Re: [AFMUG] UBNT GPS

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
I wouldn't know.  Never used those with sync.  I would say I did not observe that problem on LTU for whatever that's worth. In general if you have synchronized TDD there would be a guard interval between the Download and Upload time slots.  So that costs you something, but it shouldn't be dram

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT GPS

2020-08-26 Thread Rhys Cuff (Speedweb Internet) via AF
AirMax AC From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2020 12:34 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT GPS On LTU or AirMax AC? On 8/26/2020 10:31 PM, Rhys Cuff (Speedweb Internet) via AF wrote: I’ve found when you enable sync the throughput reduces a fair bit, mor

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT GPS

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
On LTU or AirMax AC? On 8/26/2020 10:31 PM, Rhys Cuff (Speedweb Internet) via AF wrote: I’ve found when you enable sync the throughput reduces a fair bit, more than just the UL/DL ratio. Anyone else seen this? *From:*AF *On Behalf Of *Timothy Steele *Sent:* Thursday, 27 August 2020 11:03

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT GPS

2020-08-26 Thread Rhys Cuff (Speedweb Internet) via AF
I’ve found when you enable sync the throughput reduces a fair bit, more than just the UL/DL ratio. Anyone else seen this? From: AF On Behalf Of Timothy Steele Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2020 11:03 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT GPS Sync works but you have to

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread chuck
Wow, I am going to give this a try. Thanks From: Charles Boening Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 8:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a basic question How about this? Microsoft has finally implemented an official way to use both Static and Dynamic IP simulta

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread Charles Boening
How about this? Microsoft has finally implemented an official way to use both Static and Dynamic IP simultaneously on one NIC. Reportedly, this feature was added in Windows 10 Creators Update 1703. The key to using this feature is the new dhcpstaticipcoexistence parameter in netsh. https://tr

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT GPS

2020-08-26 Thread Timothy Steele
Sync works but you have to follow same guidelines as any other You can only sync radios that are back to back Make sure The AP's using the same channel can not hear each other in a site survey Make sure your separation of the AP's on the same channel are good enough so your clients don't see bot

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream Bandwidth Question

2020-08-26 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] Upstream Bandwidth Question Mike, I'll make sure there is something there, before I build there. -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com -- Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 5:17:00 PM, you wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream Bandwidth Question

2020-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
It depends on the frequency and duration of fiber cuts / outages. I used to think reliability was everything. Lately, customers whine about bandwidth constantly. If there is a several hour outage once or twice a year, they whine a little and then forget it. But speed is at the top of the hie

Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles

2020-08-26 Thread chuck
My wife is like that. I am just the opposite. I am so comfortable at height that I fear stepping off into nothingness if I get preoccupied with a phone call. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 3:02 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Composite Pole

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream Bandwidth Question

2020-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Agreed, but it sounded like he may have to build 9 miles and wasn't sure of what he was going to get when he got there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "can...@believewireless.net"

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream Bandwidth Question

2020-08-26 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I prefer multiple ingress/egress points. You could have 100 different upstreams but if they go across one fiber line, you are screwed. On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 4:50 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > I'm always in favor of more diversity. I'd go with an additional > wavelength, even if it's out of the same

Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
Wow. On 8/26/2020 5:02 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I have whatever the fancy word is for fear of heights.  If I don’t look straight ahead, I get vertigo just driving over a freeway overpass. But one time I figured I’d be OK climbing the 20 ft Rohn 25 a customer had just put up, out by the road to

Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles

2020-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have whatever the fancy word is for fear of heights. If I don’t look straight ahead, I get vertigo just driving over a freeway overpass. But one time I figured I’d be OK climbing the 20 ft Rohn 25 a customer had just put up, out by the road to get line of sight. Someone had told me never

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream Bandwidth Question

2020-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm always in favor of more diversity. I'd go with an additional wavelength, even if it's out of the same POP you're already in, just going somewhere else (and is diverse as possible, when using a single POP. Bigger pipes going to the same places (assuming the small pipes are sufficient to ha

Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles

2020-08-26 Thread chuck
And twist. It is the twist that can throw off a large 10’ dish aim without too much effort. From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles Correct me if I’m wrong, but some freestanding towers have a signi

Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah, but they feel worse than they really are.  If it was moving 2 inches you'd say, "wow this thing moves a lot".  If it moves 2 feet you might need to barf. On 8/26/2020 3:05 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Correct me if I’m wrong, but some freestanding towers have a significant amount of sway at t

Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles

2020-08-26 Thread Matt Hoppes
Correct me if I’m wrong, but some freestanding towers have a significant amount of sway at the top of them don’t they? > On Aug 26, 2020, at 2:48 PM, can...@believewireless.net > wrote: > >  > At first I read that as 10 inches. Then realized it was 10 feet. WOW I'd > freak if I saw my po

