Re: DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments draft

2020-06-25 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 7:48 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/2020 4:40 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> Auction regulations are regulations defined by this rule, all of which >> comprise a single body of law, and for which the Treasuror is the >> promulgator. The scope of auct

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments draft

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/25/2020 4:40 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > Auction regulations are regulations defined by this rule, all of which > comprise a single body of law, and for which the Treasuror is the > promulgator. The scope of auction regulations is wholly restricted to > defining specific auc

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments draft

2020-06-25 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 7:46 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/20 7:40 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> Amend Rule 2464 by replacing the final sentence of the final paragraph >> with the following: >> >> { >> >> Each Tournament's regulations comprise a body o

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments draft

2020-06-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 7:40 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > Amend Rule 2464 by replacing the final sentence of the final paragraph > with the following: > > { > > Each Tournament's regulations comprise a body of law. The scope of each > such body of law is wholly restricted to governing the play

DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments draft

2020-06-25 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
This is a draft of Regulatory Instruments, which was originally submitted as a proposal, but had a few bugs. I'm submitting it here as a draft for any further feedback. Title: Regulatory Instruments v2 Author: Jason Coauthors: Aris Adoption index: 3.0 { [The purpose of this proposal is to expa

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3858 assigned to ATMunn

2020-06-25 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
last I checked, I'm not grok... though I am kind of glad this wasn't actually assigned to me, I'm not sure how well I would be able to judge this one. then again, that tends to be true of CFJs in general so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (not saying I don't want them to be assigned to me, the more I judge the be

DIS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3858 assigned to ATMunn

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
oh, crud. I copy and pasted and forgot to change "grok" to "ATMunn". There's actually a couple precedents that the assignment in the message worked, not the subject line. So I guess these are "linked" with grok as judge (unless e recuses emself from one). Sorry about that! On 6/25/2020 3:24

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 3:33 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:12 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: >> Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while >> Emergency Regulations require 3, so the easiest option is a Free >> Tournament that automatically gr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 4:33 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:12 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: >> Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while >> Emergency Regulations require 3, so the easiest option is a Free >> Tournament that automatically gr

DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:12 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while > Emergency Regulations require 3, so the easiest option is a Free > Tournament that automatically grants a certain person the win. 3 Agoran Consent is hard bu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:36 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/25/20 2:35 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:16 PM nch via agora-discussion > > > > wrote: > > > > On 6/25/20 2:11 P

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 2:35 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:16 PM nch via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > On 6/25/20 2:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:16 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/25/20 2:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while > > Emergency Regulations require 3, so the easiest option is a Free

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 6/25/2020 3:21 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:18 PM ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: Quick question - what even is the scam? I just woke up one day to find out that there were a ton of messages and a few people we

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 2:18 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/20 2:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> It is no secret that we wish to prevent the exile scam from working, >> granting three players wins and resetting our economy. > Also, our side has already proposed and supported a way

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:18 PM ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Quick question - what even is the scam? I just woke up one day to find > out that there were a ton of messages and a few people were performing > weird actions and people said it was a scam. I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 3:15 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/20 2:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while >> Emergency Regulations require 3, so the easiest option is a Free >> Tournament that automatically grants a certain p

DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
Quick question - what even is the scam? I just woke up one day to find out that there were a ton of messages and a few people were performing weird actions and people said it was a scam. I figured nobody knew how it worked except the people performing it, but it appears that that isn't the case

DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 2:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > It is no secret that we wish to prevent the exile scam from working, > granting three players wins and resetting our economy. Also, our side has already proposed and supported a way to avoid resetting the economy when the win goes through

DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 2:11 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > Free Tournaments require only 2 Agoran consent to initiate, while > Emergency Regulations require 3, so the easiest option is a Free > Tournament that automatically grants a certain person the win. However, > this intent is also vetoable by

Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/25/2020 11:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 17:03, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/25/2020 9:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion >>> wrote: On 6/24/2020

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Second draft of auction regulations

2020-06-25 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 2:44 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-06-24 16:23, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/24/20 6:09 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: >>> * Sealed-bid auctions do not end when bidding is closed. Instead, they >>> end four days afterward. >>

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Second draft of auction regulations

2020-06-25 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-24 16:23, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/24/20 6:09 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: * Sealed-bid auctions do not end when bidding is closed. Instead, they end four days afterward. If you want to override when the auction ends in a specific method, you

Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-25 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 17:03, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/2020 9:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > > wrote: > >> On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > >>> Bump. Here's a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Talismans Auction Patch

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/25/2020 11:16 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-06-25 10:41, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/25/20 12:39 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via >> agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 6/25/20 12:37 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: This also mean

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Congratulations !! You Just WON !!!

