Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> coppro wrote: >> >>> Ed Murphy wrote: Rule 1504, in the section on SILENCE: "The judge CAN, with 2 Support, set the fine" etc. >>> I'm not the judge yet, unless I missed the announcement. >> R1728(c)(1) allows the judge to do it; R1728(c)(3) allows on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote: > coppro wrote: > >> Ed Murphy wrote: >>> Rule 1504, in the section on SILENCE: "The judge CAN, with 2 Support, >>> set the fine" etc. >> I'm not the judge yet, unless I missed the announcement. > > R1728(c)(1) allows the judge to do it; R1728(c)(3) allows one of the > supporter

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> Rule 1504, in the section on SILENCE: "The judge CAN, with 2 Support, >> set the fine" etc. > I'm not the judge yet, unless I missed the announcement. R1728(c)(1) allows the judge to do it; R1728(c)(3) allows one of the supporters to do it, since R1504 doesn't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Elliott Hird
Y-- thr--t-n-d t- w-th th- c-b-l -nd n-t-ry. On 2009-05-28, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 09:10 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> You raise a good point though: if you can avoid a "forced" crime by >> resigning, are you required to resign rather than choose the lesser >> crime? That's tru

DIS: Proto-contest: Life

2009-05-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
We played this a couple years ago and it was fun. Anyone interested enough for me to do a more complete contest description (tighten the Agoran-legal language of the below and fiddle to find good values for M,P,T, etc)? Proto-contest: Conway's Life (competitive). An MxM grid exists on a torus

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> If the error is wholly unknown, it's not a crime. > > Not necessarily; if it's reasonable for them to know, then it's still a > crime. If they miss a proposal made last week, it's probably a crime. A > proposal made last year, notsomuch

Re: DIS: Coordinate grid

2009-05-28 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Roger Hicks wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 16:18, Benjamin Caplan > wrote: >> Am I imagining things, or was there a contract recently that defined >> a coordinate grid of locations? >> > > I sent one out but it seemed nobody was interested. "Wacky World" was > the title. I just took another lo

DIS: Re: BUS: I mean, school really sucks. Not much time.

2009-05-28 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Rodlen wrote: > >> I resign from being Janitor. >> >> -- >> --Rodlen >> > > Hmm. I CFJ on the following sentence. Rodlen is a candidate in the upcoming > Janitor election. > > Evidence: E was the Janitor when the election was initiated, b

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote: > Rule 1504, in the section on SILENCE: "The judge CAN, with 2 Support, > set the fine" etc. I'm not the judge yet, unless I missed the announcement.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> coppro wrote: >> >>> Ed Murphy wrote: TTttPF and (the needed support having been achieved) I set the fine at 3 Rests. >>> Fails, you aren't the judge. >> R1728(c)(3). >> > What authorizes me to do that? Rule 1504, in the section on SILENCE: "The judg

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6324-6338

2009-05-28 Thread comex
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > This distribution of proposals 6324-6338 initiates the Agoran > Decisions on whether to adopt them.  The eligible voters for ordinary > proposals are the active players, the eligible voters for democratic > proposals are the active first-cla

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6324-6338

2009-05-28 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > I also can't remember if I voted. If I have voted on the below proposals, > I retract those votes and vote: > >>> 6324 O 1 1.0 comex Just my Opinion > AGAINST >>> 6325 D 1 3.0 coppro Fix Promotion Mistakes > AGAINST. This would cause a lot of heada

DIS: Re: BUS: Contest: Wizard's Fued

2009-05-28 Thread Benjamin Schultz
Just one nitpick: A magus does not "summon" an enchantment. - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr

DIS: Re: BUS: Gravitation

2009-05-28 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > I gravitate a prop from coppro (who used 'Goethe' in yesterday's report) to > Tiger (for being the first to use my full nick in a report that I've noticed). > > -G. I transfer a prop from Goethe to Pavitra for choosing an inane nickname.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote: > coppro wrote: > >> Ed Murphy wrote: >>> TTttPF and (the needed support having been achieved) I set the fine >>> at 3 Rests. >> Fails, you aren't the judge. > > R1728(c)(3). > What authorizes me to do that?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > If the error is wholly unknown, it's not a crime. Not necessarily; if it's reasonable for them to know, then it's still a crime. If they miss a proposal made last week, it's probably a crime. A proposal made last year, notsomuch.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [DM] (i)nventory & proposed change

