I wonder if it is OK to copy BIOS for your own personal use (I ask 30 years 
after relevancy...)



From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2024 10:38 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT movie

I remember the story, but not the details beyond the clean room development. 

Curiously, I worked for Compaq for a time after they purchased the company I 
worked for at the time (Tandem (NOT Tandy, But Tandem; the people who made the 
original NonStop computer systems). There was quite the culture class between 
Tandem and Compaq; there were many terms and phrases that both companies used 
that meant completely different things.

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On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 8:39 AM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

  That reminds me, I watched a Netflix documentary last night about Compaq.  
Basically the story behind Halt and Catch Fire.  Well worth seeing.  Silicon 
Cowboys I think.  

  I was trying to explain to my wife about the team that saw the bios source 
code and how they could not pollute the other guys working on software to keep 
a clean separation of copy infringment potentiality.  Does anyone remember the 
court case where one team was segregated and saw the IP and wrote a spec that 
another team used to create new software.  Seems to me it was Lotus v Twin, but 
it could have been Phoenix Bios v IBM.  I really think it was BIOS related.  

  BIOS was so easy to copy back in the day.  


  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2024 8:37 AM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VM ware

  Broadcom has a strange history.  I remember in the late 1990s attending ANSI 
standards meetings with “the 2 Henrys” who founded Broadcom.  Back then, they 
were just regular guys, not billionaires.



  My recollection is one of them, I think Henry Nicholas, was at PairGain and 
developed an in-house fabless semiconductor design organization with innovative 
tools that could basically compile a modem chip from a list of specs.  Today we 
would probably call it AI.  He wanted PairGain to go into the chip design 
business and sell services to other customers but they didn’t want to do that, 
so he and his mentor from UCLA formed their own company.



  Looks like the company is owned by a bunch of private equity companies today. 
 All they see is dollar signs.  As somebody already pointed out, if they are 
screwing over their giant customers, the little guys have no chance.



  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2024 7:35 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VM ware



  I've seen most people run over to Proxmox.



  AT&T just got a temporary restraining order out of the court to keep Broadcom 
from screwing them short term.



  On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 9:30 PM Chuck <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:


    Broadcom does not recognize our  perpetual license.  Anyone have a 
solution?  Proxmox. Xen.  Really like to not have to do this.

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