Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

2020-09-08 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/8/20 12:58 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: if I was starting fresh today that is.  If you already are handing out public v4 addresses and now you take them away then you'll have to deal with a few restless natives who can't login to their NVR anymore or whose XBox has "strict NAT" all of a sud

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

2020-09-08 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm aware of a company that had a /19.  They sold a /20 for I think $40k and kept the other half, and they still had more IP's than customers. I think we're at or near a tipping point with IPv6.  At some point in the past having IPv6 was like being the only guy with a fax machine.  At this poi

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

2020-09-08 Thread Steve Jones
its like the combustion engine, yes, its going out of style, just not likely at a pace we will see in our lifetimes. Just wait til the Seatle type never worked a day but dress like a lumberjack with a perfectly trimmed beard hipsters find out that IP4 is "retro". you can host them a geocities flat

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

2020-09-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
riginal Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 9:37 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values So today I looked over my kingdom and realized I'm sitting on $96,000 worth of IPv4 space. But, much like the stock market it&

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

2020-09-08 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't see IPv4 going away for a very long time, but I think that we will eventually get to the point where IP addresses will have little or no value. Eventually, most stuff is going to be on IPv6, at which point some form of NAT is going to be fine to handle what's left IPv4 only. On Tue, Sep 8,

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

2020-09-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
ably still has to justify the space to ARIN, but that shouldn't be difficult if it comes with customers. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 9:37 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values So toda

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

2020-09-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
I don't see how it can -- even though many say it will. I just don't see how it can. It's a chicken and egg situation. Who is he leasing it through? That sounds like an interesting way to make recurring revenue. On 9/8/20 10:52 AM, Robert wrote: A friend has a /16   Due to issues with ARIN

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

2020-09-08 Thread Robert
A friend has a /16   Due to issues with ARIN selling it is problematic.   So he leases it out.  I was the one who advised him to hold onto it when he thought of selling it 15 years ago.  So he gives me a commission. ( good friend! ).   The $200/month commission is a nice perk.   I hope ipv4 nev

Re: [AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

2020-09-08 Thread Mark Radabaugh
No, but it’s a consideration for the balance sheet. The value is a large reason that the community (ARIN) allows transfer sales. The intention is to have the price of IPv4 increase to the point it gets people to move to IPv6 and sell the IPv4 space. Eventually the value of IPv4 addresses w

[AFMUG] IP Addresses Values

2020-09-08 Thread Matt Hoppes
So today I looked over my kingdom and realized I'm sitting on $96,000 worth of IPv4 space. But, much like the stock market it's only worth that if you sell it. On the other hand, I'm using those IPs to run my business. At what point does it make sense to sell them and just NAT everyone bec