2009-05-28 Thread Sean Hunt
Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Sean Hunt wrote: >> =SCROLL EFFECTS= >> >> When performing the following actions, if I specify that I both award >> and revoke points from a player, I only actually award/revoke as little >> as is necessary to cause th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Nicked Off

2009-05-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Taral wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: >> Selecting a nickname that contains more than 20 characters, or more >> than two non-alphanumeric characters is the class 5 crime of Mentally >> Assaulting an Officer, unless at the same time as the selecti

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Nicked Off

2009-05-28 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On May 28, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: Selecting a nickname that contains more than 20 characters, or more than two non-alphanumeric characters is the class 5 crime of Mentally Assaulting an Officer, unless at the same time as the selection the player changing nicknames supplies a suita

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Nicked Off

2009-05-28 Thread Taral
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > Selecting a nickname that contains more than 20 characters, or more > than two non-alphanumeric characters is the class 5 crime of Mentally > Assaulting an Officer, unless at the same time as the selection the > player changing nicknames suppl

Re: DIS: Coordinate grid

2009-05-28 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 16:18, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Am I imagining things, or was there a contract recently that defined a > coordinate grid of locations? > I sent one out but it seemed nobody was interested. "Wacky World" was the title. BobTHJ

DIS: Coordinate grid

2009-05-28 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Am I imagining things, or was there a contract recently that defined a coordinate grid of locations?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Nicked Off

2009-05-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 14:22 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: > I don't see how this restricts R101it says the chosen nick shall > be used to identify the player, but it doesn't limit what else can be > used to identify the player. Well, if you're interpreting the shall that way round, then it would b

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 09:10 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > You raise a good point though: if you can avoid a "forced" crime by > resigning, are you required to resign rather than choose the lesser > crime? That's true in the real world (the "honorable resignation") > If interpreted that here way it's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [DM] (i)nventory & proposed change

2009-05-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 09:32 -0500, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Sean Hunt wrote: > > =SCROLL EFFECTS= > > > > When performing the following actions, if I specify that I both award > > and revoke points from a player, I only actually award/revoke

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Nicked Off

2009-05-28 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 13:25, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Thu, 28 May 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: >> As soon as possible after registering for the first time a player CAN >> and SHALL select a unique nickname to be used by Agora in the >> identification of that player on official documents. That nickn

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> I wrote: >> >>> coppro wrote: >>> Sean Hunt wrote: > Alex Smith wrote: >> I CFJ on this; the issue of whether MIME messages containing both >> plaintext and HTML are legal is a rather important one, and I think it >> should go through the co

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest: Wizard's Fued

2009-05-28 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 13:52, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 13:47, Sgeo wrote: >>> As soon as possible after a first-class person joins this contract for >>> the first time the contestmaster CAN and SHALL create three Cauldrons >>> and three Vials (each with one random component)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contest: Wizard's Fued

2009-05-28 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 13:47, Sgeo wrote: >> As soon as possible after a first-class person joins this contract for >> the first time the contestmaster CAN and SHALL create three Cauldrons >> and three Vials (each with one random component) in the possession of >> that person. > > So what happens

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Nicked Off

2009-05-28 Thread Sgeo
> Selecting a nickname that contains more than 20 characters, or more > than two non-alphanumeric characters is the class 5 crime of Mentally > Assaulting an Officer, unless at the same time as the selection the > player changing nicknames supplies a suitable abbreviation which fits > the required

DIS: Re: BUS: Contest: Wizard's Fued

2009-05-28 Thread Sgeo
> As soon as possible after a first-class person joins this contract for > the first time the contestmaster CAN and SHALL create three Cauldrons > and three Vials (each with one random component) in the possession of > that person. So what happens when the second first-class person joins? I know i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Nicked Off

2009-05-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Thu, 28 May 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: >> As soon as possible after registering for the first time a player CAN >> and SHALL select a unique nickname to be used by Agora in the >> identification of that player on official documents. That nic

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Nicked Off

2009-05-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: > As soon as possible after registering for the first time a player CAN > and SHALL select a unique nickname to be used by Agora in the > identification of that player on official documents. That nickname > shall be used in the identification of that player

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread comex
Not to mention that an equivalent proprosal would probably limit it to 1-2 weeks. Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: Gratuitous: Publishing an erroneous repo

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-05-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: > 2009/5/28 Jonatan Kilhamn : >> (1) Confusion Arises from Sufficiently Entropy-Infused Nickname >> Permutation Overwhelming Initial Nickname Transparency (previously >> Pavitra) >> (2) You May Call Me Big Fucking Edward (previously ehird) >> (3) Gravity Ci

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-05-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/28 Elliott Hird : > 2009/5/28 Jonatan Kilhamn : >> (1) Confusion Arises from Sufficiently Entropy-Infused Nickname >> Permutation Overwhelming Initial Nickname Transparency (previously >> Pavitra) >> (2) You May Call Me Big Fucking Edward (previously ehird) >> (3) Gravity Circumference Line

DIS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-05-28 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/5/28 Jonatan Kilhamn : > (1) Confusion Arises from Sufficiently Entropy-Infused Nickname > Permutation Overwhelming Initial Nickname Transparency (previously > Pavitra) > (2) You May Call Me Big Fucking Edward (previously ehird) > (3) Gravity Circumference Line Deja Vu Cardboard Duck e^(-kt) >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/5/28 Sean Hunt : > I publish an NoV alleging that Yally violated Rule 2143, committing the > Class-6 Crim of Making My Eyes Bleed, by means of publishing eir most > recent IADoP's report in HTML. > > I contest this NoV. > MIME, not HTML. Maybe. Probably.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/5/28 Geoffrey Spear : > Then don't submit them in any font.  Send plain text, like every other > officer.  Many of whom use Gmail with no problems whatsoever. yes plz

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fresh Nomic has apparently died

2009-05-28 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/5/28 Alex Smith : > On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 20:22 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> Fresh Nomic has a nomic ruleset as I can make any arbitrary change in >> a finite time. Therefore, it is a nomic. > > A nomic can be abandoned, and yet still a nomic. (One True Agora, for > instance, or Old Canada.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Gratuitous: Publishing an erroneous report (power-1 Rule) is less >> serious than ratifying one (Class-8 Crime). > > Yes, but if the report is incorrect I'm obligated to publish an > incorrect report

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hello all

2009-05-28 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/28 Benjamin Caplan : > Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Benjamin Caplan >> wrote: >>> Kerim Aydin wrote: I change my nickname to Gravity Circumference Line Deja Vu Cardboard Duck e^(-kt). >>> >>> ... >>> >>> I change my name to Confusion Arises from Suff

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hello all

2009-05-28 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Benjamin Caplan > wrote: >> Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> I change my nickname to Gravity Circumference Line Deja Vu Cardboard Duck >>> e^(-kt). >> >> ... >> >> I change my name to Confusion Arises from Sufficiently Entropy-Infused >> Nickname Pe

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-05-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Gratuitous: Publishing an erroneous report (power-1 Rule) is less > serious than ratifying one (Class-8 Crime). Yes, but if the report is incorrect I'm obligated to publish an incorrect report weekly, making the cumulative violation potentially

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hello all

2009-05-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I change my nickname to Gravity Circumference Line Deja Vu Cardboard Duck >> e^(-kt). > > ... > > I change my name to Confusion Arises from Sufficiently Entropy-Infused > Nickname Permutation Overwhelming Initial Nic

DIS: Re: BUS: [DM] (i)nventory & proposed change

2009-05-28 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Sean Hunt wrote: > =SCROLL EFFECTS= > > When performing the following actions, if I specify that I both award > and revoke points from a player, I only actually award/revoke as little > as is necessary to cause the same net change. > > I awa

DIS: Re: BUS: [DM] (i)nventory & proposed change

2009-05-28 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Sean Hunt wrote: > Pavitra: > a - a scroll labeled LROAEM DLANB > b - a scroll labeled EMAG EHT NIW UOY I read both of these. Pavitra signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

2009-05-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Defendant's Arguments: Regardless of my guilt or innocence on the matter, I > believe that if I am found guilty, it would be fundamentally unjust for any > sentencing other than DISMISS as it is standard for gmail to use MIME and I > cannot