Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Proposal 6959 Results

2011-01-31 Thread omd
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I agree that legislative clarification would help here, strongly.  There's > an interesting history to "gamestate" in reset proposals along with "deem" > and other terms of legal fiction that have been used until strongly > questioned and then

DIS: Re: BUS: Conditional registration at all?

2011-01-31 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
Yeah... If a CFJ on the condition would be judged TRUE or FALSE (so not UNDECIDABLE or something else), the condition is clear so I think the intent is also clear. Of course, if the condition status is FALSE... There's no registration. =P That being said, if we're going on intent alone... One coul

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Proposal 6959 Results

2011-01-31 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, omd wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> Gratuitous: Note again, though, that if the gamestate doesn't contain > >> history, changing the gamestate to "what it would be" doesn't actually > >> create anything describable as a Legal Fiction.  In th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Proposal 6959 Results

2011-01-31 Thread omd
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Gratuitous: Note again, though, that if the gamestate doesn't contain >> history, changing the gamestate to "what it would be" doesn't actually >> create anything describable as a Legal Fiction.  In that case we are >> left with the real seque

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Proposal 6959 Results

2011-01-31 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, omd wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Gratuitous:  regardless of the "real" sequence of events, the Legal Fiction > > established at power-3.2 is that Bucky's conditional was never satisfied, so > > e was never a player in the first place.  T

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Proposal 6959 Results

2011-01-31 Thread omd
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Gratuitous:  regardless of the "real" sequence of events, the Legal Fiction > established at power-3.2 is that Bucky's conditional was never satisfied, so > e was never a player in the first place.  This case is an important precedent > for th

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Proposal 6959 Results

2011-01-31 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, ais523 wrote: > > Gratuitous: regardless of the "real" sequence of events, the Legal Fiction > > established at power-3.2 is that Bucky's conditional was never satisfied, so > > e was never a player in the first place. This case is an important > > precedent > > for the qu

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Proposal 6959 Results

2011-01-31 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, John Smith wrote: > Arguments:The quoted message caused me to register dependent on the actions > in the message referenced in the Coda. The Coda thus implicitly caused me to > cease to be a player (deregistered), without mentioning honorable > deregistration. > > > CfJ