I choose moderation in all things.

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> On Oct 7, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> The medal hanging in the center of Star Trek Q's chest appears to be a sheep. 
>  Oddly relevant.  The shepherd known as QAnon convinces his sheep that 
> they're the enlightened ones and the non-believers are the real sheep.  
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> I know some of you are more worried about the left wing radicals who need to 
> battle fascism and white supremacists which actually exist in the US only in 
> scattered hundreds with no political or cultural relevance. The right wing 
> ones frighten the hell out of me with their need to battle the pedophile 
> cannibals who are completely imaginary.  A lot of people on both of these 
> wings imagine that the silent majority secretly supports them.   I think the 
> silent majority is silent for the same reason you silently ignore a raving 
> street preacher.  Meanwhile a lot of politicians have noted that the loud and 
> crazy people are more motivated to vote.   
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> Actual policy discussion becomes mired in the craziness.  "Oh you like free 
> markets?  Must be a white supremacist."  
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> "Oh you're concerned the American police resort to violence more often than 
> those in other countries.  You're a pawn of the pedophile cannibal cabal."  
> Interesting times.  
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> On 10/6/2020 6:26 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
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>> From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 5:23:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal
>> 
>> Q is the supposed "leader" of Qanon. Personally, I think there is probably 
>> more than one Q, and they may or may not coordinate their message(s). I 
>> think they could be more effective if they weren't so out and out bonkers. 
>> Eat babies? really?
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>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> On 10/6/2020 10:58 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> is that a real conspiracy?
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>> My wife had a friend over the other day, first time I ever met a real Q 
>> believer. weird shit. is Q not the same as Qanon? cause Qanon I always 
>> thought was just some guy that posted vague stuff and was supposedly in the 
>> administration. Q people think the rich eat babies and some lady who just 
>> had a miscarriage, cristy tegan or something, uses the code pizza, for 
>> little girls and always instagrams about pizza. weird shit
>> 
>> I think HOAs operate on different rules, since its a "voluntary" entry into 
>> them. Ive never looked too deep into it cause id never be in one, id put an 
>> air hose up my back first. but the contracts must give up a great deal of 
>> private property rights including waiving otard stuff
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>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:23 AM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>> Google uses low frequency brain stimulation..  Whenever you use their 
>>> browser and the volume isn't turned off.
>>> 
>>> On 10/6/20 7:15 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>> Messaging is king of all I suppose.
>>> 
>>> If you were Google, people would believe that you magically give it away 
>>> for free.  Since you're not Google they'll assume some kind of robbery or 
>>> graft.  I don't know how Google pulls off that kind of public relations 
>>> coup.
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>>> On 10/6/2020 10:06 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>> But it is free!  Comes with HOA dues.  Such a deal.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Oct 6, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> If I was in charge of laws, they wouldn't be so legalistic.  
>>> 
>>> You don't have exclusivity per se, but in de facto nobody will buy anything 
>>> else when they're already forced to pay you whether they like it or not.  
>>> They'd have to actively hate you before they'll even consider something 
>>> else.  You'd have to steal their birthdays before they consider another 
>>> option, and you'd have to violate their daughters before they're willing to 
>>> pay what the installation of the other option will actually cost.
>>> 
>>> .....that doesn't make it a bad deal for you, of course.  Competitors will 
>>> cry foul because you can make money and they can't, but that doesn't mean 
>>> they wouldn't do the same thing if they could.
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>>> On 10/5/2020 8:05 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
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>>> We don’t have exclusivity, we just have a service included in HOA fees.  
>>> They can have any service provider they want.
>>> But the service provider will have to do an overbuild into a saturated 
>>> area.  I would bet they will not do it. 
>>>  
>>> From: Mark Radabaugh
>>> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 5:52 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Royalty deal
>>>  
>>> https://www.keglerbrown.com/publications/mdus-vs-the-fcc-exclusivity-service-agreements-with-cable-and-internet-providers/
>>> https://www.nexttv.com/news/fcc-bans-exclusive-mdu-deals-296566
>>> FCC Bans Exclusivity Contracts — HOA Law Blog — February 
>>> ...www.hoalawblog.com › fcc_bans_exclusivity_contracts
>>>  
>>> Pay your money and take your chances
>>>  
>>> Mark
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>>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Lots of companies doing these deals.  MDU, subdivisions.  What would be 
>>> illegal about it?  The homeowners are free to go after any service they 
>>> want, but they are locked into my service.  This has been litigated at the 
>>> CATV level years ago and was found legal. 
>>>  
>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 2:28 PM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>>>> I think you are going to find that arrangement is highly illegal from an 
>>>> FCC standpoint.   When the deal gets blown out by the next company that 
>>>> sues you and the HOA over it, is it going to be worth your time and 
>>>> investment?
>>>>  
>>>> Mark
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>>>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I am getting some traction with developers for my fiber.  They want me to 
>>>> come in, they will put the subscription to my service as part of the HOA 
>>>> fees.  They will not let others in the ditch.  All for 10% of the gross.  
>>>> So I get 100% take rate.  I am not unhappy with the deal.  But I am 
>>>> wondering about agreeing to a perpetual royalty.  Anyone else done one of 
>>>> these deals?
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