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream Bandwidth Question

2020-08-26 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Cassidy, I think that will be the tipping point. If I can truly get a pair of dark fibers to a data center, I think that would justify the 9 mile build out. If I can only get a wave to the data center, then I'll have to think about it a bit more. -- Best regards, Mark

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream Bandwidth Question

2020-08-26 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
All depends on costs. We priced out 2x10G vs 1x100G between two datacenters, and with the XC charges on both sides of the pipe for 2x10G, the 1x100G came in cheaper. If you did “B”, you could light your own 100G for the cost of a 9 mile run + dark fiber lease. > On Aug 26, 2020, at 12:32 PM

[AFMUG] Upstream Bandwidth Question

2020-08-26 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
We are starting to get close enough on upstream bandwidth, where I need to start thinking about getting some more. Currently we have two 10G ports going to two different data centers. With the internet connections, IX links and current hardware, I can pull about 8GB max from each port.

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread Bill Prince
What about smart ass people? Most of the people on this list qualify for that. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:18 AM Steve Jones wrote: > thats an option for smart people, not me > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:02 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > >> If that's an option for y

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread Steve Jones
thats an option for smart people, not me On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:02 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > If that's an option for you, then you're a lot more motivated than me. > > On 8/26/2020 1:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > writing your own tcp stack is an option > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread Bill Prince
Yeah. If you have a 'tik on the network either as your gateway, or maybe as an appliance, you can use it as a bridge to any subnet you want. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 9:58 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Since I'm a cheater: > > I used to get my DHCP address and set it

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
If that's an option for you, then you're a lot more motivated than me. On 8/26/2020 1:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote: writing your own tcp stack is an option -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Homemade Commuter Croissant

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
I'd had the fast food breakfast sandwiches before.  The first time I made one at home I realized that the fast food joints took something stunningly good and made a version that was merely "ok".   It's dead simple:  bread product, eggs, cheese, meat.  You can't screw that up, but somehow they m

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread Steve Jones
scripts is easiest. writing your own tcp stack is an option virtual adapters is an option secondary tik is what i have for techs so nothing needs reconfigured if you find the answer to your question, i want to know On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:58 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Since I'm a cheater: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-26 Thread Steve Jones
got a whole milwaukee packout kit too, have a trucks worth of tools in it with the milwaukee packout backpack, nice and modular, can be put into about any vehicle, only need to bring out the trays for the project at hand. these are all i use for 99 percent of ladder work now https://www.grainger.c

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT GPS

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
Ubiquiti now vs Ubiquiti back then is a night and day difference. So far I'm happy with the LTU product.  I know other people who seem to think the Airmax AC is better.   I'm not gonna argue that point either way, but they're both a good value.  Their current UI puts a lot of info in front of

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-26 Thread Steve Jones
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-Shockwave-Impact-Duty-Drill-and-Drive-Set-26-Piece-48-32-4408/203820400 This set right here is one that i carry with a couple extra size and type specific and use the most, the milwakee enclosures are adjustable so you can load out task specific kits. I prefe

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
Since I'm a cheater: I used to get my DHCP address and set it statically.  Then I could add extra IP's in common subnets for device management.  My default gateway goes with the office IP, so I have LAN/Internet access, but since my computer also has 192.168.1.x and 169.254.1.x and 192.168.0.x

Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles

2020-08-26 Thread Bill Prince
Several years ago there was a company that had manufactured tons of composite poles thinking they were going to corner the market for telephone poles in China. Except that China leap-frogged and went mostly wireless; hence not really needing telephone poles composite or not. Wish I could remember

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread Matt Corcoran
On windows I used netsetman for while to switch between configurations, but the bigger issue was I could never get Windows to run DHCP and a static ip at the same time.If you don’t run DHCP and statics at the same time, you can’t access the cpe while also having access to your network or VP

Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles

2020-08-26 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Poles that are made of composite materials, not wood nor concrete or metal… From: AF on behalf of Chuck McCown Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 11:37 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles Not sure what that i

Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles

2020-08-26 Thread Brian Webster
Adam Moffett can probably offer up some good input. Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 11:31 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Composite Poles

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread chuck
Yeah... screw that... I will just recreate all my scripts. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a basic question Multiple NICs On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 9:42 AM Craig Baird wrote: Multiple NICs? Maybe get a USB

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah the step ladder is critical. The pipe wrench really isn't.  I know it's from my own list, but I don't really use it that often.  Sometimes it's helpful to be able to hold onto a round object, and sometimes it's just a spare hammer, and sometimes it's the only thing I have that'll turn a n

[AFMUG] UBNT GPS

2020-08-26 Thread Craig Baird
So I've been out of the WISP business for a few years now, but I have a project where I'm considering using some UBNT gear. I'm wondering if the new GPS sync gear is decent. From what I've read, they've fixed the issues that were present years ago in their first sync attempt. Specifically, I'm con

