Never said they could sell the data, just free to use the data.  But that 
applies to all commerce.  

From: Jan-GAMs 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 12:36 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did you just call a business?

Google is not a telco and therefore should not have any of the privileges of a 
telco.  A telco cannot resell your phone call history.  Your phone call history 
requires a court order to get access to.  I think Google is just being Russian: 
belligerently doing what they damn-well want to until congress makes a specific 
law against such activity.  Tapping phone-lines is illegal without a court 
order, I'm not sure if that law was updated to include wireless cell calls.  
Anyway, wanting to know if that last call was to a business is crossing some 
serious privacy red-lines that should exist.


On 3/11/22 22:31, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

  Umm.....  hasn't pretty much every phone company, and particularly cell phone 
companies, been doing this for years?   The private enterprise keeping records 
part that is. 

  This seems more like an attempt by Google to verify business phone numbers, 
possibly to help improve caller ID and search.   I suspect this is more of a 
situation where they look up the number you just called and if it matches a 
business number they need to verify is correct they prompt you. 

  In other words, it's croudsourcing data, not building a database to track who 
you've been calling.    Not saying they aren't doing the latter as well for 
some percieved business purpose as they very well could be doing that as well. 




  On Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 7:42 PM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:

    Google just searched your phone and made a record that you called a 
business, a specific business.  The fact that they knew it was a business must 
imply they know the other phones you called earlier were not businesses.  This 
doesn't bother you that a private enterprise is keeping records on who you call 
without a court order?

    I feel this crosses a line into privacy invasion.  Just because you can do 
it, doesn't mean you should.




    On 3/11/22 18:24, Mike Hammett wrote:

      I see it.

      It seems like a reasonable step to shore up data quality.




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      Intelligent Computing Solutions

      Midwest Internet Exchange

      The Brothers WISP






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      Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 8:22:41 PM
      Subject: [AFMUG] Did you just call a business?

      How many of you get that message after dialing a business on your android?

      When I see that message I feel violated.  How about you?


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