Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz

2019-05-29 Thread dave
If a budget is in question take a look at the cambium PTP820C. Competition to Aviat for sure. Turn up dual core and use xpic get 1.2Gbs both ways I have 3 links If u used to link planner then too easy for design and submission to your fave distributor. On 5/25/19 4:02 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wro

Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz

2019-05-29 Thread dave
There is chatter in the wood about a combiner for the 820c to carry 60Ghz carrier and push 10Gbs On 5/25/19 9:46 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Most of my shots would 3-4 miles min.  1 mile would be rare for me. Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] Strange case: elevated water tank near tower causing reflection, ABAB reuse issue?

2019-05-29 Thread dave
I would have a look at your Downtilt and AZ towards water tank. May need to shift sectors left or right to over come the tank. Think about light and if everything reflective was white and all empty space was dark. (RF GOGGLE THEORY) LOL On 5/24/19 11:34 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: I have a stran

Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz

2019-05-29 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Sadly, no L1 aggregation Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: [https://image.ibb.co/ctQ7jU/aeronet-logo.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png] [https://image.ibb.co/e4pBB9/fb-logo.

Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz

2019-05-29 Thread Joe Novak
There can be chatter, but until there is a actual product does it actually exist? ;) On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 8:21 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Sadly, no L1 aggregation > > > > *Gino* > *Villarini *Founder/President > @gvillarini > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 > m: > [image: aeronet-logo]

Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz

2019-05-29 Thread Chuck McCown
Depends on how the Utah case goes with Frontier. Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2019, at 6:33 AM, dave wrote: > > If a budget is in question take a look at the cambium PTP820C. > Competition to Aviat for sure. > Turn up dual core and use xpic get 1.2Gbs both ways > I have 3 links > > If u u

Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz

2019-05-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
Oh, great, now you’re getting product advice from Frontier? Let’s also check with Captain Peter “Wrongway” Peachfuzz from Rocky and Bullwinkle. I remember a decision theory class where the prof said even someone who is always wrong could provide useful advice. If there were only 2 choices,

Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz

2019-05-29 Thread Bill Prince
Speaking of peach fuzz... https://zomgcandy.com/maynards-fuzzy-peach/ bp On 5/29/2019 6:55 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Oh, great, now you’re getting product advice from Frontier?  Let’s also check

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Daniel White
The hosting facility is having issues with viruses or something is what I thought I saw on Facebook Daniel White Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 Facebook icon LinkedIn icon

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Josh Baird
I think it may be time to find a new host. On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:31 AM Daniel White wrote: > The hosting facility is having issues with viruses or something is what I > thought I saw on Facebook > > > Daniel White > Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations > dir

Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz

2019-05-29 Thread chuck
Well, if the adversarial customer reports all is well with their Frontier circuit after the switch to Aviat that is not a bad thing... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 7:55 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz Oh, great, now you’re getting pr

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/29/19 08:29, Daniel White wrote: The hosting facility is having issues with viruses or something is what I thought I saw on Facebook Say what? Is this the wild west 90's of hosting? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Jason Wilson
Trina posted an hour ago Late last week, an unauthorized third-party caused a network outage at our web host, which has brought our website and related software services to a halt since that time. The scale of that breach was systemwide. Consequently, the host is working with federal authoriti

Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz

2019-05-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
I remember a fable where the king appointed the royal cabbage patch as his ministers. That way whenever something went wrong and the peasants were about to revolt, he could say that one of his ministers had been beheaded. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 201

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread chuck
Where were they hosted? From: Jason Wilson Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 10:38 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org Trina posted an hour ago Late last week, an unauthorized third-party caused a network outage at our web host, which has brought our website

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Jason Wilson
That I don’t know. On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 9:42 AM wrote: > Where were they hosted? > > *From:* Jason Wilson > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2019 10:38 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org > > Trina posted an hour ago > > Late last week, an unauthorized

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Matt Hoppes
So... how much of my data was compromised? On 5/29/19 12:38 PM, Jason Wilson wrote: Trina posted an hour ago Late last week, an unauthorized third-party caused a network outage at our web host, which has brought our website and related software services to a halt since that time.

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Matt Hoppes
Looks like: https://www.cetrom.net/ On 5/29/19 12:44 PM, Jason Wilson wrote: That I don’t know. On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 9:42 AM > wrote: Where were they hosted? *From:* Jason Wilson *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2019 10:38 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Use

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Tim Withrow via AF
looks like it's time to find a better provider On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 Matt Hoppes wrote: So... how much of my data was compromised? On 5/29/19 12:38 PM, Jason Wilson wrote: > Trina posted an hour ago > > Late last week, an unauthorized third-party caused a network outage at >

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/29/19 09:38, Jason Wilson wrote: Trina posted an hour ago Late last week, an unauthorized third-party caused a network outage at our web host, which has brought our website and related software services to a halt since that time. The scale of that breach was systemwide. Consequently,

