Re: [AFMUG] VM ware

2024-10-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, I know nothing about virtualization. But if you’re a Linux shop, apparently there’s an open source VM environment called Incus. I virtually (pun intended) never hear of it, so I assume it isn’t that popular. I only know about it because I used to have Sun Cobalt server appliances and t

Re: [AFMUG] VM ware

2024-10-28 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Proxmox. I won't spew my hate toward Broadcom because most of them don't have anything to do with vm servers. On Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 7:30 PM Chuck wrote: > > Broadcom does not recognize our perpetual license. Anyone have a > solution? Proxmox. Xen. Really like to not have to do this. > > --

Re: [AFMUG] VM ware

2024-10-28 Thread Chuck
I presume we did. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2024, at 7:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Did you save your keys somewhere? > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2024 8:29 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] VM ware > > > Broadcom

Re: [AFMUG] OT movie

2024-10-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is there anything that didn’t originate at Xerox PARC? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_NoteTaker It seems like they came up with the ideas that made other people rich. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, October 28, 2024 11:38 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subje

Re: [AFMUG] OT movie

2024-10-28 Thread Bill Prince
Xerox PARC was good at everything except making money. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 10:06 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Is there anything that didn’t originate at Xerox PARC? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_NoteTaker > > > > It seems like they came up with the idea

Re: [AFMUG] nerds and tact filters

2024-10-28 Thread dmmoffett
That's pretty insightful. A psychologist today would probably frame in the autism spectrum, and the two camps would be called "neurotypical" and "neurodivergent", but otherwise it would be pretty much the same advice. The tact filter is probably more intuitive, and it doesn't give the impression t

Re: [AFMUG] VM ware

2024-10-28 Thread Josh Luthman
I've seen most people run over to Proxmox. AT&T just got a temporary restraining order out of the court to keep Broadcom from screwing them short term. On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 9:30 PM Chuck wrote: > > Broadcom does not recognize our perpetual license. Anyone have a > solution? Proxmox. Xen.

[AFMUG] OT movie

2024-10-28 Thread chuck
That reminds me, I watched a Netflix documentary last night about Compaq. Basically the story behind Halt and Catch Fire. Well worth seeing. Silicon Cowboys I think. I was trying to explain to my wife about the team that saw the bios source code and how they could not pollute the other guy

Re: [AFMUG] VM ware

2024-10-28 Thread Robert
When you have to sue your provider, get some time to move on.  Broadcom is going to kill the goose.. On 10/28/24 5:34 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: I've seen most people run over to Proxmox. AT&T just got a temporary restraining order out of the court to keep Broadcom from screwing them short term.

Re: [AFMUG] VM ware

2024-10-28 Thread Matt Hopkins
XCP-NG + XenOrchestra has been running great in production for many years now. On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 7:38 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Broadcom has a strange history. I remember in the late 1990s attending > ANSI standards meetings with “the 2 Henrys” who founded Broadcom. Back > then, they were j

Re: [AFMUG] VM ware

2024-10-28 Thread Bill Prince
VMware has been through some stuff. From where I sit, they have excelled at making products that all sound alike, and that not many people can explain the differences. They have also been acquired quite a few times. They have always been expensive; especially considering that most of their portfoli

Re: [AFMUG] OT movie

2024-10-28 Thread chuck
I wonder if it is OK to copy BIOS for your own personal use (I ask 30 years after relevancy...) From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, October 28, 2024 10:38 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT movie I remember the story, but not the details beyond the clean room develop

Re: [AFMUG] OT movie

2024-10-28 Thread Bill Prince
I remember the story, but not the details beyond the clean room development. Curiously, I worked for Compaq for a time after they purchased the company I worked for at the time (Tandem (*NOT Tandy*, But Tandem; the people who made the original NonStop computer systems). There was quite the culture

Re: [AFMUG] nerds and tact filters

2024-10-28 Thread Steve Jones
Im just out here tryina be a dick, and this guys saying just cause im also a nerd its not my fault. f that guy On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 12:53 PM wrote: > That’s pretty insightful. A psychologist today would probably frame in > the autism spectrum, and the two camps would be called “neurotypical”

Re: [AFMUG] OT movie

2024-10-28 Thread dmmoffett
I’m positive I heard about that reverse engineering method in relation to Compaq’s BIOS. They had to be sure to duplicate everything the IBM BIOS did so they could guarantee 100% compatibility, but could not risk even the appearance of copying source code. If anything ended up the same it woul

Re: [AFMUG] nerds and tact filters

2024-10-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
Post inbound tact filter: “Steve needs a hug”. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, October 28, 2024 12:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] nerds and tact filters Im just out here tryina be a dick, and this guys saying just cause im also a nerd it

Re: [AFMUG] VM ware

2024-10-28 Thread Dennis Burgess - LTI Support via AF
We migrated to Hyper-V, not doing anything with Broadcom.. Just a big money grab.. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2024 8:29 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] VM ware Broadcom does not recognize our perpetual license. Anyone have a sol

Re: [AFMUG] VM ware

2024-10-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
Broadcom has a strange history. I remember in the late 1990s attending ANSI standards meetings with “the 2 Henrys” who founded Broadcom. Back then, they were just regular guys, not billionaires. My recollection is one of them, I think Henry Nicholas, was at PairGain and developed an in-hou

Re: [AFMUG] VM ware

2024-10-28 Thread Trey Scarborough
The perpetual licenses were aged out by versioning them out of support. So most likely your perpetual licenses are for unsupported versions. You can still run it if you have the keys and can get a install iso. I would recommend moving it over to Proxmox if your server is still running there is