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On Mon, Jun 6, 2022, 8:19 PM Bill Prince wrote:
> You can get the troll out from under a bridge, but you can't get the troll
> to not be a troll.
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> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 2:34 PM Chuck McCown via AF
> wrote:
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>> Probably just as well. David S
You can get the troll out from under a bridge, but you can't get the troll
to not be a troll.
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 2:34 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Probably just as well. David Sovreen just unsubscribed...
> I need to quit inciting riots.
>
> *From:* Rob
Spot on Darin!
Look outside US. There are countries that have done something about their gun
culture when things went out of control, Australia, UK and Canada.
At what point we have to say my right to AK-47 has no meaning if our kids has
to go through weekly active shooters training or the cl
I came close a couple weeks ago.
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> On Jun 6, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
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> Why unsubscribe?
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> Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>> Probably just as well. David Sovreen just unsubscribed...
>> I ne
" I need to quit inciting riots. "
*nods* I engage in a lot of this discourse other places, but AFMUG members seem
to be less tolerant of that conversation and thus, people leave.
Perma-lent probably seems like a good idea.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest I
Why unsubscribe?
Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Probably just as well. David Sovreen just unsubscribed...
I need to quit inciting riots.
*From:* Robert
*Sent:* Monday, June 6, 2022 2:35 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
Yeah, I think I am seeing snow in hell...
Probably just as well. David Sovreen just unsubscribed...
I need to quit inciting riots.
From: Robert
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 2:35 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
Yeah, I think I am seeing snow in hell...
On 6/6/22 1:10 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Yeah, I think I am seeing snow in hell...
On 6/6/22 1:10 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Now that’s a first!
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, June 6, 2022 1:48 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
rotflmao
lent
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 2:46 PM
The availability of guns isn't the problem. Turning nutcases into
celebrities is the problem. This wasn't a thing when I was in school
and guns were readily available.
Darin Steffl wrote:
Why is everyone's solution to spend tons more money on hardening
schools and adding more paid law enforc
Now that’s a first!
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 1:48 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
rotflmao
lent
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 2:46 PM Darin Steffl wrote:
Why is everyone's solution to spend tons more money on hardening sc
It's open source. Submit a pull request. The docs are decent, but the
examples are even better that you can find in the code base.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 3:49 PM Steven Kenney via AF wrote:
> There is a process you can go through and they'll add it. Its in their
> docs. Then you post it to g
rotflmao
lent
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 2:46 PM Darin Steffl wrote:
> Why is everyone's solution to spend tons more money on hardening schools
> and adding more paid law enforcement?
>
> The solution is and always has been to keep bad guys from getting guns.
> It's much cheaper than hardening eve
There is a process you can go through and they'll add it. Its in their
docs. Then you post it to github I believe. Best provide the mibs and an
snmpwalk of a device - specify which things you want to graph and how it
should be categorised.
I used to have my own guy who did all of this for Libr
Why is everyone's solution to spend tons more money on hardening schools
and adding more paid law enforcement?
The solution is and always has been to keep bad guys from getting guns.
It's much cheaper than hardening every public place. Why do you want to
make school a prison? Barbed wire fences, o
That’s a fancy way to say you only get to lose a gunfight once.
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2022 1:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
I have been shot at, but never been in comba
There has to be a decision made on what we want from police.
You cant demand they shoot white shooters, but gently caress any other
ethnicity.
You cant demand police be demilitarized at the same time you demand they be
ready to engage a heavily armed operator at a split second notice
you cant deman
We've neutered the police so effectively they can't do the job anymore. We
need terminator robots.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:49 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> I have been shot at, but never been in combat. I don’t carry a weapon
> because I don’t want that option. That option is one of the i
I have been shot at, but never been in combat. I don’t carry a weapon because
I don’t want that option. That option is one of the initial starting
conditions of a higher order ordinary differential equation.
I prefer a linear equation.
If a firefighter is armored such that they can probabl
Why not equip all school doors with electrically controlled latches. Fire
alarm automatically disables them unless there is a concurrent lock down alarm.
(Or maybe not.) This would be very easy to do. Even retrofit with wireless
control. Give all staff a pendent button lanyard. Several but
I’m fine with background checks and mental health screenings. The problem is
crazy look like normal people until after they’ve already done something crazy,
so there are no perfect answers.
From: AF On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2022 12:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwa
True, if they're properly trained and doing their job it would be more
effective.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert wrote:
> There was also the shooting down in the south, where they had a school
> "police" officer who stood back and did nothing. That's not necessarily a
> solution either
There was also the shooting down in the south, where they had a school
"police" officer who stood back and did nothing. That's not
necessarily a solution either.
On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
Seems like we should just be giving additional funding to police
departments so that they
In sunnyvale, Ca. The police are firefighters and the firefighters
back up police.. kinda like you are talking about..
On 6/6/22 9:05 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I may regret posting this but I had a thought.
How about we let the fire department handle active shooters at schools.
They kno
Seems like we should just be giving additional funding to police
departments so that they can have a regular presence at schools.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:08 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> I may regret posting this but I had a thought.
>
> How about we let the fire department handle active sho
If anything shoots back or has the ability to do so most of them aren’t too
interested in that from what I’ve experienced. They get very upset if you
don’t disclose if you had bullets or guns in the fire they’re working. If they
find out they pull all of the fire fighters out.
I’d be inte
Many first responders, fire and ems, do wear armor now, particularly in
urban areas where potshots at fire trucks is becoming a fad.
The issue is arming them and giving them permission to kill. After the mid
term is over, the media frenzy of "kill ther perp" will go back to defund.
We do not want
Not a totally terribly idea..
I should point out that the city of Sunnyvale California
eliminated the "fire department" many years ago (we lived in
Sunnyvale until 1996). They have "Public Safety Officers". These
officers patrol the city in police cruisers, and wher
I may regret posting this but I had a thought.
How about we let the fire department handle active shooters at schools.
They know how to get there fast. They are ready to go at an instants notice.
They know how to breach any building and rescue survivors.
They have heavy protective gear on, ju
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