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Steve Jones
Thats a very fair question to ask. I hope WISPA is forthright with us on this. Im assuming this only the public facing website and not any internal communications channels or repositories. alot of us have shared sensitive information over the years in various communications and other matters. Dark

Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz

2019-05-29 Thread dave
What would be the reason to have that other than some latency possibilities On 5/29/19 8:20 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Sadly, no L1 aggregation *GinoVillarini *Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: aeronet-logo inc500

Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz

2019-05-29 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Seemless failover From: AF on behalf of David Milholen Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 2:06 PM To: "af@af.afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 & 18 GHz What would be the reason to have that other than some latency possibilities [cid:part1.4EA0D542.5

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
CC numbers is a pretty narrow answer, what about any other data? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Chuck McCown
Give me all that sensitive info and I will put it in the AFMUG database. Then it will be secure for sure. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 12:20 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org CC numbers is a pretty narrow answer, what about a

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells enb repair

2019-05-29 Thread Jerry Head
I never found anyone will to repair one of ours. On 5/21/2019 4:57 PM, Craig House wrote: Anyone offer repairs on 3.65 enb units with any success ? Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
I'm in the process of buying a couple Supermicro servers, and I'm told that due to tariffs, prices have already gone up around 10% and will be going up another 15% on or about June 1. Are others running into the same thing? It sounds like I need to place my order now. That's not a trivial inc

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Sean Heskett
#MAGA On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:18 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I’m in the process of buying a couple Supermicro servers, and I’m told > that due to tariffs, prices have already gone up around 10% and will be > going up another 15% on or about June 1. > > > > Are others running into the same thing? I

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/29/19 13:17, Ken Hohhof wrote: I’m in the process of buying a couple Supermicro servers, and I’m told that due to tariffs, prices have already gone up around 10% and will be going up another 15% on or about June 1. Are others running into the same thing?  It sounds like I need to place m

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Steve Jones
key statement "claiming tariffs" Its a a scam to pilfer from you Fear Mongering, advantage taking, and politics. Hold out for a bit and see what new players emerge On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 3:18 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I’m in the process of buying a couple Supermicro servers, and I’m told > that d

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/29/19 13:50, Steve Jones wrote: key statement "claiming tariffs" Its a a scam to pilfer from you Fear Mongering, advantage taking, and politics. Hold out for a bit and see what new players emerge Yeah it's called eBay. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listi

[AFMUG] BiDi wavelengths

2019-05-29 Thread Adam Moffett
I'd been buying BiDi's all along that use 1310 and 1550nm (blue and yellow). I just got some pairs that are 1310 and 1490 (blue and purple). I didn't really know that 1310/1490 was an option until I bought them accidentally.  Is there any particular reason to pick 1490 over 1550?  They're the

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Daniel White
What data does WISPA have on you that would be of any concern? The membership is public knowledge... it is always available on the website.  Company address... publicly available.  Maybe your e-mail address... but its not like company e-mail addresses are exactly private.

[AFMUG] Adding a 450i AP to cnMaestro makes the AP reboot every 2 minutes.

2019-05-29 Thread Sam Lambie
Hi all, I have an AP that was onboarded to an older version of cnMaestro I believe 1.6.x and we upgraded to 2.1.0-r22. I then manually added our AP's and SM's back into the new instance of cnmaestro. All of ht eAP's but this one have onboarded fine. It shows up as onboarded, but as a generic AP

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Adam Moffett
I don't get it.  As I understand it tariffs are paid by the whoever brought the product into the country.  That would be a VAR or distributor. Are you saying that the VAR is raising prices and lying about the reason?  If that was the case you could just get the same old price from a different VA

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Robert Andrews
And search able through Google! On 05/29/2019 12:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Give me all that sensitive info and I will put it in the AFMUG database. Then it will be secure for sure. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 12:20 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Robert Andrews
Where I buy my Meanwells now has a tariff.. On 05/29/2019 01:17 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I’m in the process of buying a couple Supermicro servers, and I’m told that due to tariffs, prices have already gone up around 10% and will be going up another 15% on or about June 1. Are others running into

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Chuck McCown
I fear they have my browser history. From: Daniel White Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 3:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org What data does WISPA have on you that would be of any concern? The membership is public knowledge... it is always available on the w

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Lewis Bergman
We are seeing it on several products across the spectrum. Products containg LED's are goiing up. I don't see where it should be a big surprise. Its just another cost they are passing along. On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 3:18 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I’m in the process of buying a couple Supermicro serve

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Let me see what actual information I can find before the speculation gets too rampant. Mark Mark Radabaugh Amplex 22690 Pemberville Rd Luckey, OH 43443 419-261-5996 > On May 29, 2019, at 5:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I fear they have my browser history. > > From: Daniel White > Sent: Wed

