I would add that every phone company in business is being
pressured to know spam/nuisance calls from all others. So if part
of your business is understanding which numbers are legit, and
which aren't, then you have a massive incentive to identify all
the
Telcos have always owned all their data, to do with as they please. They can
also legally listen to you as well.
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> On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:41 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
>
>
> Google just searched your phone and made a record that you called a business,
> a specific business. Th
Somewhere along the lines you accepted that TOS, even if it was the one you
accepted when you turned on the phone.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 9:51 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Telcos have always owned all their data, to do with as they please. They
> can also legally listen to you as well.
>
> Se
I think it is just a fundamental fact of commerce. Both sides of every
transaction own the documents and information created by the transaction.
Unless you sign your rights away.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 9:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFM
Google is not a telco and therefore should not have any of the
privileges of a telco. A telco cannot resell your phone call history.
Your phone call history requires a court order to get access to. I
think Google is just being Russian: belligerently doing what they
damn-well want to until co
That is debatable. They are an MVNO with Google Fi, and they also
provide VoIP with Google Voice.
They may not be a "telco" in the strictest definition, but they
are most certainly a telco service provider. Not a huge leap from
one to the other.
Never said they could sell the data, just free to use the data. But that
applies to all commerce.
From: Jan-GAMs
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 12:36 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did you just call a business?
Google is not a telco and therefore should not have any of the priv
Irrespective, you are free to use any data you collect on your customers.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:16 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did you just call a business?
That is debatable. They are an MVNO with Google Fi, and they also provide VoIP
with Google
There are also roundabout ways of "selling" the data, or at least elements
of it.
On Saturday, March 12, 2022, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Never said they could sell the data, just free to use the data. But that
> applies to all commerce.
>
> *From:* Jan-GAMs
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2022
I just received my first SpaceX PCNs. They have 71 different azimuth
numbers listed in a 18ghz PCN, are they paying the FCC fees for each of
these? I haven't seen a PCN like this before, I actually didn't know you
could use 18ghz for this application.
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Are they evenly spaced?
I don't think I've looked close enough at a pcn to see if elevation (angle
above horizon) is specified.
Makes me wonder if the PCN is set up with that many beams to coordinate a
link that could be pointed in any direction.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 2:45 PM Jason McKemie <
j.m
Whatever PCN they have to file, it has to be unique relative to
fixed-position transceivers. I have no idea how they chose to
handle this. Interesting they are using 18 GHz; Down here in the
dense air world, I would not expect 18 GHz to reliably go more
than 10 mi
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