Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Steve Jones
Ah, makes sense On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 10:12 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Troop deployment. WW I. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2020 9:51 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question > > > > I always wo

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Troop deployment. WW I. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 9:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question I always wondered how it travelled so well given the limits of personal travel at the time. Something

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Steve Jones
I always wondered how it travelled so well given the limits of personal travel at the time. Something anywhere near as virulent today is petrifying. As a matter of fact, I think the level of petrifying for something like that is equal to the level of panic the media is shooting for with the current

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread chuck
Lasting from January 1918 to December 1920, it infected 500 million people—about a quarter of the world's population at the time.[2] The death toll is estimated to have been anywhere from 17 million[3] to 50 million, and possibly as high as 100 million, making it one of the deadliest epidemics i

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted PBX

2020-03-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
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Re: [AFMUG] OT..caldillo con fideo y tortillas de maiz

2020-03-22 Thread Steve Jones
I hope you get quarantined with a full pantry, 14 days of food pics On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 4:38 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Salud mi fine feathered wispers et Al > Lucky man am I. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list A

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
When did it start? Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: Subject: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question Date: Sun, Mar 22, 2020 3:46 PM Within 10 days, over 1,000 Philadelphians lay dead, with another 200,000 estimated ill, and the state government in Har

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted PBX

2020-03-22 Thread Jon Langeler
Ring Central is what we use. No issues Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Mar 21, 2020, at 7:44 PM, Matt wrote: > >  > Right now we have a fortinet phone system with good number of extensions. > Thinking of switching to hosted pbx to make it easier to use phone from home, > when

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
But those people are self quarantining now in their toilet paper forts. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 8:22 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question A china used the tried and true cure in 5.56 dosages B. If

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Steve Jones
A china used the tried and true cure in 5.56 dosages B. If we had it bad, we would have a ton of "flu" patients on vents. Simple logic. But we will have a need for the vents since the media succeeded in the frenzy and sent everybody to the walmart. Given it's original trajectory in a sanitary nat

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Jason McKemie
What damage is that? On Sunday, March 22, 2020, Steve Jones wrote: > Good luck getting the mobs to accept that, it's too late now anyway. > Nobody is sheltering in place still, even after all the damage we did > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 12:45 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > >> Walmart and most grocery

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Bill Prince
Simply because they've been testing about 100X more people than we have. bp On 3/22/2020 4:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: how do you figure? On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 7:13 PM Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
how do you figure? On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 7:13 PM Bill Prince wrote: > China's numbers are way more believable than ours. > > bp > > > > On 3/22/2020 4:09 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > > Tyson, > > I wondered the exact same thing about China, I don't trust any of the > information coming out of

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Bill Prince
China's numbers are way more believable than ours. bp On 3/22/2020 4:09 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Tyson, I wondered the exact same thing about China, I don't trust any of the information coming out of there

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Tyson, I wondered the exact same thing about China, I don't trust any of the information coming out of there. I do believe the numbers coming out of Italy right now which keep getting higher and higher daily. On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 6:01 PM Tyson Burris wrote: > Am I the only scratching my hea

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Bill Prince
The US numbers are off by as much as a factor of 10. Russia's numbers are worse than that, and India still worse. This has been circulating globally for many weeks now. It is no longer a matter of containment, but trying to blunt the spread. Many, many people we

Re: [AFMUG] are liquor stores essential? pot stores?

2020-03-22 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Ohio governor's orders today did include Pot stores as "essential medical facilities" On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 4:01 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Pot stores are covered under "medicine" > Booze needs to be available to keep drunks inside > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 2:47 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > >> I saw

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Tyson Burris
Am I the only scratching my head a bit over China’s sudden (or perhaps unreported) lack of infection? How are some of these countries with such large populations nearly unaffected in some cases. (India as an example) I am not one to buy into outlandish ideas but its becoming curious to me. I do

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
But that was the height of “yellow journalism”, as in Hearst vs Pulitzer. Well, actually it was somewhat earlier, around the Spanish-American War. But rabid news media is not a new thing. I think yellow journalism lives on in the British tabloids. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_jour

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Steve Jones
Those who something something the past are condemned to something something Imagine how bad that would have been had they had simple 100 mile radius travel and a rabid news media On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 3:47 PM wrote: > Within 10 days, over 1,000 Philadelphians lay dead, with another 200,000 > es

[AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread chuck
Within 10 days, over 1,000 Philadelphians lay dead, with another 200,000 estimated ill, and the state government in Harrisburg ordered the city’s public amusements and gathering places closed down, a ban that shuttered saloons, theaters, ice cream parlors and movie theaters. It was too little, t

