On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 16:55 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
> > 2009/5/8 Geoffrey Spear :
> > > I nominate myself as Promotor again, and will continue to do so even
> > > as I continue to get badly defeated in the elections.
> >
> > Helping hand:
>
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 10:20 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> 2. If the power-system becomes paradoxically unclear, here's three
> equally reasonable resolutions:
> a. We should use the system that existed just before the rule
> creating the paradox was created (e.g. maintain power).
>
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 10:20 -0400, Quazie wrote:
> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> >>> 6273 Quick-and-dirty-fixD 3.0 3 coppro
>
>
> I endorse murphy and goethe if ey agree.
"they". Spivak doesn't change plurals, for the simple reason that
there
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 22:19 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
> Sgeo wrote:
> > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Sgeo wrote:
> >> Let i = number of invaders needed to prevent the Aericans from
> >> impeaching our Senators
> >> Let c = the number of active and aware members of a colony
> >>
> >> i = 5c+1
> >
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 18:42 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> Nomic is supposed to be a legal simulation, so try another analogy.
> Suppose the U.S. Congress enacted a bill stating that bills enacted by
> Congress take precedence over the Constitution. What do you think
> would happen?
As usual in such m
Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Fri, 8 May 2009, Sean Hunt wrote:
>> NUM TITLE T AI II AUTHOR
>> 6274 Quick-and-dirty-fix 3 D 3.0 1 coppro
>
> Please stop abusing your position when there's an alternate fix proposed.
> It's unreasonabl
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> NUM TITLE T AI II AUTHOR
> 6274 Quick-and-dirty-fix 3 D 3.0 1 coppro
I nominate Wooble for promotor. If you're going to make emergency
distributions, at least include all curre
Why?
On 2009-05-09, Dvorak Herring wrote:
> I vote:
>
>> NUM TITLE T AI II AUTHOR
>> 6274 Quick-and-dirty-fix 3 D 3.0 1 coppro
>>
> AGAINST
>
> --
> Dvorak Herring
>
I vote:
> NUM TITLE T AI II AUTHOR
> 6274 Quick-and-dirty-fix 3 D 3.0 1 coppro
>
AGAINST
--
Dvorak Herring
Second draft. I'll start the process of making this an actual
contract in a couple days if there are no further comments.
1. This is a public contract called Red November. This contract is
intended to be a contest. The contestmaster CAN add axes to this
contract by announcement. The cont
Yally wrote:
> You can't rubberstamp elections.
Meh? I thought that proposal had gone through. Maybe it's in
the 6238-56 batch that I need to resolve.
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> I resolve the Agoran decision to decide the holder of the Registrar office.
>
> The votes are as follows:
>
> Wooble: Murphy, comex, root, Taral, Tiger
> Yally: None
>
> Note: Arnold Bros (est. 1905)'s and coppro's votes do not count due to
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> Yally wrote:
>
> > These elections are failing quorum and will soon have to have their
> > voting periods extended if enough votes are not cast:
> >
> > CotC(Arnold Bros (est. 1905), Murphy, Wooble), fails by one vote.
>
> I rubberstamp this deci
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> Yally wrote:
>
> > What if elections are just monthly or so instead of being whenever
> > someone wants one?
>
> Then an officer has up to a month to abuse eir office with impunity,
> whereas now they can be sacked in as little as four days.
>
>
Yally wrote:
> What if elections are just monthly or so instead of being whenever
> someone wants one?
Then an officer has up to a month to abuse eir office with impunity,
whereas now they can be sacked in as little as four days.
Yally wrote:
> These elections are failing quorum and will soon have to have their
> voting periods extended if enough votes are not cast:
>
> CotC(Arnold Bros (est. 1905), Murphy, Wooble), fails by one vote.
I rubberstamp this decision.
> Anarchist(coppro, Quazie, Tiger), fails by one vote.
I
Yally wrote:
> I resolve the election for Insulator as BobTHJ is the only candidate.
> E is installed.
To the best of my knowledge, the only changes since the last Insulator's
report were as follows:
Mon 4 May 20:18:48 root -1 comex G# G#
Mon 4 May 20:48:43 root +1 voluntary
Mo
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>
>> Amend R2154 (Election procedure) by replacing:
>> Any player CAN by announcement initiate...
>> with:
>> Any player
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Elliott Hird <
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 2009/5/8 Geoffrey Spear :
> > I nominate myself as Promotor again, and will continue to do so even
> > as I continue to get badly defeated in the elections.
>
> Helping hand:
>
> I nominate Wooble for every o
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On Fri, 8 May 2009, Elliott Hird wrote:
> > I nominate Wooble for every office.
