Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: restricted distribution

2014-10-30 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 31 October 2014 00:14, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > >> The Rulekeepor, Speaker and Prime Minister each have a >> spending power of 2. The Promotor has a spending power of >> 4. >> >> Changes to imminence and spending power both are se

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Any proposals around?

2014-10-30 Thread Eritivus
On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 02:56 +, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Once again, I vaguely remember a past CFJ that asked how much of > a report could be missing and still be a considered a report (with > missing data) versus an entirely missing report. The gist of my TRUE argument is that R2143 doesn't say t

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Any proposals around?

2014-10-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014, Eritivus wrote: > On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 02:24 +, Eritivus wrote: > > CFJ: The Promotor failed to perform a weekly duty during the week of > > 20 Oct. Deputisation to perform this duty is generally possible, > > given sufficient notice as per R2160(c), and given that the d

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7711-20

2014-10-30 Thread Tanner Swett
On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:55 PM, omd wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Luis Ressel wrote: >> 7711 omd1.0 Wordplay > > By the way, it was pointed out that this violates the recently > arguably reestablished custom of installing an officer, so I probably > should have changed it. But

Re: DIS: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

2014-10-30 Thread Tanner Swett
On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: >> >> On Oct 30, 2014 1:02 PM, "Henri Bouchard" wrote: >>> If it is that difficult for the recordkeepors, couldn't we just raise >>> the salary of the recordkeepors in order to compensate fo

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7711-20

2014-10-30 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, omd wrote: By the way, it was pointed out that this violates the recently arguably reestablished custom of installing an officer, so I probably should have changed it. But in any case, I volunteer to recordkeep this, and since I'm pretty sure King Azaz cannot even theoretic

DIS: Kniffordly happenings

2014-10-30 Thread Tanner Swett
On Oct 30, 2014, at 3:43 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > On 30 October 2014 04:45, Tanner Swett wrote: >> On Oct 24, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >>> I punch the Bard in the face. >> >> Inside the inn, we find the Bard and some unknown character, whom we >> designate AQ. The Bard is sin

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7711-20

2014-10-30 Thread omd
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Luis Ressel wrote: > 7711 omd1.0 Wordplay By the way, it was pointed out that this violates the recently arguably reestablished custom of installing an officer, so I probably should have changed it. But in any case, I volunteer to recordkeep this, and s

DIS: (no subject)

2014-10-30 Thread omd
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Luis Ressel wrote: > The proposal pool currently contains the following proposals (with > preliminary IDs): Though it's of course the Promotor's prerogative to choose when to distribute, I'm curious why you didn't distribute all of them.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: restricted distribution

2014-10-30 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: The Rulekeepor, Speaker and Prime Minister each have a spending power of 2. The Promotor has a spending power of 4. Changes to imminence and spending power both are secured. Set the spending power of the Promotor to 3. Are these

Re: DIS: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

2014-10-30 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Henri Bouchard wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Alex Smith wrote: On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 22:23 -0400, omd wrote: [...] 7700 1 Henri Office Salary AGAINST; we've attempted this sort of rule quite a lot, and it's never been worth the recordkeepor issue [...

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7711-20

2014-10-30 Thread Sprocklem
On 2014-10-30 16:55, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Luis Ressel wrote: >> IDAuthor(s) AI Title >> >> 7711 omd1.0 Wordplay > PRESENT >> 7712 Murphy 1.0 Full disclosure > FOR >> 7713

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 7711-20

2014-10-30 Thread Sean Hunt
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Luis Ressel wrote: > IDAuthor(s) AI Title > > 7711 omd1.0 Wordplay PRESENT > 7712 Murphy 1.0 Full disclosure FOR > 7713 Warrigal 3.0 Speedliness FOR > 7714 Tiger

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

2014-10-30 Thread omd
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Eritivus wrote: > On Mon, 2014-10-27 at 06:22 +, Eritivus wrote: >> > 7706 3 omd Fast Track >> ENDORSE scshunt > > If this was a valid ballot [*], I retract it. > > I vote FOR 7706. > > [*] It seems scshunt isn't registered? After a bit of research -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

2014-10-30 Thread Henri Bouchard
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >> On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 22:23 -0400, omd wrote: > [...] >>> 7701 1 Henri Credits >> AGAINST; broken, amendments cannot be made simultaneously > [...] > > Wait, why not? > > -Henri

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

2014-10-30 Thread Henri Bouchard
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 22:23 -0400, omd wrote: [...] >> 7701 1 Henri Credits > AGAINST; broken, amendments cannot be made simultaneously [...] Wait, why not? -Henri

Re: DIS: no odds offered this week

2014-10-30 Thread Henri Bouchard
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: >> Testing. Are you all getting this message? When I simply reply to >> messages I get from the mailing list, my messages don't appear in my >> inbox, but when I change the subject of the em

