DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2218 assigned to OscarMeyr

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Accordingly, I instruct the parties to the Russian Roulette contract to > modify the contract and obligations as necessary, and as soon as possible, > to ensure that disclosing the text of the obligations to a potential

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, comex wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok, but entering into the spirit of this argument, if one contract >> passes a value "valid FOR vote iff secret info = true" to another contract, >> then even *if* the conditional involve

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

comex wrote: > Also, I vote for Zefram. This makes 5 votes for Zefram.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yet more Werewolves cleanup

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a substantive difference, or is this just a style issue? "All townspersons" could possibly mean all of them collectively, I think. Or maybe not.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yet more Werewolves cleanup

Wooble wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> without circularity or paradox, from information reasonably >> available to all townspersons. > > "each townsperson"? Is there a substantive difference, or is this just a style issue?

DIS: Re: BUS: Yet more Werewolves cleanup

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > without circularity or paradox, from information reasonably > available to all townspersons. "each townsperson"?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Agoran Loan Service report

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess Agora doesn't exactly have an abundance of things to buy, does > it. Maybe I'll steal B Nomic's RPG stuff and turn it into a contest. In theory you can buy a caste increase with note credits or even a win with enough cr

DIS: Re: BUS: Yet more Werewolves cleanup

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > I intend (without member objection) to amend the Werewolves contract by > appending this text to section 3: One thing worth considering here and elsewhere: in contests where the contestmaster is neutral, some variation of "the contestmaster is the interpre

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Agoran Loan Service report

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I set the Interest Rate to 25 basis points. Are you happy yet? > > I just can't figure out what I might do with a loan if I were to take one. I guess Ago

DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

comex wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I initiate Werewolves session #2. The townspersons are root, Zefram, >> Wooble, ais523, ehird, Pavitra, avpx, comex, Quazie, and 0x44; with >> ten townspersons, there will be two werewolves. I do not specify

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote: > I'm of the view that it would be > unacceptable for the CotC to deliberately rotate the bench whilst > knowing there were standing players; that's effectively cheating, > breaking the rules for an advantage. I seem to be in a minority, though; > many nomic

DIS: Backed up judicial flow

It seems I currently have 5 cases assigned to me, 3 of which are overdue. I'll try to work through these tonight. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5946-5947

ais523 wrote: > On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 18:29 -0800, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: >> NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE > I vote as follows: >> 5946 D 1 3.0 Murphy Faster repair of botched AIs > AGAINST >> 5947 D 1 3.0 ais523 Balance of Power > FOR You already have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, comex wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Fourth: why is this any harder to deal with then a simple "I vote for >> all players who are werewolves?" or "I vote for player A if e is a >> werewolf" which is simply discarded as unc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 12:56 -0500, comex wrote: > Yesterday I was playing Monopoly with my brother and he loaned me some > money. Later in the game he asked for it back. The Monopoly rules > expressly forbid official loans, so by the rules of the game he > actually gave me mone for free; but I ga

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, comex wrote: > I would act differently in an Agoran Monopoly contest. Heh, well at least we choose the same example... but isn't a self- contained game like werewolves, that fundamentally depends on some secret info. more like monopoly, in that this kind of move rather spoils

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] This week's moderately difficult puzzles

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 07:36, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 06:56 -0500, Joshua Boehme wrote: >> Contestmaster ais523, what is the current membership of Enigma? > > the Left Hand, Murphy, root, Iammars, Wooble, Goethe, avpx, Zefram, > Pavitra, ais523, comex, Elysion

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ps. thank you for an illustration that it's useful to have equity to >> prevent contracts from being ruined by crap. > > The contract can easily specify that a vote consists of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fourth: why is this any harder to deal with then a simple "I vote for > all players who are werewolves?" or "I vote for player A if e is a > werewolf" which is simply discarded as unclear (I think?) Using an > AFO-level of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ps. thank you for an illustration that it's useful to have equity to > prevent contracts from being ruined by crap. The contract can easily specify that a vote consists of listing a single party's name with no conditionals

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] This week's moderately difficult puzzles

On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 09:34 -0800, Charles Reiss wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 07:36, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 06:56 -0500, Joshua Boehme wrote: > >> Contestmaster ais523, what is the current membership of Enigma? > > > > the Left Hand, Murphy, root, Iammar

DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Three separate hurdles: Fourth: why is this any harder to deal with then a simple "I vote for all players who are werewolves?" or "I vote for player A if e is a werewolf" which is simply discarded as unclear (I think?) Using an AFO-level of indirection

DIS: Re: BUS: Agoran Loan Service report

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I set the Interest Rate to 25 basis points. Are you happy yet? I just can't figure out what I might do with a loan if I were to take one. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, comex wrote: > I agree to the following contract with the AFO: > { > The AFO CAN act on comex's behalf to vote for a person in Werewolves > if and only if that person is a werewolf. > comex CAN terminate this contract by announcement. > } Three separate hurdles: 1. By what me

DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves session #2

On 12 Nov 2008, at 16:58, comex wrote: I agree to the following contract with the AFO: They have to be public. Anyway, way too ambiguous to work. -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Werewolves day phase status

On 12 Nov 2008, at 15:00, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I vote for Zefram too, for the same reason. There's also avpx and Quazie. The throwaway vote possibilities are endless! P.S. You should all cross-post to the B/Agora lists to make this simpler. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] This week's moderately difficult puzzles

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:36, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 06:56 -0500, Joshua Boehme wrote: >> Contestmaster ais523, what is the current membership of Enigma? > > the Left Hand, Murphy, root, Iammars, Wooble, Goethe, avpx, Zefram, > Pavitra, ais523, comex, Elysion

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] This week's moderately difficult puzzles

On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 15:36 +, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 06:56 -0500, Joshua Boehme wrote: > > Contestmaster ais523, what is the current membership of Enigma? > > the Left Hand, Murphy, root, Iammars, Wooble, Goethe, avpx, Zefram, > Pavitra, ais523, comex, Elysion, ehird, Sgeo,

DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] This week's moderately difficult puzzles

On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 06:56 -0500, Joshua Boehme wrote: > Contestmaster ais523, what is the current membership of Enigma? the Left Hand, Murphy, root, Iammars, Wooble, Goethe, avpx, Zefram, Pavitra, ais523, comex, Elysion, ehird, Sgeo, Billy Pilgrim -- ais523 Notary

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Werewolves day phase status

Wooble wrote: > Also, are there any non-Agoran B players in this contract, Not at this time.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Werewolves day phase status

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's also avpx and Quazie. The throwaway vote possibilities are endless! > > P.S. You should all cross-post to the B/Agora lists to make this simpler. yeah but if I vote for someone different there's less chance we'll a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: deputization

Wooble wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I already tried to pass 2234-35 to root so that they can be judged >> together with 2172. > > Well I believe it's too early for me to intend to recuse em from 2172. It is, but I can do it. I'll take care of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: deputization

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I already tried to pass 2234-35 to root so that they can be judged > together with 2172. Well I believe it's too early for me to intend to recuse em from 2172.

DIS: Re: BUS: deputization

Wooble wrote: > I intend to deputize for the CotC to recuse Murphy from CFJ 2235 with cause. I already tried to pass 2234-35 to root so that they can be judged together with 2172.

RE: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2246 judged FALSE by ais523

Goethe wrote: > Absurd. Where's the 'until' you claim in R101(iv)? > It's absolute. Ah, I interpreted it as "While a player has not had a reasonable chance to review a change to a contract, e is not bound to it." Your interpretation hadn't occured to me, but it's an interesting one... -- ais523 <

DIS: RE: [s-b] Prep for Werewolves session #2

Murphy wrote: > I agree to be bound by the Werewolves contract in B Nomic. Wooble, > ais523, ehird, comex, and 0x44, you should do likewise. I agree to and become bound to The Werewolves of Nomic Crossing. -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] This week's moderately difficult puzzles

On 12 Nov 2008, at 11:56, Joshua Boehme wrote: Contestmaster ais523, what is the current membership of Enigma? plus Warrigal. -- ais523 (Disclaimer: One or more claims of identity in this message may be false.)

DIS: Re: BUS: Initiation of Werewolves day phase

root wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The two werewolves have been informed of each other's identities. You >> may proceed with lynching attempts immediately. > > I nominate both werewolves for lynching. :-) Cute, but fails for multiple reasons: