Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-19 Thread Paul Zarnowski
Seems like a reasonable compromise would be to just write a script that marks full copy vols as offsite, and leave them that way. Once they go to pending or empty, they'd be changed back to onsite. I can live with the occasional filling volume being reclaimed from copy vols instead of primary vo

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-19 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:37:19 -0500, Thomas Denier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The reclamation you describe still creates a volume with 100% of > its capacity available for future writes, Future, exactly. Certainly not "right now". I have reusedelay at somewhere about 5. > at the cost of wri

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-19 Thread Thomas Denier
-Allen S. Rout wrote: - >I've whined about this from time to time... I've had tapes 10% full >get 60% reclaimable and then they get copied. I see no reason to >reclaim a filling tape unless you figure you can get back at least > >(reclaimpercent * max(estcapacity,actualcap)) > >bytes

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-19 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:22:30 -0500, Thomas Denier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Yes. We occasionally see onsite filling volumes reclaimed. The mix > of tape contents that causes this is typically something like the > following: 51% of the tape occupied by files that have gone inactive > and then

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-19 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:35:49 -0500, Paul Zarnowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > At 02:38 PM 11/17/2008, Wanda Prather wrote: >> No reason I know of you can't have an auto script that does update vol * >> wherestgpool=copypool access=offsite every day before you start your >> reclaims. > Seems

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-19 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:00:09 -0500, Paul Zarnowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > At 12:50 PM 11/17/2008, Allen S. Rout wrote: >> >> On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:09:55 -0500, Paul Zarnowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> But I'm going to claim you don't want to do this, and the bandwidth >> utilization is in f

Fw: Remote tape drives

2008-11-17 Thread Nicholas Cassimatis
zed, with nothing expired from it yet, will reclaim if the reclamation threshold for the storagepool is set at 60%. Nick Cassimatis - Forwarded by Nicholas Cassimatis/Raleigh/IBM on 11/17/2008 05:14 PM - "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 11/17/2008 03:40:19 PM: > > Re

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-17 Thread Thomas Denier
-Paul Zarnowski wrote: - >Seems like if I did this, all the output would have to go to newly >allocated scratch tapes. No tapes in filling status would be used. >I could only update the full volumes, I suppose, but are there cases >where filling tapes can be reclaimed? Yes. We occasional

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-17 Thread Fred Johanson
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Remote tape drives At 02:38 PM 11/17/2008, Wanda Prather wrote: >No reason I know of you can't have an auto script that does update vol * >wherestgpool=copypool access=offsite every day before you start your >reclaims. Seems like if I did this, all th

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-17 Thread Paul Zarnowski
At 02:38 PM 11/17/2008, Wanda Prather wrote: No reason I know of you can't have an auto script that does update vol * wherestgpool=copypool access=offsite every day before you start your reclaims. Seems like if I did this, all the output would have to go to newly allocated scratch tapes. No ta

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-17 Thread Wanda Prather
>> > >>> > + I have some servers storing remote volumes of 50G MAXCAP, some of >>> > 20. I haven't noted a big difference between them. Biggest >>> > theoretical basis for choosing I can come up with is the speed of >>> > round-robin

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-17 Thread Wanda Prather
> + My biggest pain in the patoot so far comes from individual files >> > that are much bigger than the remote volume size. I hate re-sending >> > an initial chunk, then 4 intermediate volumes I know to be identical >> > to the remote volumes already present, and then re-s

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-17 Thread Paul Zarnowski
At 12:50 PM 11/17/2008, Allen S. Rout wrote: >> On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:09:55 -0500, Paul Zarnowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > We are just in the process of creating copy volumes which we intend > to relocate to an off-site library in a few months. I want to make certain I'm responding to this

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-17 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:09:55 -0500, Paul Zarnowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > We are just in the process of creating copy volumes which we intend > to relocate to an off-site library in a few months. I want to make certain I'm responding to this correctly; I've been talking about remote virt

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-17 Thread Paul Zarnowski
the local site. This means that you can deadlock your way into a > mess of 'no tapes available' if you get congested. > > I find this to be a metastable situation: Things go very smoothly > until you hit some boundary condition, and then you have a > turbulence incide

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-17 Thread Wanda Prather
adlock your way into a > mess of 'no tapes available' if you get congested. > > I find this to be a metastable situation: Things go very smoothly > until you hit some boundary condition, and then you have a > turbulence incident which takes intense, sustained effort to &g

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-10 Thread Allen S. Rout
ident which takes intense, sustained effort to resolve. > How do you know how big the "reallly big pipe" needs to be to take > care of the reclaims? This I -do- have a theoretical answer for. See above when I talked about round-robin on the remote tape drives? You want a pipe b

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-07 Thread Allen S. Rout
FCIP. I > gather that there are TSM sites with remote tape drives. Does their > experience offer strong reasons to favor or avoid particular > options? Just use the network; remote virtual volumes can be as efficient, with less complexity. I have gotten up to 60MB/s 350 miles away. Make

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-05 Thread Richard Rhodes
cated fibre, FCP over shared fibre with wave division multiplexing, iFCP, and FCIP. I gather that there are TSM sites with remote tape drives. Does their experience offer strong reasons to favor or avoid particular options? - The information contained

Re: Remote tape drives

2008-11-04 Thread Rick Saylor
ptions for extending FCP tape drive connections over distances in this range: FCP over dedicated fibre, FCP over shared fibre with wave division multiplexing, iFCP, and FCIP. I gather that there are TSM sites with remote tape drives. Does their experience offer strong reasons to favor or avoid particul

Remote tape drives

2008-11-04 Thread Thomas Denier
range: FCP over dedicated fibre, FCP over shared fibre with wave division multiplexing, iFCP, and FCIP. I gather that there are TSM sites with remote tape drives. Does their experience offer strong reasons to favor or avoid particular options?