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted PBX

2020-03-22 Thread Daniel White
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Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread chuck
Yeah, that old Woodrow Wilson was quite a fascist... News from 102 years ago: The failure of Philadelphia’s government to respond quickly and forcefully should have alerted other elected officials to the crisis. In some cases, it did, as in San Diego, where city officials took heed of the car

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/22/20 1:02 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Someone just asked Governor Pritzker during his daily press conference about letters like these and he said emphatically no, you do not need them, nobody in law enforcement is going to ask for papers. But I was clearly told on facebook that only a fasci

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Someone just asked Governor Pritzker during his daily press conference about letters like these and he said emphatically no, you do not need them, nobody in law enforcement is going to ask for papers. Doesn't necessarily apply to other states, that's the answer for Illinois. From: AF On Be

Re: [AFMUG] are liquor stores essential? pot stores?

2020-03-22 Thread Steve Jones
Pot stores are covered under "medicine" Booze needs to be available to keep drunks inside On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 2:47 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > I saw a joke that they were kept open for all of the parents that normally > work all day, but now have to spend a couple weeks straight with their kids.

Re: [AFMUG] are liquor stores essential? pot stores?

2020-03-22 Thread Mike Hammett
I saw a joke that they were kept open for all of the parents that normally work all day, but now have to spend a couple weeks straight with their kids. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] are liquor stores essential? pot stores?

2020-03-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
Liquor Stores are essential because if you cut off alcohol from alcoholics they can experience severe medical issues. On 3/22/20 3:02 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I noticed in the Illinois governor’s order, pot stores are essential and can stay open.  Now I heard on CNN that in New York, liquor stores

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Mike Hammett
At Walmart, you can check out without actually any of their equipment. The Walmart Pay app lets you pay with a saved card. Target may be the same, I just haven't done it recently. Sam's you don't even have to go to the checkout. Just scan everything with your phone and leave. Those met

[AFMUG] are liquor stores essential? pot stores?

2020-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
I noticed in the Illinois governor's order, pot stores are essential and can stay open. Now I heard on CNN that in New York, liquor stores are deemed essential and can stay open. The city of Aurora here in Illinois is allowing restaurants to sell package liquor with takeout or delivery food or

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Bill Prince
We have been preparing to put new floors in our two north bedrooms. I ordered what we wanted from HD online. They texted/emailed me later that day to say the stuff was ready. I went down there armed with hand sanitizer, disinfecting wipes, and latex gloves

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Same here, although grocery stores are still getting a lot of traffic and are of course not shut down. I checked yesterday with the local Ace HW and they will still be open, although somewhat reduced hours, and with a system to keep people from bunching up at the checkout. I was kind of obs

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Go first thing in the morning. Get in, get out, keep some distance from other people, use the self checkout and a card, wash your hands when you get back. If Walmart is your only choice, they may have wipes at the entrance to wipe off the basket. I prefer the hand baskets to the carts. That’

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread chuck
Nobody on the highways around here. From: Steve Jones Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:48 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question Good luck getting the mobs to accept that, it's too late now anyway. Nobody is sheltering in place still, even afte

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Steve Jones
Good luck getting the mobs to accept that, it's too late now anyway. Nobody is sheltering in place still, even after all the damage we did On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 12:45 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Walmart and most grocery stores deliver and if they don’t deliver you can > order online and pickup ou

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Sean Heskett
Walmart and most grocery stores deliver and if they don’t deliver you can order online and pickup outside. On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 10:49 AM Steve Jones wrote: > Fighting with the wife about popping out to the store to get some things > of convenience. I think its irresponsible, she wants some m

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted PBX

2020-03-22 Thread Erich Kaiser
We use Netsapiens, if you can host it yourself, in the long run it makes more sense. Their NMS is rock solid. We use bandwidth.com for the service portion. On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 6:44 PM Matt wrote: > Right now we have a fortinet phone system with good number of extensions. > Thinking of sw

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread Steve Jones
Fighting with the wife about popping out to the store to get some things of convenience. I think its irresponsible, she wants some more peanut butter, cause the 3 open jars are apparently no good. I assume this type of conversation is common. We spread this through. Walmart fear shopping and made

Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question

2020-03-22 Thread chuck
What will calling the number do? Seems the letter will works as is. From: Mitch Koep Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 10:27 AM To: Ken Hohhof ; af@af.afmug.com >> AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] shelter in place question see attached letter call the number they will tell

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted PBX

2020-03-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Isn’t Daniel White at a private label VoIP outfit now? I think the name is Atheral. From: AF On Behalf Of Jason Wilson Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 11:23 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hosted PBX Spin up an 3cx instance. On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 5:56