Re: DIS: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread David Nicol
Initially, (1994?) Nomic World was a MUD, before MUDs started getting called MOOs. Synchronous communication was difficult with players from lots of different time zones, and voting was done with some persistent game objects. A lot of serious discussion actually happened by e-mail because otherwise

Re: DIS: What counts as a scam?

2017-12-23 Thread Edward Murphy
Aris wrote: We should probably bring that rule back. It sounds useful/interesting. I don't remember the number, but it went something like: * If a person CAN do X by announcement, then e CAN do it With Support, Without Objection, or With Agoran Consent. * If a person CAN do X With N

Re: DIS: What counts as a scam?

2017-12-23 Thread Aris Merchant
On Dec 23, 2017 7:33 PM, "Edward Murphy" wrote: ais523 wrote: (Note that what counts as a scam is based on a surface reading of a > rule, not on the intent of the rule; it's not unheard of for people to > create rules which are intended to be scammed, either by them or just > in general. Rules l

Re: DIS: What counts as a scam?

2017-12-23 Thread Edward Murphy
ais523 wrote: (Note that what counts as a scam is based on a surface reading of a rule, not on the intent of the rule; it's not unheard of for people to create rules which are intended to be scammed, either by them or just in general. Rules like the induction rule – which let people perform acti

Re: DIS: Re: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread VJ Rada
I think it might be a forum on something free like zetaboards. Or a subreddit, yeah. On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 1:19 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > To add to this, if Agora were to be born today instead of a mailing list, > in what format would it be? A subreddit? A Discord server? I feel like > people no

Re: DIS: Re: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
Once you've got it working, it's really easy to put it in the rules by adding a new method like: "if something CAN be done Via Interface, it is done by (using this interface)." On Sun, 24 Dec 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I like the "accessible from mailing list" idea for a GNDT-like device. I'm >

Re: DIS: Re: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Cuddle Beam
I like the "accessible from mailing list" idea for a GNDT-like device. I'm totally inexperienced with making email bots though but the idea seems pretty clear: just state the action you'd want to do like if it was some kind of spell or something lol, like: "Bot: CUDDLEBEAM makes a TRANSFER of 10 S

Re: DIS: Re: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 23 Dec 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > GNDT = Generic Nomic Data Tracker, how BlogNomic tracks its gamestate with > no officers. Basically a web interface. > https://wiki.blognomic.com/index.php?title=New_Player_Guide#What_is_the_GNDT.3F > > MOO = MUD, Object-oriented. A MUD based on a obje

Re: DIS: Re: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Aris Merchant
GNDT = Generic Nomic Data Tracker, how BlogNomic tracks its gamestate with no officers. Basically a web interface. https://wiki.blognomic.com/index.php?title=New_Player_Guide#What_is_the_GNDT.3F MOO = MUD, Object-oriented. A MUD based on a object oriented database/programming language. https://en.

Re: DIS: Re: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
Nomic world was a MOO: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOO On Sun, 24 Dec 2017, Madeline wrote: > I wish I knew what these acronyms were. GNDT? MOO? > > > On 2017-12-24 09:30, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > This conversation seems to happen every year or so. With the 25th > > Anniversary coming

Re: DIS: Re: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Madeline
I wish I knew what these acronyms were. GNDT? MOO? On 2017-12-24 09:30, Kerim Aydin wrote: This conversation seems to happen every year or so. With the 25th Anniversary coming up, it's worth another round of improvement on the Agoranomic webpage IMO - yet again many of the reports there are o

Re: DIS: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread VJ Rada
personally i dislike the mailing list but it's not that hard to log on to gmail compared to a forum, it doesn't really bother me at all. On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > Using a mailing list over a forum is the same type of argument add using > IRC instead of a chatroom. Ye

Re: DIS: Re: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
This conversation seems to happen every year or so. With the 25th Anniversary coming up, it's worth another round of improvement on the Agoranomic webpage IMO - yet again many of the reports there are out of date, and the front page is fairly text heavy and not all that text is useful. It woul

Re: DIS: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Reuben Staley
Using a mailing list over a forum is the same type of argument add using IRC instead of a chatroom. Yes, it's an archaic form of communication. Yes, other software might have more features. But the thing is that you get to choose what client you want to use. You have far more choice with a mailin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ribbon Auctions

2017-12-23 Thread Edward Murphy
(Still skimming through a-d messages from my walkabout period, still have 20 Nov through 30 Nov left.) ATMunn wrote: >> I'm also uncomfortable with having the Ribbon rule mention Shinies; >> it's intended to work long-term even if the ruleset changes beneath >> it. I wouldn't know how to do th

Re: DIS: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread ATMunn
I think the thing that makes Agora unique, aside from its ruleset, is the fact that it does use a mailing list. It's going to have active times and inactive times, of course, but wouldn't anything? Another thing is that Agora almost changes too quickly to have a GNDT. We're constantly changing th

Re: DIS: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2017-12-23 at 15:16 +0100, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Seeing how activity and Office-holders are waning, I'd like to know how > people would feel about transitioning Agora off a Mailing List and onto a > different kind of substrate. > > I personally find our mailing list-only system to be archai

Re: DIS: Re: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I started a comic two years ago on a mailing list. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Dec 23, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > To add to this, if Agora were to be born today instead of a mailing list, > in what format would it be? A subreddit?

DIS: Re: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Cuddle Beam
To add to this, if Agora were to be born today instead of a mailing list, in what format would it be? A subreddit? A Discord server? I feel like people nowadays wouldn't consider making a new nomic as a mailing list because of how obscure it is, which adds to my feeling that Agora should probably u

Re: DIS: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Neither would I. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Dec 23, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > I'd probably not bother playing. > > On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 at 09:16 Cuddle Beam wrote: > >> Seeing how activity and Office-holders are waning, I'd li

Re: DIS: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Alexis Hunt
I'd probably not bother playing. On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 at 09:16 Cuddle Beam wrote: > Seeing how activity and Office-holders are waning, I'd like to know how > people would feel about transitioning Agora off a Mailing List and onto a > different kind of substrate. > > I personally find our mailing

DIS: Transitioning Agora off a Mailing List?

2017-12-23 Thread Cuddle Beam
Seeing how activity and Office-holders are waning, I'd like to know how people would feel about transitioning Agora off a Mailing List and onto a different kind of substrate. I personally find our mailing list-only system to be archaic and makes Agora's human cost to be even "playable" quite high,