Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread David Coudron
Thanks Colin, I think the diameter of the silo will probably rule these out. It looks like it would be a great option for silos with smaller diameters, but the ones we are working with are 30-40 ft in diameter. The banding might be an option, but it will be tough to get around the top of th

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
We haven’t done it, but other WISPs in the area typically put Rohn 25G sections next to the silo attached to the bands. If necessary, they extend the tower above the top of the silo. I think there have been threads in the past where people posted photos of how they attached to the bands. The

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Weld to the bands? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2020, at 3:28 AM, David Coudron > wrote: > >  > Thanks Colin, > > I think the diameter of the silo will probably rule these out. It looks > like it would be a great option for silos with smaller diameters, but the > ones we are working

Re: [AFMUG] drop splicers

2020-10-07 Thread fiberrun
I have one of those SignalFire fusion splicers. They are sold all over the place by different vendors and different brand names. In short, it works and it does what it says on the tin. It can be a bit fiddly and annoying at times, but it gets the job done. Main annoyances: - no removable fiber

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread David Coudron
Not a bad idea, we hadn’t thought of that one. The silo owners might be nervous about that, but it shouldn’t put any noticeable metal fatigue on the bands due to welding. We’ll ask about that. You don’t have any tower mounts that clamp down to ¾” in diameter do you? Clamping around it and

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread Chuck McCown
I don’t have anything that will clamp that small but I have seen unistrut hung off of rod clamps by electricians. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2020, at 6:05 AM, David Coudron > wrote: > >  > Not a bad idea, we hadn’t thought of that one. The silo owners might be > nervous about that, b

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Google this: Parallel Beam Clamp, 3/4 in., 316 SS, Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2020, at 6:05 AM, David Coudron > wrote: > >  > Not a bad idea, we hadn’t thought of that one. The silo owners might be > nervous about that, but it shouldn’t put any noticeable metal fatigue on the > band

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread Chuck McCown
I choose moderation in all things. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >  > The medal hanging in the center of Star Trek Q's chest appears to be a sheep. > Oddly relevant. The shepherd known as QAnon convinces his sheep that > they're the enlightened one

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread Adam Moffett
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Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread Brian Webster
This discussion came up a few years ago and I am not sure it was on this list or not. A WISP had actually had some brackets made up for this exact purpose. As I recall they brackets clamped on to a few rings to spread the load and there was a vertical member that was used to attach a pip to. The

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread chuck
If you own everything it is not a problem. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 7:58 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal On 10/6/2020 3:20 PM, John Osmon wrote: On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 02:20:24PM -0600, ch...@wbmfg.com wr

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread chuck
Tighten the beam clamp to the strap. Then use a connecting nut on the protruding bolt: https://www.homedepot.com/pep/Hillman-1-4-20-Stainless-Coupling-Nut-8-Pack-45132/204775435?cm_mmc=Shopping-BA-F_Test-G-D25H-25_3_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-Fasteners_PLA_GMT-7170069206243-5876141909

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread Bill Prince
Only moderate fascism. Only moderate pedophilia. Only moderate cannibalism. Only moderate shooting. Only moderate black lives. bp On 10/7/2020 6:54 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I choose moderation in all things.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread chuck
Well, pedophilia amongst children is probably OK. Moderate shootings with bean bag projectiles can be OK. Moderate cannibalism is OK when your airplane crashes in the Andes or you get snowed in by Truckee. Moderate fascism is totally OK in Russia it appears. I like moderate black lives. Fro

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread Brian Webster
Isn’t it Lent? Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:00 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal Well, pedophilia amongst children

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread Adam Moffett
Hyperbole is a loophole just like the way fish doesn't count as meat. On 10/7/2020 11:13 AM, Brian Webster wrote: Isn’t it Lent? Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread James Howard
Based on the stuff for sale at Costco, I’d say it’s closer to Christmas than Easter….. From: AF On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:13 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal Isn’t it Lent? Thank you, Brian Webster www.wireless

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread chuck
Sometimes we just can’t help ourselves... From: Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:13 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal Isn’t it Lent? Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread Carl Peterson
You would be better off replacing the bolt with a longer one that goes through a piece of angle iron. Two clamps per angle iron then a U bolt in the center between clamps. Two of these per mount (on different hoops) with a 2-3/8 HDG pipe clamped in the U bolts. On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 9:47 AM wr

[AFMUG] OT Important information

2020-10-07 Thread chuck
https://youtu.be/3VoeRAR0YgE-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread John Osmon
If you hang them all, you get the guilty. (Appologies to Tom T. Hall) On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 08:39:37AM -0600, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > If you own everything it is not a problem. > > -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, > October 7, 2020 7:58 AM To: af@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread chuck
Similar to shoot them all and let God sort them out. -Original Message- From: John Osmon Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:12 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal If you hang them all, you get the guilty. (Appologies to Tom T. Hall) O

Re: [AFMUG] OT Important information

2020-10-07 Thread Robert
That really sucks.. On 10/7/20 9:00 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: https://youtu.be/3VoeRAR0YgE -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Important information

2020-10-07 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Pretty sure that guy is full of shit. On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 12:27 PM Robert wrote: > That really sucks.. > > On 10/7/20 9:00 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > https://youtu.be/3VoeRAR0YgE > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF m

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread Steve Jones
I'm not opposed to cannibalism. I think it would take a little time to get beyond the source of the meat, but I would bet, with as fat as we are we are pretty flavorful. I think it be best to eat people now, while we are tender, than after some disaster as a last resort when everybody is all string

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythia Must inhale the vapors. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 12:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal I'm not opposed to cannibalism. I think it would take a little time to get

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread Adam Moffett
"Herodotus , writing in the fifth century BC, describes the Pythia speaking indactylic hexameters .^[11] ^[12]

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
I would listen to his prophecies before Q. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 12:51 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal " Herodotus, writing in the fifth century BC, describes the Pythia spe

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread David Coudron
This is very helpful. Looks like what we’ll have to do. These are flat staves, and our concern is the lack of space between the band and the cement stave. We are looking at some of the beam mentioned in this thread, it looks like we will be able to find something in there. Thanks, David

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread Mathew Howard
These are the beam clamps I normally use: https://www.garvinindustries.com/jfc-3816 With flat staves, they tend to not sit quite as far onto the bands as I'd like, but it does work, and we've had dozens of them hanging on that type of silos for years with no issues. The parallel beam clamps Chuck m

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread David Coudron
HI folks, Just wanted to take a quick moment to thank everyone for the quick and incredibly useful information.The solution talked about here will certainly work for our purpose. We are continually humbled by the depth of knowledge and willingness to share on this list. Much appreciated,

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos

2020-10-07 Thread chuck
May the Farm be with you... From: David Coudron Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 3:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to Cement Stave Silos HI folks, Just wanted to take a quick moment to thank everyone for the quick and incredibly useful information.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread castarritt
Moderate Lent On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 10:14 AM Brian Webster wrote: > Isn’t it Lent? > > > > Thank you, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:00 AM > *To:* AnimalFar

Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal

2020-10-07 Thread Steve Jones
So I've been giving it thought. If you were in a survival scenario, plane crash, insurrection, aliens, whatever and had to resort to cannibalism, if it were your job to be the hunter. Would you tell your people you were feeding them other people? Or just tell them you captured a cat or something an