Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread Warrigal
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:35 PM, comex wrote: > RFC: If Murphy submitted a long proposal titled "Cleanup of Power=1.5 > definitions" that would cause a rule to contain the text {Murphy CAN > cause this rule to amend itself by announcement}, that proposal would > pass. Dissenting opinion: I at lea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Resolving Grand Poobah election

2008-12-15 Thread Warrigal
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > If anyone thinks it worthwhile to maintain The List for the sole > purpose of zombifying my votes, and is willing to publish The List > weekly and encourage its use, I'd pay a salary of the right to spend > some of my notes on my behalf. Prior

DIS: Re: BUS: Undo the aftermath, take three

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > If a rule other than 2218 defines the Winning Condition of Solitude, > then repeal Rule 2218. Otherwise, amend it to read: Note that Rule 2218 cannot define Winning Conditions anyway, since its Power is only 1. (The proposal specified that it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Conductor] Lead Sheet

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > With criminal charges on > top of it, I'll probably just drop the whole thing and deregister. Just testing the new system :p

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Conductor] Lead Sheet

2008-12-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:34 PM, comex wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:12 PM, comex wrote: >> I publish a NoV accusing root of violating Rule 2143 by not publishing >> the Conductor's report last week (the week that ended an hour ago). >> I publish a NoV accusing root of violating Rule 2143 by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Undo the rest of 5956

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > 2282 may still be affirmed on appeal. But yes, for completeness: What does CFJ 2282 have to do with Rule 2218?

DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread comex
RFC: If Murphy submitted a long proposal titled "Cleanup of Power=1.5 definitions" that would cause a rule to contain the text {Murphy CAN cause this rule to amend itself by announcement}, that proposal would pass.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Undo the rest of 5956

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Proposal: Undo the rest of 5956 > > Amend Rule 2143 (Official Reports and Duties) by replacing each instance > of "role" with "office". This omits Rule 2218.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/12/15 Geoffrey Spear : > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> ehird wrote: >> >>> On 15 Dec 2008, at 23:04, Roger Hicks wrote: >>> I (serving as language police) transfer a prop from ehird to Murphy for a great Star Trek reference. >>> >>> I transfer a prop from BobT

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > ehird wrote: > >> On 15 Dec 2008, at 23:04, Roger Hicks wrote: >> >>> I (serving as language police) transfer a prop from ehird to Murphy >>> for a great Star Trek reference. >> >> I transfer a prop from BobTHJ to myself for using language >> (sp

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > On 15 Dec 2008, at 23:04, Roger Hicks wrote: > >> I (serving as language police) transfer a prop from ehird to Murphy >> for a great Star Trek reference. > > I transfer a prop from BobTHJ to myself for using language > (specifically, the word "language"). NttPF.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15 Dec 2008, at 23:04, Roger Hicks wrote: I (serving as language police) transfer a prop from ehird to Murphy for a great Star Trek reference. I transfer a prop from BobTHJ to myself for using language (specifically, the word "language").

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > On 15 Dec 2008, at 22:09, comex wrote: > >> How do you suppose? It's been judged that annotations don't work, and >> that the democratization did work; neither was appealed. We passed a >> useless scam proposal. > > Oh. > > Shit. Thank you, Mr. Data, that will be all.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15 Dec 2008, at 22:09, comex wrote: How do you suppose? It's been judged that annotations don't work, and that the democratization did work; neither was appealed. We passed a useless scam proposal. Oh. Shit.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Allow conversion of sentences

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > Well, I've been thrown to the wolves. Who wants to do the honor? You know you can avoid this by spending some coins.

DIS: Re: BUS: nomination

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I nominate myself as Rulekeepor. Sorry I'm behind; I'm very busy IRL.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 15 Dec 2008, at 18:00, Alex Smith wrote: > >> (Assuming you can't somehow leverage your dictatorship to stop it >> passing in the first place...) > > of course we can. How do you suppose? It's been judged that annotations don't work, and

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Resolving Grand Poobah election

2008-12-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 15 Dec 2008, at 15:23, Ed Murphy wrote: > >> I intend, without objection, to terminate The Zombie of The List, >> quoted below: > > I object, Warrigal may be reelected. If anyone thinks it worthwhile to maintain The List for the sole purpose of zombif

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15 Dec 2008, at 18:00, Alex Smith wrote: (Assuming you can't somehow leverage your dictatorship to stop it passing in the first place...) of course we can.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-15 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 12:14 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > > Also, it is a very bad idea to put SHOULDs into the rules which cause > > things other than players or people to carefully consider their actions. > > Interpretation is performed by people. > > > (I remember when I submitt

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 18:07 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: > > 6019 O 1 1.0 Murphy Undo the scam already > FOR x 5 ehird/comex, how much would you bribe me to cast AGAINSTx8 on this one? (Assuming you can't somehow leverage your dictatorship to stop it passing in the first place...) -- ais52

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Allow conversion of sentences

2008-12-15 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15 Dec 2008, at 17:25, comex wrote: Not only would the same require many more coins on eir part, if e breaks the Rules in any way whatsoever (say, by failing to publish a PBA report) anyone can deregister em by announcement. I did not publish a report last week. Well, I've been thrown to t

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Allow conversion of sentences

2008-12-15 Thread comex
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Proposal: Allow conversion of sentences > (AI = 3, please) To be fair, CHOKEY for an Epsilon is sort of a slap on the wrist-- the only effect is that the ninny's caste can't usefully be increased. For me, the new punishment is a reasonable com

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Resolving Grand Poobah election

2008-12-15 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15 Dec 2008, at 15:47, Ed Murphy wrote: Why are you objecting to this one in particular? It depends on the contract that Warrigal already terminated. If Warrigal recreates it it will reactivate.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Resolving Grand Poobah election

2008-12-15 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > On 15 Dec 2008, at 15:23, Ed Murphy wrote: > >> I intend, without objection, to terminate The Zombie of The List, >> quoted below: > > I object, Warrigal may be reelected. Why are you objecting to this one in particular? It depends on the contract that Warrigal already terminate

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Allow conversion of sentences

2008-12-15 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15 Dec 2008, at 15:36, Ed Murphy wrote: Proposal: Allow conversion of sentences Agora, systematically stripping away outlaws' rights since 2008

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Werewolves session #3 update

2008-12-15 Thread Ed Murphy
Warrigal wrote: > Can I participate despite my inactivity? Yes. There's an informal standing strategy of "in the absence of other evidence, lynch the inactive townspersons first", but those lynched according to this strategy in session #2 (Zefram and avpx) were also inactive in the ordinary-lang

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2008-12-15 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15 Dec 2008, at 14:02, Elliott Hird wrote: CFJ: I have some rests. Arguments: vi. Every person has the right to not be penalized more than once for any single action or inaction. First I was punished by the chokey, and now (for, uh, not being able to predict the future