2020-06-25 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-23 18:08, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: Worth a shot. I thought maybe sending it to all players (because that can count as a public action) would work a bit better, since that would subvert people's filters to not send Agoran messages to spam. But alas, P.S.S. is smarter than t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Talismans Auction Patch

2020-06-25 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-25 10:41, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/25/20 12:39 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/25/20 12:37 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: This also means the Registrar rather than the Treasuror is in charge of figuring out how zombi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Talismans Auction Patch

2020-06-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 12:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 16:39, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/25/20 12:37 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:05, Jason Cobb via agora-business >>> wrote:

Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/25/2020 9:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month >>> restriction. G., wh

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Talismans Auction Patch

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/25/2020 9:41 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > The Registrar wouldn't need to write any regulations, e would just need > to pick a method that the Treasuror has defined in the auction regulations. > I think the auctioneer is free to point to any method that follows the guideline

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Talismans Auction Patch

2020-06-25 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 16:39, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/20 12:37 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:05, Jason Cobb via agora-business > > wrote: > >> I submit the following proposal: > >> > >> Title: Talismans aucti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Talismans Auction Patch

2020-06-25 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 12:39 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/20 12:37 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:05, Jason Cobb via agora-business >> wrote: >>> I submit the following proposal: >>> >>> Title: Talismans auction patch >>> >>

Re: [Attn. R. Lee] Re: DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora

2020-06-25 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 15:45, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/20 10:43 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > > The Discord invite link no longer works. It probably expired; Discord > > invites expire after a week or 3 days or something by default. > > > > On 6/24/2020 11:20 PM, James

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Talismans Auction Patch

2020-06-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 12:37 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:05, Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: >> I submit the following proposal: >> >> Title: Talismans auction patch >> >> Author: Jason >> >> Coauthors: Trigon >> >> Adoption index: 2.0 >> >> { >> >> Amend Rule

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Talismans Auction Patch

2020-06-25 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:05, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Title: Talismans auction patch > > Author: Jason > > Coauthors: Trigon > > Adoption index: 2.0 > > { > > Amend Rule 1885 by deleting the sentence beginning "The method to be > used for this au

Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-25 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month > > restriction. G., what do you think about submitting this before nch's > > and R. Lee's

DIS: Re: OFF: Report Routing

2020-06-25 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 04:40, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: > I would prefer for Reportor reports to be sent to OFF, even in the absence > of a rule making the Reportor an office. People often read OFF to get a > summary of game affairs at a given time. The Reportor's entries are > astou

Re: [Attn. R. Lee] Re: DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 10:43 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: > The Discord invite link no longer works. It probably expired; Discord > invites expire after a week or 3 days or something by default. > > On 6/24/2020 11:20 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >> https://discord.gg/UGxm3v --- Agora

[Attn. R. Lee] Re: DIS: [Reportor] Last Week in Agora

2020-06-25 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
The Discord invite link no longer works. It probably expired; Discord invites expire after a week or 3 days or something by default. On 6/24/2020 11:20 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: https://discord.gg/UGxm3v --- Agora suddenly has an unofficial Discord server. This happened when a

DIS: Re: OFF: Report Routing

2020-06-25 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
I agree. I don't usually read the individual lists separately, but I see the value in it being sent to OFF. On 6/25/2020 12:39 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: I would prefer for Reportor reports to be sent to OFF, even in the absence of a rule making the Reportor an office. People o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: general objection

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/24/20 9:51 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > > >> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business >> wrote: >> >> >> I object to any and all intents to declare apathy. > But does this adequately identify the intents being objected to? > > (I think there might have been a CFJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: general objection

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/24/2020 7:51 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: >> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >> >> >> I object to any and all intents to declare apathy. > > But does this adequately identify the intents being objected to? > > (I think there might have been a CFJ a

Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month > restriction. G., what do you think about submitting this before nch's > and R. Lee's possible victory? I'm happy to pend it (assuming > DracoLotto worked as inten