Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proto Proposal: Hodgepodge

2017-08-02 Thread V.J Rada
And I didn't fix my typo of dependent, twice. Goddamn. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:47 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > I pend the following two proposals: the 1st with AP & > the 2nd with Shinies. > > Title: Cards are appealable, kinda > AI: 2 > In Rule 2426 entitled "Cards" > replace the text > {{A person SHA

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
If you're pondering this, It might be worth pondering how deputization plays in here. If an Officer misses "last week's" report, but then publishes "this week's" report, can someone else still deputize to publish "last week's " report? If you say " no, because it's impossible to go back in ti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
Totally agree, the CoE part is an unforeseen loophole! I suppose up you could argue that the R2201 duty is to publish a "revision" which isn't the same thing as a report? On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > Just to clarify my original argument, it's my belief that duty > fulfilling repo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Owen Jacobson
I intend to at least try to establish some precedent around when, precisely, a periodic duty such as a weekly report is “due,” and to do so in a way that allows it to come due with sufficient time for the officer to fulfil it before it becomes overdue and a card may be issued. We’ll see how succ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
The "duty" in that rule is to perform the "task" at least once. If you do it more times, it's still only the singular duty of doing the task "at least once" in the given time period. On Thu, 3 Aug 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I considered that, at least superficially, but note the “at least”

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Aris Merchant
Just to clarify my original argument, it's my belief that duty fulfilling report is one that fulfills an official obligation (you could be punished for not doing that job, and now you can't). A CoE revision fulfills the duty to handle the CoE, and it is a report, so... Basically, I agree with the c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Granular Payday (v2) (fwd)

2017-08-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
FWIW, the use of the term duty-fulfilling was a specific edit precisely to avoid the multiple-report issue: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 17:36:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Kerim Aydin To: "Agora Nomic discussions (DF)" Subject: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Granular Payd

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Owen Jacobson
I considered that, at least superficially, but note the “at least” in the definition of “weekly duties.” Even considering the common term “duty,” that “at least” appears to make any weekly report duty-fulfilling, regardless of how long it’s been since the previous report. The other option I cou

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
The rules define official duty as "any duty..." but do not the word duty in general. Seems worthy of reconsideration as it misses this basic definition. The definitition of Duty (in dictionary) is something required to be performed, and once a shall is satisfied, there is no requirement (ie

Re: DIS: Proto Proposal: Hodgepodge

2017-08-02 Thread Owen Jacobson
I would appreciate if you separated the change to Cards into a separate proposal. It is not minor, though it is a fix. Beyond that, this is grand. Thank you for undertaking this. I suspect that fix to 1728, in particular, is urgent. -o > On Jul 31, 2017, at 12:37 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > > Titl

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3552 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 15:37 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: >> CFJ: babelian has pended eir most recently submitted proposal. > > This is CFJ 3552, and was paid for (in a subsequent message) using AP. > I assign it to o. (Sorry

DIS: Re: BUS: Shiny Smuggling (Again)

2017-08-02 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Aug 2, 2017, at 9:47 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > On 07/30/2017 02:06 PM, Nic Evans wrote: >> Everything in the last attempt failed because I never had any shinies, >> stamps did not exist, and the mechanisms of ASaAA refered to were void at >> that time. So here they are again: >> >> Since