[AFMUG] OT: are the Russkies trying to torpedo the ISS?

First there was the story about the mysterious hole found in the Russian space capsule. The Russkies tried to blame that on a (female) American astronaut. Well, OK. Things happen. Then they sent up a new module that mysteriously fired a thruster and spun the entire ISS around almost two full turn

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

It's those nerds over at Fermilab. They're doing some new weird physics. We (outside of Illinois) will read about it in the paper RSN. We are happy to have known you. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 8:18 PM Nate Burke wrote: > IT'S DOING IT AGAIN TONIGHT! If I put m

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

My bet is johnnie is demoing his  5000 watt subwolfers in his shiny  squatted truck bed somewhere in the area. Probaly could find him faster by triangulation than a competitors pesky radio On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 11:18 PM, Nate Burke wrote: -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmu

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

IT'S DOING IT AGAIN TONIGHT! If I put my hand on the glass of any of the windows in the house, I can feel them vibrating. I Would say it's at about 20 or 30hz. If I hold the side of the TV that's wall mounted, I can feel it there too. Definitely was not there during the day. 64 degrees ou

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

This same thought came up in another group I participate in.   Basically how much more can we screw this planet up...  It explains the alien sightings... Oh and google had the answer for the 3 solar mass black hole as 13.5 Klicks...   Not so small, actually...   An Asteroid much less a BH

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

Gradients are a social construct. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 9, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Robert wrote: > >  1 or 2 solar masses going by at that speed would reduce the planet to > another asteroid belt... The tidal effects would be larger than the planet. > Wouldn't be about the mass it sucke

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

1 or 2 solar masses going by at that speed would reduce the planet to another asteroid belt...   The tidal effects would be larger than the planet.   Wouldn't be about the mass it sucked in, it would be about the gravity gradients... On 9/9/21 1:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Which makes me wonde

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

No but they have confirmed they will attend the presidential reinstatement party… dang I think they might have missed it. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 9, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Tim Withrow wrote: > >  > I guess if it is a thing, place, or state I have or will only have missed 2 > departures, if

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

Which makes me wonder... If a very small black hole, say in the neighborhood of 1 or 2 solar masses (how big would that be?) came passing though the solar system at say, 1/20 the speed of light. When it hit the earth it would take ~~ 9/10 of a second to pass all the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

I guess if it is a thing, place, or state I have or will only  have missed 2 departures, if it comes while im still here. I'm not on or in the waiting line.  Has any of those Heavens Gate folks sent any pics of their journey? On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 4:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Well, I migh

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

Well, I might not fit in too well in heaven anyhow. Early leader of my church said: “I see no faults in the Church, and therefore let me be resurrected with the Saints, whether I ascend to heaven or descend to hell, or go to any other place. And if we go to hell, we will turn the devils out of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

"All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you've had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it's far too late to start making a fuss about it now" On 9/9/2021 2:37 PM, Robert

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

Doesnt look like anyone in this list was re placed 🤣 On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 1:09 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug

Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile

I looked at all options and Aviat won in pretty much every area, which is probably why 80%+ of the PCN's I see come through my desk are Aviat?... On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 12:45 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > I've had the best experience with Comsearch for licensing. > > The Aviats can do higher transmi

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

F.   they just created a micro black hole. That's why the aliens are gathering.   Nothing like a planet imploding for inter-stellar headlines... On 9/9/21 11:24 AM, Steve Jones wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/56643677 On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 12:04 PM Nate Bur

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

I'll bet the people who would know about this would be the HFT guys. On 9/9/21 10:04 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Yeah, I wonder how tight the timing is?  I also wonder what kind of packets come out of the photo detectors.  If you could take the raw baseband data and directly modulate it with

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

Boring a new tunnel On 9/9/21 10:03 AM, Nate Burke wrote: We are are literally next to Fermilab, as in, across the street, so it was probably some new mind control experiment they were doing. On 9/9/2021 11:46 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: I am not saying it's Aliens but it's Aliens On Thu, Sep 9

Re: [AFMUG] OT probably too late

The Lewis C.K. statue could really be interesting. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 1:25 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT probably too late I guess we could make the statue first. Hmmm what kind of pose I wonder? Bill Cosby had a st

Re: [AFMUG] OT probably too late

I guess we could make the statue first. Hmmm what kind of pose I wonder? Bill Cosby had a statue at Disney Land or Disney World. https://www.canceledpeople.com/cancelations Maybe some of them would pay to have the statue commissioned. Kevin Spacey? From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, September

Re: [AFMUG] OT probably too late

... except I am not aware of any Al Frankin or Bill Cosby statues. Are there statues of Harvey Weinstein or R Kelley? or ... ... ... bp On 9/9/2021 12:05 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Years ago, when statues