Re: DIS: no odds offered this week

2014-10-30 Thread Sean Hunt
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: > Testing. Are you all getting this message? When I simply reply to > messages I get from the mailing list, my messages don't appear in my > inbox, but when I change the subject of the email and reply, I get my > message, so I'm confused. > >

Re: DIS: no odds offered this week

2014-10-30 Thread Henri Bouchard
Testing. Are you all getting this message? When I simply reply to messages I get from the mailing list, my messages don't appear in my inbox, but when I change the subject of the email and reply, I get my message, so I'm confused. -Henri

DIS: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

2014-10-30 Thread Henri Bouchard
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > > On Oct 30, 2014 1:02 PM, "Henri Bouchard" wrote: >> If it is that difficult for the recordkeepors, couldn't we just raise >> the salary of the recordkeepors in order to compensate for the burden? >> Isn't that the purpose of the variable of

Re: DIS: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

2014-10-30 Thread Henri Bouchard
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > > On Oct 30, 2014 1:02 PM, "Henri Bouchard" wrote: >> If it is that difficult for the recordkeepors, couldn't we just raise >> the salary of the recordkeepors in order to compensate for the burden? >> Isn't that the purpose of the variable of

Re: DIS: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

2014-10-30 Thread Henri Bouchard
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > > On Oct 30, 2014 1:02 PM, "Henri Bouchard" wrote: >> If it is that difficult for the recordkeepors, couldn't we just raise >> the salary of the recordkeepors in order to compensate for the burden? >> Isn't that the purpose of the variable of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: restricted distribution

2014-10-30 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 30 October 2014 19:05, omd wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> I retract the proposal "Restricted distribution". I submit the >> following proposal (an edited version): > > Still contains the "swich" typo. Regarding the attributes thing, > since this proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Province?

2014-10-30 Thread Benjamin Schultz
Oscarosaurus grazes in the farmland near the inn. E tries to determine if the strange music has a good STOMP beat. (It's hard to enjoy music any other way when you lack opposable thumbs or nimble ankles.) [I'm kind of planning to make my character something out of Dinotopia ( http://en.wikipedia

Re: DIS: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

2014-10-30 Thread Tanner Swett
On Oct 30, 2014 1:02 PM, "Henri Bouchard" wrote: > If it is that difficult for the recordkeepors, couldn't we just raise > the salary of the recordkeepors in order to compensate for the burden? > Isn't that the purpose of the variable office salary? Well, we can increase salaries all we want, but

DIS: no odds offered this week

2014-10-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
As my 'nomic' time budget will be used on CFJ catchup, I will not post GNP odds for the current week. I expect to post odds for next week in the neighborhood of Tue-Wed. -G.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: restricted distribution

2014-10-30 Thread omd
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > I retract the proposal "Restricted distribution". I submit the > following proposal (an edited version): Still contains the "swich" typo. Regarding the attributes thing, since this proposal is already AI 3, can't you just make a simple wo

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: restricted distribution

2014-10-30 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 30 October 2014 18:07, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > I retract the proposal "Restricted distribution". I submit the > following proposal (an edited version): > [...] I didn't come up with any good solution for the rule about not changing the attribute of proposals after their creation. I think it m

DIS: [Deputy Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7698-7710

2014-10-30 Thread Henri Bouchard
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 22:23 -0400, omd wrote: [...] >> 7700 1 Henri Office Salary > AGAINST; we've attempted this sort of rule quite a lot, and it's never > been worth the recordkeepor issue [...] >> 7702 1 Henri Minister for Soc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Any proposals around?

2014-10-30 Thread Eritivus
On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 15:25 +, Sprocklem wrote: > E did, however, fail to, "as part of eir weekly duties, distribute all > pending proposals", something that the rules say e SHALL do. omd distributed the only pending proposal, "Ribbons 2014". I don't think this duty could enable deputisation a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Any proposals around?

2014-10-30 Thread Sprocklem
On 2014-10-30 00:39, Eritivus wrote: > On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 02:24 +, Eritivus wrote: >> The Promotor failed to publish all such information. In particular, >> e did not publish that "Wordplay" was in the Proposal Pool. > > Counterarguments: > > The information required is 'a list of all prop

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Province?

2014-10-30 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 30 October 2014 04:45, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Oct 24, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >> I punch the Bard in the face. > > Inside the inn, we find the Bard and some unknown character, whom we > designate AQ. The Bard is singing merrily, and AQ, evidently growing > impatient with ei

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Promotor] Any proposals around?

2014-10-30 Thread omd
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Eritivus wrote: > Counterarguments: > > The information required is 'a list of all proposals in the Proposal > Pool, along with their text and attributes', not each individual > fact that list represents, such as 'that "Wordplay" was in the > Proposal Pool'. > > Th