DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2354-56 assigned to Taral

2009-02-16 Thread Taral
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I appeal the above 2 judgments on culpability. I could not have > reasonably avoided this breach of the rules; woggle and I made a > reasonable effort to cause the appeals panel to act. Ooo, good point. Fair enough. -- Taral "Please let

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADOP] Resolving Anarchist, Assessor elections

2009-02-16 Thread Taral
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > Wooble: Taral > I select Murphy as the outcome. > -IADoP Wooble I am amused. :) -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Get on with it!

2009-02-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> Upon such an occurrence, the vote collector for the decision >> SHOULD issue a humiliating public reminder to the slackers who >> have not yet cast any votes on it despite being eligible, and >> CAN end the voting decision by announcemen

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Get on with it!

2009-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> Upon such an occurrence, the vote collector for the decision >> SHOULD issue a humiliating public reminder to the slackers who >> have not yet cast any votes on it despite being eligible, and >> CAN end the v

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Get on with it!

2009-02-16 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Ed Murphy wrote: > Upon such an occurrence, the vote collector for the decision > SHOULD issue a humiliating public reminder to the slackers who > have not yet cast any votes on it despite being eligible, and > CAN end the voting decision by announcement if the result would

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgements

2009-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > This comes down on the anti- side. Neither a Bill nor an Amendment > can be changed once the process of voting on it begins. [...] > There should also be at least one CFJ along the lines of "even if the > proposal's text did change, did the decision and ass

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADOP] Resolving Anarchist, Assessor elections

2009-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
> Tiger: Tiger > Wooble: Tiger > Murphy: Tiger > Goethe: Tiger (endorsing Tiger) > Taral: Tiger > OscarMeyr: Tiger Mushroom, mushroom...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Recusal

2009-02-16 Thread comex
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > comex wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> I recuse comex from CFJ 2361. >> >> I was going to judge that, even. > > Yeah, well, you were almost a week overdue. Good point. :)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Recusal

2009-02-16 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I recuse comex from CFJ 2361. > > I was going to judge that, even. Yeah, well, you were almost a week overdue.

DIS: Re: BUS: Recusal

2009-02-16 Thread comex
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > I recuse comex from CFJ 2361. I was going to judge that, even.

Re: DIS: RE: Proposal: Clean up the deregistration mess v1.1

2009-02-16 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > Murphy wrote: >> Amend paragraph 5 of rule 869 to read: >> >> A player CAN deregister by announcement. A person CANNOT >> register within thirty days after deregistering by any means >> that e initiated with the clear intent of being deregistered. > > "I deregister

DIS: RE: Proposal: Clean up the deregistration mess v1.1

2009-02-16 Thread Alexander Smith
Murphy wrote: > Amend paragraph 5 of rule 869 to read: > > A player CAN deregister by announcement. A person CANNOT > register within thirty days after deregistering by any means > that e initiated with the clear intent of being deregistered. "I deregister by mistake." I wonder h

RE: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgements

2009-02-16 Thread Alexander Smith
comex wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > >> So the Bill is a changeable Proposal to change the Law. > >> And an Amendment is an unchangeable Proposal to change the Bill. > > > > This comes down on the anti- side. Neither a Bill nor an Amendment > > can be changed once th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgements

2009-02-16 Thread comex
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> So the Bill is a changeable Proposal to change the Law. >> And an Amendment is an unchangeable Proposal to change the Bill. > > This comes down on the anti- side. Neither a Bill nor an Amendment > can be changed once the process of voting on it

Re: DIS: When were a-o and a-b made Public Fora?

2009-02-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Taral wrote: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Sgeo wrote: >> Were the agoranomic.org mailing lists running before than, just with no >> records? > > Very much so. The lists used to be archived at escribe.com, which disappeared several years ago. I think agoranomic.org's archiving was only t

Re: DIS: reminder

2009-02-16 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > There are some judicial requirements which are currently overdue; in fact, > a few are getting to the point where in a few days the CotC will be late > to recuse the judges responsible. This is just a reminder to judges to > check ; it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Correction of Typos

2009-02-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> Except that rule 754 concerns "terminology and grammar." I would consider >> those to refer to the selection and definition of words, not a typo. > > There are several precedents in the case log (forgive me for not looking > them up ri

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Correction of Typos

2009-02-16 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > On 2009-02-15, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> Please disregard any other versions of this proposal. >> > Not a sufficient formal retraction. "Retract" is itself a gloss for "remove from the pool".

DIS: Re: BUS: (Attn Goethe) Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2382 assigned to woggle

2009-02-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: >> Thus, I hereby consent this CFJ to transfer this CFJ to H. Judge of >> CFJ 2380 Goethe (per R2164). > > I consent to the transfer. -Goethe This only works if you judge it in the same message.

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgements

2009-02-16 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > I had forgotten, previously, about R754(c), which suggests that we might > give weight to legal definitions. Leaving aside "document" (there are > amendable and non-amendable legal documents) and all the example's we've > used (text documents, messages, contracts et al.) let's t

DIS: RE: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009-02-16 Thread Alexander Smith
Taral wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Taral wrote: > >> Fri, 13 Feb 03:12:15 Wooble deregisters > > > > CoE: WHAT? > > Denied. I interpret "cease to play" as "deregister". R101 permits you > to cease to play, and deregistrati

DIS: Re: agora-official digest, Vol 1 #2456 - 2 msgs

2009-02-16 Thread Aaron Goldfein
Hey, what about me? I'm not listed as a player. -Yally

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009-02-16 Thread comex
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: > 2009/2/16 Geoffrey Spear : >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Taral wrote: >>> Fri, 13 Feb 03:12:15 Wooble deregisters >> >> CoE: WHAT? >> > > That is an _excellent_ scam. I don't think it's self-ratifying.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009-02-16 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/2/16 Geoffrey Spear : > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Taral wrote: >> Fri, 13 Feb 03:12:15 Wooble deregisters > > CoE: WHAT? > That is an _excellent_ scam.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009-02-16 Thread comex
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Taral wrote: >> Fri, 13 Feb 03:12:15 Wooble deregisters > > CoE: WHAT? I intend, without objection, to ratify that report.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Correction of Typos

2009-02-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: >> Not a sufficient formal retraction. > > ...although it might constitute an effective disclaimer of any > subsequent version of the proposal e tries to submit. AFAICT, no other version was proposed to the PF anyway.