Re: [agi] The Implications

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024, 5:10 PM John Rose wrote: > It helps to know this: > > https://www.quantamagazine.org/in-highly-connected-networks-theres-always-a-loop-20240607/ > > Proof: > https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.06603 > I give up. What are the implications? The Hamiltonian circuit problem is NP comp

Re: [agi] Internal Time-Consciousness Machine (ITCM)

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024, 12:40 AM Nanograte Knowledge Technologies < nano...@live.com> wrote: > In your opinion then, consciousness cannot yet be defined properly, but > you know for certain that there is no such a thing as a kind of life after > death, or a soul that leaves earth, even forever? > >

Re: [agi] Internal Time-Consciousness Machine (ITCM)

You're confirming that you believe as you believe, providing your version of evidence that everything we observe is relative. You're also asserting how absolute truth cannot exist. This is the conscious you communicating with us. Yet, you believe that a poor excuse for an intelligent machine has

Re: [agi] Internal Time-Consciousness Machine (ITCM)

PS: That was in response to Matt Mahoney's rather interesting reply. From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2024 21:06 To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] Internal Time-Consciousness Machine (ITCM) You're confirming that you believe as you believ

Re: [agi] Internal Time-Consciousness Machine (ITCM)

The problems with using 'consciousness' in your design somehow are manifold. First of all it is notoriously difficult to define in humans. We had a meetup event with a writeup featuring a practically unlimited number of definitions. But then if you GO FURTHER and then apply it to your machine, th

Re: [agi] Internal Time-Consciousness Machine (ITCM)

Remember that Turing was not setting intelligence as the goal for AI. He was answering the philosophical question "can machines think?" He needed a reasonable definition of "think" that was appropriate for computers. GPT-4 won the imitation game 54% of the time, above his proposed threshold of 30%.

Re: [agi] Internal Time-Consciousness Machine (ITCM)

Let's redefine "thinking" then, and pay workers accordingly. https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/06/17/1093740/what-happened-when-20-comedians-got-ai-to-write-their-routines/ [https://wp.technologyreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/the-hook2c.jpg?resize=1200,600]

Re: [agi] Internal Time-Consciousness Machine (ITCM)

Re: Consciousness. First, it has to be rationalized. The term consciousness appeared after the original term, intuit, which denotes thinking, articulated reasoning, relative recognizing, comprehending, insight, dreaming (including pilgrimaging), advanced knowledge, and so forth. In other words,

Re: [agi] GPT-4 passes the Turing test

On Monday, June 17, 2024, at 4:54 PM, John Rose wrote: > I know, I know that we could construct a test that breaks the p-zombie > barrier. Using text alone though? Maybe not. Unless we could somehow makes > our brains not serialize language but simultaneously multi-stream symbols... > gotta be a