the house to the electrical service entrance will be any
> cheaper.
>
> From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 1:22 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
>
>
> A cable shield or tone wire
a wire larger than the tone wire
itself.
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:20 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] My solution
Power ground.
*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:07 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave
That would surprise me. A fallen power line or other mishap could
energize metallic components, whether it's sharing a conduit or not
doesn't seem relevant. Every aerial splice enclosure has ground lugs,
and there's not typically a conduit on aerial.
As far as I'm aware, the NEC only require
On 9/10/20 11:43, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I didn’t see the ground wire in Chuck’s photo. There’s no active
electronics in that box, right?
Somehow grounding the cable to the electrical power ground seems to
eliminate one of the advantages of fiber. But “code” aside, I’d feel
better keeping that u
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
>
> Sometimes. Yeah, that 844 reports it to 4 decimal places and it says
> "-17."
> On my main cables I am pretty anal. I have 576 strands
Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
A cable shield or tone wire is a path for lightning to enter the prem. So it
has to be grounded. Supposed to be big fat #6 or something crazy like that.
But I figure no need to use a wire larger than the tone wire itself.
From: ch
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
Power ground.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:07 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
But what is that ground connector grounded to?
From: AF On
Power ground.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:07 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
But what is that ground connector grounded to?
From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 1:03
Sh
On 9/10/2020 2:07 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
But what is that ground connector grounded to?
*From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 1:03 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] My solution
The copper line is for toning and yes, you do want to
But what is that ground connector grounded to?
From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 1:03 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
The copper line is for toning and yes, you do want to ground it. We will be
grounding it. Else you can’t
10, 2020 11:43 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
I think if your cable has any metallic component you're supposed to ground it.
I don't think there's any distinction made as to whether it's a toning wire,
armor, or what have you.
I'd clamp th
I think if your cable has any metallic component you're supposed to
ground it. I don't think there's any distinction made as to whether
it's a toning wire, armor, or what have you.
I'd clamp the FRP strength members if there's a way provided to do it
though.
On 9/10/2020 12:51 PM, Louis Ar
inen
>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:20 AM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
>>
>>> On 9/10/20 08:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>>
>>> As far as testing - plug in the OLT and see what the reported signal levels
>>&
On 9/10/20 09:51, Mike Hammett wrote:
I think the manufacturer recommends a certain length of launch cable to
get the most out of their product. I'd use whatever they recommend.
Yeah there's a bunch of different sizes in nice little containers.
Any decent OTDR I've used can zoom in nicely no
t a ribbon a
> little tight. That was pretty remarkable. I just increased the radius a bit
> and got that much back.
>
> -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:07 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My sol
meters.
> Also, I set everything up for feet not meters. Go 'merica!
>
> -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:20 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
>
> On 9/10/20 08:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
reased the radius a
bit and got that much back.
-Original Message-
From: fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:07 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
So, Chuck, you are using a power meter to determine that fusion splices
reported as 0.02 dB are ac
: [AFMUG] My solution
I think the manufacturer recommends a certain length of launch cable to get the
most out of their product. I'd use whatever they recommend.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
>
> I have equipment to do bidi, olts anything someone may want.
> Power meter is the only way to really know your span loss.
>
> With my better splicers we can see the quality of the cleave and the fiber
> itself.
> Non
m: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:31:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
I have mixed emotions about 1 km launch cables. Most splicers these days
have a dead zone that is in the range of 1 meter. I have a 3 meter launch
cable and it makes it really ea
FWIW I think you have an issue with the fiber mounting.
The "Ground Lug" is supposed to hold the Fiberglass strength members from
the drop cable. This helps keep the cable from getting pistoned in or
pulling out.
The copper line on the drop cable is a tracer and should not be connected
to anything
splice may be at 1.010 meters.
Also, I set everything up for feet not meters. Go 'merica!
-Original Message-
From: Seth Mattinen
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:20 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
On 9/10/20 08:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
As far as te
fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:19 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
Re: fusion splice losses, is the first the loss reported by the fusion
splicer and the latter a measured value?
Do you measure with light source and power meter or bidirectional OTDR
On 9/10/20 08:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
As far as testing - plug in the OLT and see what the reported signal
levels are. Compare them with the acceptable levels and the number on
the other customers on that ONT port. If signals out of line first
clean the connectors, then break out the o
fusion splicing is far superior than mechanical splices that
average 0.2 dB - 0.75 dB.
Jared
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
>
> I have found that the db loss on fusion splices to be wildly opt
mber 10, 2020 9:22 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] My solution
>
> I've been told by my CRM system that my techs must not be too good with
> mechanical connectors because support cases for fiber issues in buildings
> where we used them are m
you think the splice might be screwed up.
Mark
> On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Power meter is fast cheap and easy.
>
> From: Adam Moffett <>
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:25 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG
Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:25 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] My solution
I suppose if you screw up the fusion splice you'll see it on the
camera. If you screwed up the mechanical splice you might not know
unless you shoot it with the OTDR.
O
Power meter is fast cheap and easy.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:25 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
I suppose if you screw up the fusion splice you'll see it on the camera. If
you screwed up the mechanical splice you might not know u
s actually injected a signal and read the
splice loss.
>
> -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com
<mailto:fiber...@mail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:40 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
I presume they are cleaving the fiber?
From: Carl Peterson
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
I've been told by my CRM system that my techs must not be too good with
mechanical connectors because support case
cers actually injected a signal and read the splice loss.
> >
> > -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:40 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
> >
> > Just as an FYI, there
We have 8000 deployed in one area. Over 10 years and no problems.
-Original Message-
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:18 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
I've been told (By a vendor pushing SOC's) that the index matchi
and read the splice loss.
-Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:40 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
Just as an FYI, there are some nonexpensive fusion splicers out there.
Chinese models (AI-8/AI-9) for under a grand on A
...@mail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:40 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
Just as an FYI, there are some nonexpensive fusion splicers out there.
Chinese models (AI-8/AI-9) for under a grand on Amazon. Less on
eBay/Aliexpress. I got one. It works. There&#
t; Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020
> From: "Chuck McCown"
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] My solution
>
> I think I will switch to a mechanical. Too cumbersome to haul out an
> expensive fusion splicer.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone--
> AF
On Behalf Of Chuck
McCown
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 10:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
My flat slack
is in the hand
Why does that sound dirty?
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 10:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My solution
My flat slack is in the hand hole.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 9, 2020, at 8:22 PM, Chris Fabien mailto:ch
My flat slack is in the hand hole.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 9, 2020, at 8:22 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
>
>
> Sorry I meant slack of the outside flat drop intact, takes about a 12" square
> box to be able to make it coil in there.
>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 9:17 PM Chuck McCown wrote:
>
Sorry I meant slack of the outside flat drop intact, takes about a 12"
square box to be able to make it coil in there.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 9:17 PM Chuck McCown wrote:
> This has slack storage and a splice holder.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 9, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
>
>
This has slack storage and a splice holder.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 9, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
>
>
> We had way more field failures with AFL Fastconnects than after we switched
> to spliced pigtails. We use a little larger NID that allows for some slack
> storage and has
We had way more field failures with AFL Fastconnects than after we switched
to spliced pigtails. We use a little larger NID that allows for some slack
storage and has a splice holder. Tii 506F.
Chris
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 8:13 PM Chuck McCown wrote:
> I think I will switch to a mechanical. To
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