Re: [AFMUG] OT probably too late

Put them down with all the mothballed aircraft in Mojave. bp On 9/9/2021 12:05 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Years ago, when statues started coming down, I considered getting a land lease on some BLM ground

[AFMUG] OT probably too late

Years ago, when statues started coming down, I considered getting a land lease on some BLM ground out in the salt flats for a statue cemetery. All the bad guys could be planted out there in one spot. I think it would kinda fun to walk through a thing like that. But I doubt there would have be

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

Because a GPON4 or GPON8 card is a chunk of change. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Why go to that trouble, and not just packetize it over an RF link? Do a > new GPON segm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

That’s what happens when you dump heavy particles in with the lights. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 12:29 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations That's got to be it. Their accelerator is out of balance. bp On 9/9/2021 10:03 AM, Nate Burke wro

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

That is the only practical way. But still, theoretically, I think I could do it. May have to have an insanely illegal RF bandwidth though. Come on copper, catch me if you can. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 12:26 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending Ca

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

That's got to be it. Their accelerator is out of balance. bp On 9/9/2021 10:03 AM, Nate Burke wrote: We are are literally next to Fermilab, as in, across the street, so it was probably some new mind control experiment they were doing.

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

Why go to that trouble, and not just packetize it over an RF link? Do a new GPON segment at the far end, or am I not understanding something? bp On 9/8/2021 12:09 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I am sure this

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

https://www.bbc.com/news/56643677 On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 12:04 PM Nate Burke wrote: > We are are literally next to Fermilab, as in, across the street, so it was > probably some new mind control experiment they were doing. > > On 9/9/2021 11:46 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > I am not saying it's Al

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

I Dont know much about it. but I would think the far end would suffer "duplex" issues. The light side would have to stay in TDMA sync the ethernet bridge would have to make up the difference, the remote side would have to accept the discrepancies On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 12:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

welcome to havana for real though, you should do some serious investigating on this. They claim havana syndrome is a real thing now. Probably not it, but testing a system like that might result in something like that. Probably the mine though, do you know if they use one of those circular boring

Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile

I wonder what happens when horizontal snow accumulates on the radome? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:23 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile Yes.. alignment at 80 is tough...did some bridgewaves... yikes On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 11:04

Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile

Yes.. alignment at 80 is tough...did some bridgewaves... yikes On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 11:04 AM TJ Trout wrote: > 80+0 will go far, but with rain fade gotta stay under 3 miles. 80+11 which > I just deployed at 9km holds full 10g but it hasn't rained yet, it will > drop modulations and push power as

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

Pretty sure it was the rapture. Sucks for us I guess... From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:03 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations We are are literally next to Fermilab, as in, across the street, so it was probably some new mind

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

Yeah, I wonder how tight the timing is? I also wonder what kind of packets come out of the photo detectors. If you could take the raw baseband data and directly modulate it without any layer 234 type of stuff, you might be able to replicate it. Essentially photon to rf then back to photon.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

We are are literally next to Fermilab, as in, across the street, so it was probably some new mind control experiment they were doing. On 9/9/2021 11:46 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: I am not saying it's Aliens but it's Aliens On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 10:45 AM Nate Burke > wro

Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile

80+0 will go far, but with rain fade gotta stay under 3 miles. 80+11 which I just deployed at 9km holds full 10g but it hasn't rained yet, it will drop modulations and push power as the fade occurs then finally drop to 11ghz without dropping any packets if that fades it will drop one 11ghz channel

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

Poltergeist. bp On 9/9/2021 9:26 AM, Nate Burke wrote: My SO woke up last night around 4am because the house was Vibrating. No Joke, Windows were rattling, putting your hand on the 2nd floor wall you could feel it.  Light blubs in a ceiling fan were rattling, and the wall mounted TV you cou

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet Vs Fiber in Space

This was part of the TMI compute facility retrofits.  Large facilities at each plant were required to be built at least 2 Klicks away with Health Physics ( rad medicine ), simulators, data collection, etc.   We had full take offs of all data that went to the control rooms collected and displaye

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

Not possible on an RF level that I know of but I have done some testing with the Tbit SFP+ XGSpon ONT. Waiting on a microwave 80ghz link with a 10GSFP+ port to test running it directly with a SFP+ DAC extender so it doesn't require an additional switch just DC and fiber to the radio. On 9/8/20

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet Vs Fiber in Space

You'd think all cabling in nuke plant would be intrinsic... We have to use expensive shielded cabling on some of our waste water projects...poop gas goes boom... On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 10:41 AM Robert wrote: > I also seem to recall that fiber is more likely to degrade in space due > to radiation.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