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
Multiple NICs On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 9:42 AM Craig Baird wrote: > Multiple NICs? Maybe get a USB ethernet dongle for the laptop. Also, if > you can access your internal networks via WiFi, that would fix that issue. > Of course, this all assumes that your various IP subnets don't conflict or > ove

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread chuck
I am glad to see there is no stupid-simple solution that I was simply unaware of. I think I will re-create the scripts and icons. They were simple and worked well. Just took a bit of study to create them in the first place. From: Craig Baird Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:41 AM To: Ani

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-26 Thread chuck
Shorting will not disconnect. It will make a click. Opening the line will hang it up. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:41 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list I think if you short a line you can hang up someone's phone. If I'm playing with

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-26 Thread chuck
Reminds me of college. We used lots of wireless breadboards. To get signals into and out of those little socket strips we used frog stickers. The biology department used them to pin the parts of a frog to a slab of wax during dissection. Stainless needle in the end of a wooden dowel. About th

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread Craig Baird
Multiple NICs? Maybe get a USB ethernet dongle for the laptop. Also, if you can access your internal networks via WiFi, that would fix that issue. Of course, this all assumes that your various IP subnets don't conflict or overlap in any way. Craig On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 9:35 AM Jim Bouse [Brazo

Re: [AFMUG] Firestick clocking?

2020-08-26 Thread Bill Prince
+1. I discovered this a few months ago. My Roku was getting slower with some of the apps; many of which I didn't use. I discovered that (1) You can delete the ones you don't use (this speeds it up considerably as it frees memory), and (2) You can move the apps around (so I put the few that I use a

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
I think if you short a line you can hang up someone's phone.  If I'm playing with one line maybe I don't want to accidentally touch the others.  Also bare fibers are tiny, and sometimes a little plastic pick or spudger is helpful to manipulate them in a tray. I'm not sure if Chuck's installers

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
I got a 10 pack on Amazon for next to nothing. On 8/25/2020 3:13 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Where do you buy those booger picks? On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:05 PM > wrote: 5’ step ladder *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:49 PM *To

Re: [AFMUG] Composite Poles

2020-08-26 Thread chuck
Not sure what that is. From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:30 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Composite Poles Hey List, Anyone has deployed composite poles for fiber deployments? Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
We use a program called NetSetMan. It’s inexpensive for commercial use. Jim Bouse Owner - Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 http://www.brazoswifi.com From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 10:25 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] a basic q

Re: [AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread David Coudron
I started carrying the Mikrokik mAP. Set up the wireless to DHCP an address to my laptop in a subnet range we never use on our network and add outside addresses for all the common subnets you’d normally plug your laptop into. The mAP plugs into USB for power so you only need the ethernet cab

[AFMUG] Composite Poles

2020-08-26 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Hey List, Anyone has deployed composite poles for fiber deployments? Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://gallery.mailchimp.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/2a19bac2-257e-4f73-9295-a89a9c48a166.png] [https://image.ibb.co

[AFMUG] a basic question

2020-08-26 Thread chuck
I feel silly asking this but I honestly don’t know if there is a better way. Willing to risk the embarrassment of a simple answer. Frequently plugging a laptop into a management port or something. 192.168.1.1 So I need to set the laptop IP manually to 192.168.1.11 or some such thing. Then I f

Re: [AFMUG] Customer Battery Backup - FTTH ONT+Router?

2020-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
I know our guys have put both an ONT and a Mikrotik on one of those Cyberpower UPS's.  I never looked closely at how they did it, but if there aren't two outputs then I'd assume they just double tapped it. FYI: The output voltage is the same as the battery/charger voltage, so if your device ca

Re: [AFMUG] Firestick clocking?

2020-08-26 Thread chuck
You can delete all the unused apps on Roku and I think you can re arrange the apps too. I only use Roku anymore. Seems to be fine all the time. From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 8:30 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Firestick clocking? Wow, I ha

Re: [AFMUG] Firestick clocking?

2020-08-26 Thread Bill Prince
You know you can re-order the placement of the apps on a Roku? -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:31 AM Nate Burke wrote: > Wow, I have the exact Opposite. I would take my Firestick over my Roku > anyday. Firestick is way more responsive. I only use 2 apps on my Roku

Re: [AFMUG] Firestick clocking?

2020-08-26 Thread Nate Burke
Wow, I have the exact Opposite. I would take my Firestick over my Roku anyday. Firestick is way more responsive. I only use 2 apps on my Roku, day to day they will either be somewhere on the front page, or 2-3 page scrolls away with a bunch of other random apps showing on the home page. On

Re: [AFMUG] Firestick clocking?

2020-08-26 Thread dave
Throw that shit in the garbage and get a Roku or something similar Fire sticks cause so much in home wifi issues..  the remote lands on the same channel as any wifi in the house and utterly destroys and disrupts service to other devices. Its a real piece of work. On 8/25/20 10:52 PM, Steve Ut