Preseem
> does no DPI and can’t limit video resolution. With Net Neutrality dead for
> at least 4 years, maybe I need to find a way to do that.
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2025 8:30 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
reseem does no DPI
> and can’t limit video resolution. With Net Neutrality dead for at least 4
> years, maybe I need to find a way to do that.
>
> From: AF On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2025 8:30 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subj
, Preseem does no DPI and
can’t limit video resolution. With Net Neutrality dead for at least 4 years,
maybe I need to find a way to do that.
From: AF On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2025 8:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat at
Preseem is only one option. Free options do exist but they're more hands on
to integrate with your billing system. I wanted ease of use and the pretty
QoE data that shows us problem areas like congested ap's, wifi issues, etc.
It's worth the 50 cents per sub/month in my eyes. If we had more subs th
Preseem might be more these days, but it seems like before they just ran
fq_codel or cake, which you can do for free in Linux, then charged per sub so I
have to rent my subs back from them. Lots of providers are trying to get me to
rent my subs back from them through cloud, ala Calix.
> On Feb
There's probably no need to do this at the customer level if you're already
doing it in the core. With Preseem or something similar, bufferbloat is
nonexistent.
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025, 1:24 PM Dev wrote:
> Anyone using something like Mikrotik (or other vendor) bufferbloat queuing
> at the customer
Anyone using something like Mikrotik (or other vendor) bufferbloat queuing at
the customer router like fq_codel or cake? We’ve seen really good improvement
at the network core, but wanting to know if it helps to push that out to the
customer edge, and what algorithm/hardware does a good job.
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From: "Adam Moffett"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 9:13:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
That's why I disable threading in my email. It never works anyway.
On 2/1/2020 11:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Nothing. Someone forked the conversation int
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*From: *"Matt Hoppes"
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
*Sent: *Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:28:42 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
What does this have to do with CAF-II?
For us we pretty much
issue, and sometimes I don’t feel the content providers
and CDNs are helping very much.
From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 10:27 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
Nothing. Someone forked the conversation into a totally
Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:28:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
What does this have to do with CAF-II?
For us we pretty much know where the loaded APs are, it’s a matter of smoothing
out the experience.
On Jan 31, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Si
;> From: AF On Behalf Of David Coudron
>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 12:41 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
>>
>>
>>
>> Others probably know better. I think some of the other tools are DPI based
>
alf Of *David Coudron
> *Sent:* Friday, January 31, 2020 12:41 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
>
>
>
> Others probably know better. I think some of the other tools are DPI
> based where Preseem is FQ-CoDel, but I am not sure tha
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf
Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 11:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
How does Preseem compare to Procera?
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:25 AM
Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 11:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
How does Preseem compare to Procera?
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:25 AM Darin Steffl
mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:
I second everything David said. We've b
, January 31, 2020 11:39 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
>
> When I was a wee lad working at my first real engineering job in nuclear
> power, my boss had me sit down and figure out what my actual self-cost was
> as my very first job for him. I came up with a num
(or line of code) was.
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 11:39 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
When I was a wee lad working at my first real engineering job in nuclear power,
my boss had me sit down and figure out
gt;> Take the time to go through the demo with Gerrit. You may not decide
>>> it is not for you, but it won't be a waste of time to understand why they
>>> are pushing it so hard.
>>>
>>> David Coudron
>>> david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile
n't be a waste of time to understand why they are
>> pushing it so hard.
>>
>> David Coudron
>> david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile: 612-991-7474
>>
>> Advantenon, Inc.
>> i...@advantenon.com | 3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
>&
, so
maybe I do need more people to sign up so they stay in business.
From: AF On Behalf Of David Coudron
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 11:34 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
There are others on here that can explain it far better than me
When I was a wee lad working at my first real engineering job in nuclear
power, my boss had me sit down and figure out what my actual self-cost
was as my very first job for him. I came up with a number like
$22/hour. He then showed me what my actual overhead number was, and it
came out to li
Spitler
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 11:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
I'm more interested in the QoE monitoring. I'm guessing it looks at TCP
performance? How does it do it? Deep packet inspection? Seems tough to do
without overwhelming
surprise wasn’t that we got some
extra tools, but how accurate and useful they were. It is hard to oversell
that.
Regards,
David Coudron
From: AF On Behalf Of Dan Spitler
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 11:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
I'm
On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 10:40 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
Please send a fresh e-mail when starting a new thread.
Anybody can do nearly anything most of the manufacturers do with a $300 PC,
open source software
a waste of time to understand why they are
> pushing it so hard.
>
> David Coudron
> david.coud...@advantenon.com | Mobile: 612-991-7474
>
> Advantenon, Inc.
> i...@advantenon.com | 3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
> 55447 | www.advantenon.com | Phone: 80
3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
> 55447 | www.advantenon.com | Phone: 800-704-4720 | Local:
> 612-454-1545
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 10:41 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject
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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 10:41 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
I think they have integration with common CRM's like Sonar.
You sound exactly like I sounded 15 years ago. The more stuff I have to deal
with every day, the more I'm ok with outsourcing s
Keep hoping that Mikrotik v7 will have codel. If you look at there
forum many requests for it.
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On 1/31/20 8:49 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Well, yes, but you will probably dismiss it as stuff you can implement yourself plus a
"pretty dashboard". Most stuff these days is based on Linux and cloud
management, and it's a question of whether you want to pay someone to do it, or spend
your own
I think they have integration with common CRM's like Sonar.
You sound exactly like I sounded 15 years ago. The more stuff I have to
deal with every day, the more I'm ok with outsourcing some of my
troubles to someone else.
I just paid a guy $800 to replace an exhaust inducer in my furnace.
ent: Friday, January 31, 2020 10:34:39 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] bufferbloat
I’m getting spammed like every day with the Preseem guys selling what seem like
expensive hacks of fq_codel to reduce bufferbloat. Is there anything else
interesting about their technology besides deploying open source impleme
I’m getting spammed like every day with the Preseem guys selling what seem like
expensive hacks of fq_codel to reduce bufferbloat. Is there anything else
interesting about their technology besides deploying open source implementation
of fq_codel or CAKE on commodity hardware, which we already do
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