that is not adopted..." I made proposal 346 BEFORE this rule came into effect. Rule 108 forbids retroactive application. Blob On 27/06

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-346

2013-06-26 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I used the word "forfeit" because it is already used in rule 113. Blob On 26/06/2013, at 11:20 PM, Michael Norrish wrote: > I vote AGAINST 345 and 346 (what does forfeit mean, and does it prevent > reregistration?) > > I vote FOR 344. > > Michael > > > On 26/06/13 10:00 PM, Fool wrote: >> He

Re: DIS: Agora Degree

2013-06-26 Thread Malcolm Ryan
ow I teach game design and run the games lab at my university, and my Agora experience was actually a great stepping stone to my current position. I'd love to include an Agoran degree on my resumé. Malcolm On 26/06/2013, at 8:20 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 20:13 +1

DIS: Agora Degree

2013-06-26 Thread Malcolm Ryan
By the way, while I'm here I've been meaning to come back to Agora sometime to get my Doctor of Nomic. Do you still have degrees? What do I have to do to be awarded one? Malcolm

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-26 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I vote FOR. M On 25/06/2013, at 12:11 AM, Steven Gardner wrote: > I vote for this Proposal. > > On 25 June 2013 00:10, Steven Gardner wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Enact a new Rule which reads: > > Within 24 hours of this Rule being enacted, the Speaker shall publish the >

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Stop dicking with 311

2013-06-26 Thread Malcolm Ryan
Ah nuts. M On 26/06/2013, at 6:59 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > On 26 Jun 2013, at 04:57, Malcolm Ryan wrote: > >> I propose that a rule be enacted reading: >> >> "Any player who proposes to amend, renumber or repeal rule 311 is deemed to >> have forfeite

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Malcolm Ryan
You youngsters got no guts. In my day we played fer KEEPS. M On 26/06/2013, at 1:37 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Malcolm Ryan > wrote: >> Let's make this interesting. >> >> I propose that a rule be enacted reading: >> >

DIS: Agora XX: Stop dicking with 311

2013-06-25 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I propose that a rule be enacted reading: "Any player who proposes to amend, renumber or repeal rule 311 is deemed to have forfeited the game." I vote FOR this. M

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Malcolm Ryan
Naturally, I vote FOR this. On 26/06/2013, at 1:33 PM, Malcolm Ryan wrote: > Let's make this interesting. > > I propose that a rule be enacted reading: > > "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its > voting period, that player must

DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Malcolm Ryan
Let's make this interesting. I propose that a rule be enacted reading: "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its voting period, that player must immediately forfeit the game." M

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposals 342-343

2013-06-25 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I vote FOR both of these. M On 26/06/2013, at 10:56 AM, Fool wrote: > Here I'll just number and repeat the two new proposals. Voting closes > in 24 hours. Voting on 331-341 closes in about 11 hours. > > -Dan > > 342 (Chuck): >> I propose that rule 311 be amended by changing the text which read

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I disagree. There is no such thing as a "proposal" only a "proposed rule change". I put it that this is a shorthand way of making 38 proposed rule changes. Malcolm On 23/06/2013, at 12:17 AM, Fool wrote: > On 22/06/2013 9:45 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: >> I propose that all rules be transmuted to

Re: DIS: Count me in

2013-06-25 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I'm late to the party, but better late than never. I register for Agora XX. Malcolm (aka Blob)