Re: [AFMUG] BiDi wavelengths

2019-05-29 Thread George Skorup
1310/1490 is the GPON uplink/downlink wavelengths. I have a number of those FS modules deployed in Planet switches to talk to Calix 844GE's in BiDi AE mode to make it easier to cut over to GPON later. On 5/29/2019 4:09 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I'd been buying BiDi's all along that use 1310 and 1

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Mike Hammett
All there would be is tokens, not raw CC info. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Seth Mattinen" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 1:20:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wis

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Colin Stanners
Oh no Chuck, someone has released your browser search history! [Calculate propagation velocity of microstrip line on FR4 PCB] [Effect temperature expansion dissimilar metals] [dispersion calculation NEC simulations] [new mexican restaurant Salt Lake City] [mexico unlicensed frequency bands] [

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Jason McKemie
One thing about the tariffs that is especially irritating to me is that if tariffs are imposed at, for example 30% on steel, then the domestic supplier just raises their prices by 29%. Is this the way that this is supposed to work? On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 3:18 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I’m in the

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't think there is much thought to how it works in the consumer level other than it is supposed to make the tariffed goods more expensive thereby making other options more competitive. In that respect, it is likely working. Changing global supply chain relationships doesn't move quickly though.

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yeah, that’s what happened on washing machines. And dryers. It gave the domestic manufacturers room to raise prices. Things like Mean Well, I know Sager sent out a nice detailed letter showing how they were passing along the tariff on just their wholesale cost not their profit, so everythi

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Robert Andrews
But passing it on with a quasi-political message... On 05/29/2019 02:40 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: We are seeing it on several products across the spectrum. Products containg LED's are goiing up. I don't see where it should be a big surprise. Its just another cost they are passing along. On Wed

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Chuck McCown
But that’s what we do! Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > Let me see what actual information I can find before the speculation gets too > rampant. > > Mark > > Mark Radabaugh > Amplex > 22690 Pemberville Rd > Luckey, OH 43443 > 419-261-5996 > >> On

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Chuck McCown
My steel prices jumped before the tariff even took effect. Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > I don't think there is much thought to how it works in the consumer level > other than it is supposed to make the tariffed goods more expensive thereby > maki

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, some may think I’m getting into politics, but that is not my intention. It strikes me that we are starting to get things that look like taxes, swim like taxes, and quack like taxes, but are not treated like they’re taxes. Tariffs are starting to seem that way. Another example that bothe

Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org

2019-05-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
Best post all day! And it actually could be Chuck’s browser history. From: AF On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 5:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] wispa.org Oh no Chuck, someone has released your browser search history! [Calcu

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Lewis Bergman
Agreed. There are a large numebr of things that fall into that category. It seems the public has a large appetite for paying them though. Our city passed a bond last year to pay for street maintenance they have been deferring for years. I have never seen anyone actually try to sell a notion that ma

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Sean Heskett
Tariffs are a tax on consumers (ask any economist or dictionary.com - see below) Trump's tariffs have generated $72Billion in revenue (paid for by US consumers). Which for comparison is the largest tax hike since 1993. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/16/trumps-tariffs-are-equivalent-to-one-of-the-la

Re: [AFMUG] Before and after install of Licensed 900 MHz link.

2019-05-29 Thread Lewis Bergman
That conduit might serve as a choke on that ground. On Wed, May 29, 2019, 9:56 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Site pro mount, PC-Tel antenna, Heliax cable and accessories. .inside > GE-MDS radio. 928.xxx and 952.xxx MHz. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [AFMUG] Before and after install of Licensed 900 MHz link.

2019-05-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hum..the number 6 ground cable is insulated...direct bonding to 10 ft. ground rod. Please explain your observation...I have had great success with this method but open to improvements or corrections Thanks On Wed, May 29, 2019, 9:02 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > That conduit might serve as a choke o

[AFMUG] Netflix change peers?

2019-05-29 Thread TJ Trout
Around 5/14 I noticed several gbps of traffic shift from one peer (6939) to another peer (7018) did Netflix or some other player recently change peering agreements? Anyone else see a substantial drop or increase in downstream traffic from one peer to another about mid-month? -- AF mailing list AF@

Re: [AFMUG] tariffs on servers

2019-05-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/29/19 5:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: It strikes me that we are starting to get things that look like taxes, swim like taxes, and quack like taxes, but are not treated like they’re taxes.  Tariffs are starting to seem that way. Another example that bothers me more and more as the contribution r

Re: [AFMUG] Adding a 450i AP to cnMaestro makes the AP reboot every 2 minutes.

2019-05-29 Thread Ryan Ray
Try defaulting the radio? maybe some bad old config in there On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 2:14 PM Sam Lambie wrote: > Hi all, > > > > I have an AP that was onboarded to an older version of cnMaestro I believe > 1.6.x and we upgraded to > > 2.1.0-r22. I then manually added our AP's and SM's back into