Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I don't get it

2011-11-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, omd wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Considered it's only to be used when there's something buggy which > > would probably be fixed when caught, a good compromise is to add a > > sentence to another officer (Registrar?) > > Perhaps just remove

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I don't get it

2011-11-07 Thread omd
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Considered it's only to be used when there's something buggy which > would probably be fixed when caught, a good compromise is to add a > sentence to another officer (Registrar?) Perhaps just remove the requirement that switches be tracked by a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I don't get it

2011-11-07 Thread Pavitra
On 11/07/2011 06:22 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > scshunt wrote: > >> Proposal: What? (AI=1) >> {{{ >> Repeal Rule 2353 (The Conductor). >> [All switches must be tracked] >> }}} > > The point is, if we create a new switch and a new officer, but forget > to specify that the latter tracks the former (this

DIS: Re: BUS: I don't get it

2011-11-07 Thread Ed Murphy
scshunt wrote: > Proposal: What? (AI=1) > {{{ > Repeal Rule 2353 (The Conductor). > [All switches must be tracked] > }}} The point is, if we create a new switch and a new officer, but forget to specify that the latter tracks the former (this has actually happened at least once), then R2353 preven

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Search parties give up

2011-11-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, ais523 wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 14:53 -0500, Sean Hunt wrote: > > n Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 14:48, ais523 wrote: > > > You can't use destruction of promises, because you can't create promises > > > in other promises, and so this wouldn't be able to run forever. > > > > Yes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Search parties give up

2011-11-07 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 14:53 -0500, Sean Hunt wrote: > n Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 14:48, ais523 wrote: > > You can't use destruction of promises, because you can't create promises > > in other promises, and so this wouldn't be able to run forever. > > Yes you can. Hmm, indeed. I thought G. and I put s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Search parties give up

2011-11-07 Thread Pavitra
On 11/07/2011 01:53 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > n Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 14:48, ais523 wrote: >> You can't use destruction of promises, because you can't create promises >> in other promises, and so this wouldn't be able to run forever. > > Yes you can. Yup, see for example the former (2011-07-19 omd).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Search parties give up

2011-11-07 Thread Sean Hunt
n Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 14:48, ais523 wrote: > You can't use destruction of promises, because you can't create promises > in other promises, and so this wouldn't be able to run forever. Yes you can. -scshunt

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Search parties give up

2011-11-07 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 13:42 -0600, Pavitra wrote: > On 11/06/2011 09:11 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote: > > In general I think a better question is whether you can evaluate > > complex expressions with promises without requiring complicated > > naming schemes or complicated individual messages that cou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Search parties give up

2011-11-07 Thread Pavitra
On 11/06/2011 09:11 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote: > In general I think a better question is whether you can evaluate > complex expressions with promises without requiring complicated > naming schemes or complicated individual messages that could be > thrown out as unclear, relying instead on emergent

Re: DIS: A useless but kind of neat proto

2011-11-07 Thread Tanner Swett
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > In a few of the more cutthroat and/or fast-paced asset-trading contests > I've run I've set up a similar mechanic (to avoid the trivial "I'll > trade you one Green for a Yellow."  "Sure here's the Green".  "haha I > lied no Yellow!")  Nice to h

Re: DIS: A useless but kind of neat proto

2011-11-07 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 14:25 -0500, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:23 PM, ais523 wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 09:51 -0500, Tanner Swett wrote: > >> Raison d'être: I recently learned about STM, so I want to use it > >> everywhere. > > > > B Nomic had this rule for ages. > > Or

Re: DIS: A useless but kind of neat proto

2011-11-07 Thread Craig Daniel
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:23 PM, ais523 wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 09:51 -0500, Tanner Swett wrote: >> Raison d'être: I recently learned about STM, so I want to use it everywhere. > > B Nomic had this rule for ages. Or rather, we thought it did. - teucer

Re: DIS: A useless but kind of neat proto

2011-11-07 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 09:51 -0500, Tanner Swett wrote: > Raison d'être: I recently learned about STM, so I want to use it everywhere. B Nomic had this rule for ages. I rather like it, and it wasn't useless. I suggest that once any wording bugs are ironed out, you propose it. -- Alex Smith

Re: DIS: A useless but kind of neat proto

2011-11-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Tanner Swett wrote: > A transaction is a sequence of events defined as such by the rules. A > sequence of events that takes place "atomically" is a transaction. A > transaction can include another transaction as one of its steps; apart > from this, transactions always occur se

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 3105-06 assigned to G.

2011-11-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Mister Snuggles wrote: > postmortem arguments: i believe the word "ambiguous" is ambiguous. it > could mean "having multiple interpretations, all objectively > possible", which would mean my identity is not ambiguous, or "having > multiple interpretations, all subjectively pos

DIS: A useless but kind of neat proto

2011-11-07 Thread Tanner Swett
Raison d'être: I recently learned about STM, so I want to use it everywhere. Proposal, AI = 1, "Software Transactional Memory": {Create a power-1 rule, titled "Acidic Transactions", with the following text: A transaction is a sequence of events defined as such by the rules. A sequence of events

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 3105-06 assigned to G.

2011-11-07 Thread Mister Snuggles
postmortem arguments: i believe the word "ambiguous" is ambiguous. it could mean "having multiple interpretations, all objectively possible", which would mean my identity is not ambiguous, or "having multiple interpretations, all subjectively possible (that is, not actually known to be wrong)", whi