I am not saying it's Aliens but it's Aliens On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 10:45 AM Nate Burke wrote: > We're about 40 miles west of Downtown Chicago. So not a seismic active > zone. Nothing was reported in local media that I've seen. > > On 9/9/2021 11:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > What part of the c

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

Was there a beach boy concert in the area? On 9/9/21 9:26 AM, Nate Burke wrote: My SO woke up last night around 4am because the house was Vibrating. No Joke, Windows were rattling, putting your hand on the 2nd floor wall you could feel it.  Light blubs in a ceiling fan were rattling, and the w

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

We're about 40 miles west of Downtown Chicago. So not a seismic active zone. Nothing was reported in local media that I've seen. On 9/9/2021 11:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: What part of the country? Mexico had some earthquake activity recently.. On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 10:26 AM Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet Vs Fiber in Space

I also seem to recall that fiber is more likely to degrade in space due to radiation.   We had issues with fiber runs from Nuke plants having to be heavily shielded when it was near the containment and not in man-spaces..  But this was in 1980 when fiber was a pretty new tech.. On 9/9/21 9:03

Re: [AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

What part of the country? Mexico had some earthquake activity recently.. On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 10:26 AM Nate Burke wrote: > My SO woke up last night around 4am because the house was Vibrating. No > Joke, Windows were rattling, putting your hand on the 2nd floor wall you > could feel it. Light b

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

I'd have to imagine the timing would get considerably screwed up and you'd end up with rogue ONT errors constantly. On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 9:23 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Not saying you could convey a full gpon traffic load. But if you could > just have a few ONTs stretched out there via R

[AFMUG] OT: House Vibrations

My SO woke up last night around 4am because the house was Vibrating. No Joke, Windows were rattling, putting your hand on the 2nd floor wall you could feel it. Light blubs in a ceiling fan were rattling, and the wall mounted TV you could see shaking. There were no storms and no wind last nig

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

I would probably take one too if the price is right. There are some on ebay though. $499. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 6:48 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF Willing to offload one? I'm looking for... 000-003

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

Not saying you could convey a full gpon traffic load. But if you could just have a few ONTs stretched out there via RF it would be very handy. It seems pretty simple as a block diagram. Just a pair of the ONT SFPs and then convert that to ethernet. As long as the timing was tight enough I th

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet Vs Fiber in Space

I was media agnostic once, made me burp On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 10:04 AM Bill Prince wrote: > Ethernet is media agnostic. Fiber is a specific flavor. Likewise, cat5 > would just be media specific. > > > bp > > > On 9/9/2021 8:58 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > > I'm watching the live spacewalk that is on.

Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile

it's BFM On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 10:11 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Wow, 10 gig. At what distance? > > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 8, 2021 5:58 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile > > Mimosa b11 is the only one that isn't high /

Re: [AFMUG] affordable splicer

They AI-9s are pretty good only issue I have with them is the having to have the app installed on a phone for some of the necessary functions. The app has some cool functionality, but I tend to like less complicated basic stuff. If your not doing any SOCs "Splice on connectors I recommend the D

Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile

Wow, 10 gig. At what distance? From: TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, September 8, 2021 5:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile Mimosa b11 is the only one that isn't high / low for sparing but it's wifi based and junk imo. I think Aviat is the only game in town

Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile

40.63018-112.3221302m 40.56556-112.27451468m Looks like I am going to have to create a spreadsheet of radios with respect to: FDX Payload Antenna size at 6 miles Antenna cost Spares cost Radio cost Who is the best value for licensing? It was Liz. From: Joseph Schraml Sent: We

Re: [AFMUG] Ethernet Vs Fiber in Space

Ethernet is media agnostic. Fiber is a specific flavor. Likewise, cat5 would just be media specific. bp On 9/9/2021 8:58 AM, Nate Burke wrote: I'm watching the live spacewalk that is on.  They keep referencing that they are routing a new 'Ethernet' cable on the outside of the spacestation a

[AFMUG] Ethernet Vs Fiber in Space

I'm watching the live spacewalk that is on. They keep referencing that they are routing a new 'Ethernet' cable on the outside of the spacestation as a redundant data path between 2 modules. I would think that they would do everything as Fiber to prevent RF Interference. Is it because they ju

Re: [AFMUG] Radio Mobile

SAF or Aviat are both excellent options. SAF has lower sub ms latency, but theyre both sub ms links On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 10:47 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > It's not quite true that Mimosa B11 is the only thing that's not high/low > for sparing, I know you just need to flip the diplexers on Bridge

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

Willing to offload one? I'm looking for... 000-00372 E7-2 Field Install Package (CO & ODC/RT): Shelf with Blank Card, FTA, and Field installation Kit Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 12:51 AM Carl Peter