DIS: Re: BUS: Appeals Errors

2009-02-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > Appeals Results of 2282a and 2322a were in error. By the new appeals court > Rule 911 adopted 12-Dec-08, the result of a failed consensus or time clock > runout is a platonic REMAND: > If the time period ends with no majority judgement, the panel > acts to deliver a ju

DIS: Re: BUS: Appeals Errors

2009-02-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > Appeals Results of 2282a and 2322a were in error. By the new appeals court > Rule 911 adopted 12-Dec-08, the result of a failed consensus or time clock > runout is a platonic REMAND: > If the time period ends with no majority judgement, the panel > acts to deliver a ju

Re: DIS: Partnerships + zombies = corporations?

2009-02-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: > I suppose the outcome isn't too bad if this is not treated as a > special case, a corporation owning a majority stake in itself would > effectively lock out action expect by means allowed by the > corporation's contract (assuming we allow that mechanism;

Re: DIS: Partnerships + zombies = corporations?

2009-02-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 18:00, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: >> Which reminds me, one needs to consider how to deal with a corporation >> owning its own shares. > > Manumission? When real corporations do this, it's to decrease the number of shares in circulation (

Re: DIS: Partnerships + zombies = corporations?

2009-02-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: > Which reminds me, one needs to consider how to deal with a corporation > owning its own shares. Manumission?

Re: DIS: Partnerships + zombies = corporations?

2009-02-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 17:12, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: >>>d. Key Power: *Any* shareholder (member or non member) may act >>>on behalf of the corporation with the support of [shareholders >>>adding up to a majority] Corporations CANNOT a

DIS: Re: BUS: FRContest catchup

2009-02-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > I pledge (any player CAN terminate this pledge if it has existed > for at least two weeks) to either (a) resolve all four of these > intents in the above order and get FRContest point awards caught > up between intents #2 and #3, or (b) not resolve any of the

Re: DIS: Partnerships + zombies = corporations?

2009-02-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: >>d. Key Power: *Any* shareholder (member or non member) may act >>on behalf of the corporation with the support of [shareholders >>adding up to a majority] Corporations CANNOT and SHALL NOT >>forbid non-members from so acting

Re: DIS: Partnerships + zombies = corporations?

2009-02-03 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 14:15, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Proto-proto: Zombies Incorporated. > > [The following would take enacting several mechanisms; e.g. shares, > auctions, maybe debts. Therefore soliciting expressions of interest > before continuing]. > > 1. Cleanup: All inactive, non-participa

DIS: Partnerships + zombies = corporations?

2009-02-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
Proto-proto: Zombies Incorporated. [The following would take enacting several mechanisms; e.g. shares, auctions, maybe debts. Therefore soliciting expressions of interest before continuing]. 1. Cleanup: All inactive, non-participating, or "scammy" partnerships are deregistered. "Useful

DIS: Re: BUS: Cassandra

2009-02-03 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > Oh well, peer pressure it is. (Could someone explain?) I'll change the > patent title, but not the proposal title. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Chutes and ladders

2009-02-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 09:58 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I see what you're doing with the indirection here (attempting to >> empower R1728 at power 3), but you haven't convinced me yet. The >> indirection doesn't remove the impossible nature of the task. >>

DIS: Re: BUS: NoVs, intents, nominations

2009-02-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Ridiculously strong words for someone who's just made emself > inactive and thus is unwilling to do the work emself. I didn't make myself inactive, I made myself supine and still hold an office.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Chutes and ladders

2009-02-03 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 09:58 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I see what you're doing with the indirection here (attempting to > empower R1728 at power 3), but you haven't convinced me yet. The > indirection doesn't remove the impossible nature of the task. > Take a close look at R2140: > No entit

DIS: Re: BUS: Chutes and ladders

2009-02-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, comex wrote: > I cause Rule 2238 to amend itself to read: > > ais523 CAN cause this rule to amend itself by announcement. > > comex CAN, with support, cause Rule 1728 to amend Rule 2141. > > comex CAN, with support, cause Rule 1728 to change the power of > t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement, CFJ 2358

2009-02-03 Thread Pavitra
On Monday 02 February 2009 10:06:43 Kerim Aydin wrote: > Wouldn't it be Canti Cygneus? (e.g. My swan song + your swan song > = our swan songs not our swans song). -Goethe It depends. Is each person who publishes a Cantus Cygneus a "swan" in the metaphor? If so, my swan's song + your swan's song

DIS: Re: BUS: Cassandra

2009-02-03 Thread comex
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > (h) Cassandra, to be awarded to any player who noticed a scam, > thought up a way to stop it, warned everyone clearly, and yet You need another 'and' in there.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Voting results for Proposal 6069, and scam

2009-02-03 Thread comex
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >> (h) Eagle-eyed, to be awarded to any player who noticed a scam, >> thought up a way to stop it, warned everyone clearly, and yet >> the scam happened anyway due

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Voting results for Proposal 6069, and scam

2009-02-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >> (h) Eagle-eyed, to be awarded to any player who noticed a scam, >> thought up a way to stop it, warned everyone clearly, and yet >> the scam happened anyway due to apathy on the part of other >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Voting results for Proposal 6069, and scam

2009-02-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > (h) Eagle-eyed, to be awarded to any player who noticed a scam, > thought up a way to stop it, warned everyone clearly, and yet > the scam happened anyway due to apathy on the part of other > players. I'd pre