Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2216-17 assigned to woggle

2008-10-19 Thread Ed Murphy
woggle wrote: > I judge both of these FALSE. It is difficult to determine who the mind NttPF. The judgements make sense, though; if another partnership stated "only partner X is responsible for Y", then it could effectively make agreements about Y without partners other than X having to be infor

DIS: Proto: Generalize switches

2008-10-19 Thread Ed Murphy
Proto-Proposal: Generalize switches (AI = 3, please) Amend Rule 2162 (Switches) by replacing this text: b) One or more possible values for instances of that switch, exactly one of which is designated as the default. No other values are possible for instances of that swit

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2216-17 assigned to woggle

2008-10-19 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 22:44, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I change all sitting players to standing. > > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2216 > > == CFJ 2216 == > >If only Murphy had been given the pa

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proto-Judgement of CFJ 2211

2008-10-19 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> comex wrote: >> >>> It is not against the best interests of the game to allow this crazy >>> forum to have been Public, because as far as I know the actions taken >>> in it while it was a Public Forum are well-k

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Contestmaster Points

2008-10-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having received no objections, I end the current session. For the > record, Quazie and comex were the werewolves, and root was the seer. Rats, I was only 50% right. -root

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proto-Judgement of CFJ 2211

2008-10-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > comex wrote: > >> It is not against the best interests of the game to allow this crazy >> forum to have been Public, because as far as I know the actions taken >> in it while it was a Public Forum are well-known. So I judge CFJ

Re: DIS: PBA question

2008-10-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:16 PM, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I disagree. There are multiple ways for a bank's assets to exceed its > liabilities; the liabilities going down in value is only one of them. > Assets going up in value and trades that increase assets more than > liabilities are

Re: DIS: PBA question

2008-10-19 Thread warrigal
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The number in circulation should be equal to the number required to > withdraw everything. If there are extra coins in circulation, the > excess are worthless. If there are insufficient coins in circulation, > then the coinho

Re: DIS: Proto-Judgement of CFJ 2211

2008-10-19 Thread comex
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I doubt that agoranomic.org is any less vulnerable than freenode to a > DoS attack. Your conclusion seems reasonable, though. I'm talking about flood control-- it only takes a few repeated messages to have freenode slow you d

Re: DIS: Proto-Judgement of CFJ 2211

2008-10-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:33 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although it is reasonable in theory for ais523 to intend to > cause fora changes in a report, e ought to have done it near the forum > section; sticking the intent in the registration history is > unreasonable. I would think it wo

Re: DIS: PBA question

2008-10-19 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19 Oct 2008, at 23:52, Ian Kelly wrote: The number in circulation should be equal to the number required to withdraw everything. If there are extra coins in circulation, the excess are worthless. If there are insufficient coins in circulation, then the coinholders have lost value. -root

Re: DIS: PBA question

2008-10-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The PBA itself currently has 142 coins... I think. > > Is it a good idea to distribute these among the members? > > I don't think so - it'd just mean that over time, everyone would get richer > and richer. > > That would be

DIS: Re: BUS: Paul Wellstone Mental Health and Addiction Equity Act of 2008

2008-10-19 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19 Oct 2008, at 21:20, comex wrote: Proposal: Paul Wellstone Mental Health and Addiction Equity Act of 2008 Amend the contract known as the Reformed Bank of Agora by setting the exchange rate of Coins to 0.1; furthermore, create 700,000,000,000 Coins in the possession of the Reform

DIS: Re: BUS: Marks

2008-10-19 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19 Oct 2008, at 21:03, comex wrote: I give 1 marks to the PBA. That's nice, but marks are not an Eligible Currency. -- ehird

DIS: PBA question

2008-10-19 Thread Elliott Hird
The PBA itself currently has 142 coins... I think. Is it a good idea to distribute these among the members? I don't think so - it'd just mean that over time, everyone would get richer and richer. That would be silly. However, making them be destroyed instead of transferred to the PBA requ

DIS: Proto-Judgement of CFJ 2211

2008-10-19 Thread comex
== CFJ 2211 == It is POSSIBLE to perform game actions via the #really-a-cow forum. There are two reasons why the outcome of this CFJ could be FALSE: either the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Deflating coins and inflating crops

2008-10-19 Thread Taral
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:13 AM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm afraid recordkeepors aren't allowed to ignore actions they don't > like. Sorry. They are allowed to set policies on interpretation of ambiguous or inconsistently-specified transfers. ehird has previously publicly stated this.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Deflating coins and inflating crops