> >
> > Sorry-IADOP-it-had-to-be-done-ly yrs,
>
> I submit the following proposal, Stop IADoP Abuse, AI-2:
>
> --
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Taral wrote:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
>> 6273 Quick-and-dirty-fix D 3.0 3 coppro
>
> Are we *sure* this one's right?
No, it's wrong. coppro distributed it by mistake.
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> 6273 Quick-and-dirty-fix D 3.0 3 coppro
Are we *sure* this one's right?
--
Taral
"Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you."
-- Unknown
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Josiah Worcester wrote:
> I, by the small amount of power vested in me as Agoran Spy, due hereby
> dub Taral Goddess Eris.
Aw, thanks!
--
Taral
"Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you."
-- Unknown
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Benjamin Caplan wrote:
> Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 May 2009, Benjamin Caplan wrote:
>>> I believe that the best way to understand Problematic Precedence is with
>>> the example of The Regulations of Agora. When there are two
>>> contradictory but individually consistent i
Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Fri, 8 May 2009, Benjamin Caplan wrote:
>> I believe that the best way to understand Problematic Precedence is with
>> the example of The Regulations of Agora. When there are two
>> contradictory but individually consistent interpretations of the rules,
>> then each should b
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Benjamin Caplan wrote:
> I believe that the best way to understand Problematic Precedence is with
> the example of The Regulations of Agora. When there are two
> contradictory but individually consistent interpretations of the rules,
> then each should be considered a separate
Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Fri, 8 May 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
>> Then the text of the rules is unclear (paradoxically so) as to
>> precedence, and we apply game custom and common sense in accepting the
>> higher-powered rule's claim. Just like a real world judge would do
>> with a local ordinance
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Ed Murphy wrote:
> I think you can insert [general-purpose], with the borderline between
> general and specific left to judicial interpretation.
The reason I'm just gut-level uncomfortable with this is that when you
insert a [qualifier] in 'any means', you're qualifying 'any',
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> Then the text of the rules is unclear (paradoxically so) as to
> precedence, and we apply game custom and common sense in accepting the
> higher-powered rule's claim. Just like a real world judge would do
> with a local ordinance saying "this law takes
Goethe wrote:
> On Thu, 7 May 2009, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> Are we certain that interpreting R1482p2s1 as "any other
>> [general-purpose] means of determining precedence between
>> [any two] Rules of unequal Power" isn't broken (other than
>> allowing scams that were never actually attempted, and will
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> ps. If you say this R1482 allows very specific precedence rules
>> to be adopted (e.g. "this rule has precedence over rests") how
>> about this very specific one: "this rule has precedence over
>>
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> ps. If you say this R1482 allows very specific precedence rules
> to be adopted (e.g. "this rule has precedence over rests") how
> about this very specific one: "this rule has precedence over
> all rules that specify precedence"?
Then the te
On Thu, 7 May 2009, Ed Murphy wrote:
> Are we certain that interpreting R1482p2s1 as "any other
> [general-purpose] means of determining precedence between
> [any two] Rules of unequal Power" isn't broken (other than
> allowing scams that were never actually attempted, and will
> soon be blocked)?
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Elliott Hird
wrote:
> Helping hand:
>
> I nominate Wooble for every office.
Fails; it's IMPOSSIBLE to nominate me for at least a couple of offices.
Oh, thanks.
C-walker
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Charles Walker
> wrote:
> >> I create a White ribbon in gwen's possession.
> >
> > Can I have one of those?
>
> You gained one when you registered; it was 2 days before ribbons were
>
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Charles Walker
wrote:
>> I create a White ribbon in gwen's possession.
>
> Can I have one of those?
You gained one when you registered; it was 2 days before ribbons were
pragmatized.
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Quazie wrote:
> > i am a separate person from quazie and i register at this e-mail
> > address with a nickname of 'gwen.'
>
> I create a White ribbon in gwen's possession.
>
Can I have one of those?
c-walke
On Thu, 7 May 2009, Sean Hunt wrote:
> Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
Create a new power-4 rule entitled {Precedence of Rules} and assign it
an ID Number of 1.
>>
>> In honesty, having read it, I preferred my suggestion of putting 1030 and
>> 148
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Ed Murphy wrote:
> Quazie wrote:
>> As Goethe notes the player would be making the change, and a player
>> has insufficient power to change a rule. If the rule indicated that
>> something changed the rule, then the rule would actually be changed.
>
> I intend, with 2 support,
Ed Murphy wrote:
>> 6273 Quick-and-dirty-fixD 3.0 3 coppro
>
> AGAINST, and I strongly recommend implementing some automation
> so the proposal numbers in the summary stop getting screwed up.
Yeah, the automation is there now, but I have to manually move proposals
arou
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