Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Steven Langdale
I guess I don't see the difference. If logical corruption (rm -r * in the filepool or tsm screws up and deletes vols), the copy pool could be just as corrupt as the main pool. if the copy pool is in the same dd, then a dd failure would trash both anyway and you're in a DR situation. The snapsho

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Richard Rhodes
e snapshot is only over the local dd, so we cut snapshots on both dd's at the same time. Rick From: Steven Langdale To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 06/17/2011 01:22 PM Subject: Re: tsm and data domain Sent by:"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" > We debated h

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Steven Langdale
We debated having a copy pool when doing our DD setup. We finally decided that using a daily DD snapshot was an acceptable solution. We take a Rick The problem with that is that you'd just be replicating a logical corruption. So unless you noticed it before your last snapshot expired, you be

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Cowen, Richard
mson To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 06/17/2011 11:10 AM Subject: Re: tsm and data domain Sent by:"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Steven, I agree, you comment is regard to the copy pools is something I am a little concerned with. I am preparing the move from 5.5 to ver 6

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Ben Bullock
U] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:50 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain Any one use emc's data domain devices for storage pools and replication Would like to here positive and negative issues. Thanks, Tim Brown Systems Specialist

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Richard Rhodes
ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 06/17/2011 11:10 AM Subject: Re: tsm and data domain Sent by:"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Steven, I agree, you comment is regard to the copy pools is something I am a little concerned with. I am preparing the move from 5.5 to ver 6.2 now and am i

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Robert Clark
boxes running Linux. [RC] From: Rick Adamson To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 06/17/2011 06:47 AM Subject:Re: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain Sent by:"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" I have had DD implemented for about a year now, but I fail to understand why anyone would

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Rick Adamson
- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Steven Langdale Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:30 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain > > I have had DD implemented for about a year now, but I fail to understand > why anyone w

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Steven Langdale
> > I have had DD implemented for about a year now, but I fail to understand > why anyone would utilize the DD VTL license when using TSM? > > Mine are setup as a simple SAN device with defined directories that > correspond to my TSM primary storage pools. I have the device calss in > TSM set as th

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Nancy L Leugemors
-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 06/17/2011 09:20 AM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Brian, The DD has dedup by volume. If you lookup the contents of a volume on TSM, you can get an feeling for how dedup varies. The resulting information is "app

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
and using NFS, but the network ruled that out. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick Adamson Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:35 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain I have had DD

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Hart, Charles A
). This thread is a great read! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Cowen, Richard Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:15 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain Brian, The DD has dedup by volume. If you lookup

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Rick Adamson
imits. Interested in feedback. ~Rick Adamson Jacksonville, FL. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of PAC Brion Arnaud Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 3:11 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain Tim,

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
T.EDU] On Behalf Of Cowen, Richard Sent: Friday, 17 June, 2011 15:15 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: tsm and data domain Brian, The DD has dedup by volume. If you lookup the contents of a volume on TSM, you can get an feeling for how dedup varies. The resulting information is "approx

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Cowen, Richard
: 8,403,079,871, meta-data: 154,714,124, bytes/storage_used: 5.6 Richard -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of PAC Brion Arnaud Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 3:11 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain Tim, We

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Nancy L Leugemors
cost) for our Sybase databases seeing that they took up 40% of our storage. Nancy Leugemors Enterprise Systems HealthNow, NY 716-887-7979 From: Richard Rhodes To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 06/17/2011 08:33 AM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager&qu

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Richard Rhodes
k From: Tim Brown To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 06/16/2011 03:54 PM Subject: tsm and data domain Sent by:"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" Any one use emc's data domain devices for storage pools and replication Would like to here positive and negative

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread Nick Laflamme
On Jun 16, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Paul Zarnowski wrote: > At 05:59 PM 6/16/2011, Nick Laflamme wrote: >> We need to do a bake-off -- or study someone else's -- between using >> deduplication in a DataDomain box and using both client-side deduplication >> and server-side deduplication in TSM V6 and th

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-17 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
19 78 e-mail: arnaud.br...@panalpina.com ** -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Thursday, 16 June, 2011 21:50 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: tsm and

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-16 Thread Paul Zarnowski
At 05:59 PM 6/16/2011, Nick Laflamme wrote: >We need to do a bake-off -- or study someone else's -- between using >deduplication in a DataDomain box and using both client-side deduplication and >server-side deduplication in TSM V6 and then writing to relatively >inexpensive, relatively simple (b

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-16 Thread Nick Laflamme
On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Tim Brown wrote: > Any one use emc's data domain devices for storage pools and replication > > Would like to here positive and negative issues. My current employer has dozens of DataDomain DD690s and DD880s, all arranged in pairs in which one is primary and one is a

Re: tsm and data domain

2011-06-16 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
of work, but I try to avoid it anyway. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:50 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] tsm and data domain Any one use emc's data d

tsm and data domain

2011-06-16 Thread Tim Brown
Any one use emc's data domain devices for storage pools and replication Would like to here positive and negative issues. Thanks, Tim Brown Systems Specialist - Project Leader Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: tbr...@cenhud.com <

Re: TSM and Data Domain

2007-10-10 Thread Curtis Preston
--- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Heikel Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:38 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L

Re: TSM and Data Domain

2007-10-10 Thread Cory Heikel
he details of the tape marker setting? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Heikel Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:38 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM and Data Domain We are averaging about 11/1 with data

Re: TSM and Data Domain

2007-10-10 Thread William Jean
Can you share the details of the tape marker setting? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Heikel Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:38 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM and Data Domain We are averaging about 11

Re: TSM and Data Domain

2007-10-10 Thread Cory Heikel
We are averaging about 11/1 with data domain on a mix of data. One thing we found was the need to update a setting for tsm tape marker parameter, which almost doubled our performance. Cory Heikel Tivoli Systems Administrator Hershey Medical Center (717) 531-7972 >>> Dirk Kastens <[EMAIL PROT

Re: TSM and Data Domain

2007-10-09 Thread Dirk Kastens
Kenneth, Bradberry, Kenneth schrieb: I am currently looking at Data Domain as a possible VTL and de-duplication vender. Can anyone share there experiences with Data Domain with TSM? We just tested a DataDomain machine with TSM. The results were not as good as we expected. It shows a very good

Re: TSM and Data Domain

2007-10-09 Thread Lepre, James
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bradberry, Kenneth Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:49 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM and Data Domain I am currently looking at Data Domain as a possible VTL and de-duplication vender. Can anyone share there experiences with Data Domain

TSM and Data Domain

2007-10-09 Thread Bradberry, Kenneth
I am currently looking at Data Domain as a possible VTL and de-duplication vender. Can anyone share there experiences with Data Domain with TSM? I am also looking at SEPATON as an "out of band" solution as well. Thanks, Ken Bradberry.