2008-10-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 19 Oct 2008, at 18:10, Ed Murphy wrote: >> >> This should be standardized in the contract. > > I agree. We already have one piece of precedent, though, we agreed that this > did not > work (well, it wouldn't have the I

Re: DIS: Proto-contract: The Agoran Fast Food Society

2008-10-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:12 AM, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A Potato is any string whose SHA-523 hash I don't think I've heard of that one... -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: banking

2008-10-19 Thread Taral
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This works, you filthy traitor. Could always limit coin ownership to first-class entities. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Proto-contract: The Agoran Fast Food Society

2008-10-19 Thread warrigal
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:12 PM, warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Version 2: > > {This is a public contract known as The Agoran Fast Food Society. Oh, and let's not forget contestification. If this becomes a contest, we'll be able to have: "Any Artisan CAN by announcement destroy N Golden Ha

Re: DIS: Proto-contract: The Agoran Fast Food Society

2008-10-19 Thread warrigal
Version 2: {This is a public contract known as The Agoran Fast Food Society. Parties to this contract are known as Artisans. The Muckle is a person, originally Warrigal. If the Muckle is not an active player, or has been the Muckle for the last 30 days, any Artisan can cause any Artisan to become

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Deflating coins and inflating crops

2008-10-19 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > On 19 Oct 2008, at 17:13, ihope wrote: >> I'm afraid recordkeepors aren't allowed to ignore actions they don't >> like. Sorry. > > Actually, I have previously stated that it is a safeguard mechanism > for people, and I > treat "X (this gives me Y)" as not fundamentally different

DIS: Re: BUS: I want to do this when I grow up: a CFJ

2008-10-19 Thread Ed Murphy
warrigal wrote: > I CFJ on the statement "These two sentences are one statement. These > two sentences are not one statement." Ineffective. See CFJ 1266.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Deflating coins and inflating crops

2008-10-19 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19 Oct 2008, at 17:13, ihope wrote: I'm afraid recordkeepors aren't allowed to ignore actions they don't like. Sorry. Actually, I have previously stated that it is a safeguard mechanism for people, and I treat "X (this gives me Y)" as not fundamentally different to "X. This gives me Y."

Re: DIS: Proto-contract: The Agoran Fast Food Society

2008-10-19 Thread warrigal
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 18 October 2008 12:13:21 pm ihope wrote: >> The Quota is a positive integer, initially 30. If more than 30 >> Potatoes have been Fried in the last 30 days, then the Muckle CAN >> increment the Quota by 1, and SHALL d

Re: DIS: Proto-contract: The Agoran Fast Food Society

2008-10-19 Thread comex
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1:30:081019:"date 17 oct 2008 - dow 8,975.35 - muckle muckle - quota > 30 - integer 0"::br/cp4KdhA5UpRvV:eUZlp '(integer = 1; quota = 30; muckle; date = 19 October 2008) O" L$ ' (not including single quotes)

Re: DIS: Proto-contract: The Agoran Fast Food Society

2008-10-19 Thread comex
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1:30:081019:"date 17 oct 2008 - dow 8,975.35 - muckle muckle - quota > 30 - integer 0"::br/cp4KdhA5UpRvV:eUZlp 0 is not a positive integer...

Re: DIS: Proto-contract: The Agoran Fast Food Society

2008-10-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pavitra wrote: > >> 1:30:081019:"date 17 oct 2008 - dow 8,975.35 - muckle muckle - quota >> 30 - integer 0"::br/cp4KdhA5UpRvV:eUZlp > > Am I missing something? I fed that to http://hash-it.net/ and the > SHA-1 hash onl

Re: DIS: Proto-contract: The Agoran Fast Food Society

2008-10-19 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > 1:30:081019:"date 17 oct 2008 - dow 8,975.35 - muckle muckle - quota > 30 - integer 0"::br/cp4KdhA5UpRvV:eUZlp Am I missing something? I fed that to http://hash-it.net/ and the SHA-1 hash only started with 7 zeroes. (And http://www.hashemall.com/ came up with something

Re: DIS: Proto-contract: The Agoran Fast Food Society

2008-10-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 18 October 2008 11:50:30 pm Pavitra wrote: >> On Saturday 18 October 2008 12:13:21 pm ihope wrote: >> > The Quota is a positive integer, initially 30. If more than 30 >> > Potatoes have been Fried in the last 30 days