On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:57:44AM -0500, Sergio Fuentes wrote:
> Any thoughts from anyone running a TSM server on Solaris?
I recently installed TSM 5.5.1 server code on a Sun X4540
("Thumper 2") with 2 x 2.3GHz quad-core Opterons, 32GB RAM, 48 x
1TB 7200RPM internal SATA disks, 3 PCIe slots, and
Alex Paschal writes:
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> Have a look at the 'fcstat' command recently introduced into AIX. This
> will output an unpleasant bunch of data, but some nice scripting can
> isolate the FC SCSI Traffic Input Bytes and Output Bytes lines for the
> desired HBA, even if the HBA doesn't have disk on
: Tape performance (was: Re: Preferred TSM Platform)
And on this one . . .
Have you tried nmone with ^ ?
And what is the fcstat command in? AIX? Not in my man pages and find
doesn't show "fcstat".
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And on this one . . .
Have you tried nmone with ^ ?
And what is the fcstat command in? AIX? Not in my man pages and find
doesn't show "fcstat".
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performance (was: Re: Preferred TSM Platform)
And on this one . . .
Have you tried nmone with ^ ?
And what is the fcstat command in? AIX? Not in my man pages and find
doesn't show "fcstat".
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Subject: Re: Tape performance (was: Re: Preferred TSM Platform)
Rick Saylor wrote:
>
> Instead of selecting 'a' on nmon try '^' instead. This will give you
> the FC adapter stats from fcstat. At least it does on version 12e
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Tape performance (was: Re: Preferred TSM Platform)
I wrote a small script to collect the snmp data from the Brocade fibre
switches and put the data into
An interesting source of tape drive performance data is the TSM server
itself, in the SUMMARY table.
Extract it with SELECT into a comma-delimited or tab-delimited file, and
then read it in to any popular statistical program like SPSS or SAS. You
have to match up the records for processes such as
I wrote a small script to collect the snmp data from the Brocade fibre
switches and put the data into Servergraph.
Next I created a report to graph the data and in that way we could see
historical data throughput and identified more than once a faulty tape
drive!
You definitely want to monitor your
Rick Saylor wrote:
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> Instead of selecting 'a' on nmon try '^' instead. This will give you
> the FC adapter stats from fcstat. At least it does on version 12e of nmon.
Thanks, Rick! I was still running nmon 11e and didn't have this new
option (and I'm still at 5.3 TL8... at TL9 nmon is bundled i
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Wanda Prather wrote:
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Wanda Prather wrote:
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> And there is NO instrumentation in Windows to give you any idea whatever
> about what is going on performance-wise on a bus w
Instead of selecting 'a' on nmon try '^' instead. This will give you
the FC adapter stats from fcstat. At least it does on version 12e of nmon.
Rick Saylor
Austin Community College
At 04:59 AM 2/27/2009, you wrote:
Stef Coene wrote:
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> On Friday 27 February 2009, David Bronder wrote:
> >
> > U
On Friday 27 February 2009, David Bronder wrote:
> In my environment, at least, only fibre HBAs with disk connected to them
> appear in the nmon 'a'dapter screen, so my HBAs dedicated to tape drives
> are not listed. With 8 HBAs, 2 for LUNs and 6 for tape drives, I only see
> the 2 used for disk (
Stef Coene wrote:
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> On Friday 27 February 2009, David Bronder wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any real instrumentation in AIX
> > about tape drive performance, either. None of the standard AIX tools
> > seem to give tape-related information (e.g. iostat or nmon), either fo
On Friday 27 February 2009, David Bronder wrote:
> Wanda Prather wrote:
> > And there is NO instrumentation in Windows to give you any idea whatever
> > about what is going on performance-wise on a bus with tape drives
> > attached.
>
> Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any real instrumentati
Wanda Prather wrote:
>
> And there is NO instrumentation in Windows to give you any idea whatever
> about what is going on performance-wise on a bus with tape drives attached.
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any real instrumentation in AIX
about tape drive performance, either. None of the
CIe busses each for the P6
architecture that allows for significant I/O bandwith expansion -- for a
cost, of course.
Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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On Feb 26, 2009, at 21:04 , Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote:
and the cost for AIX..
I'm not saying that's a good idea, but TSM is supported on Linux for
pSeries. OTOH Usually AIX is not a major cost factor and Windows is
not exactly free either
I prefer AIX, I've s
ules with two PCIe busses each for the P6
architecture that allows for significant I/O bandwith expansion -- for a
cost, of course.
Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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Wanda
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Hey Tom.
I don't know that there's a "max" for the drive compression algorithm; it's
a function of the data.
I routinely see 2.1-2.2:1 on basic mixtures of file
ming full.
>
> I am glad to hear the X86 architecture scales this well - thanks, Kelly.
>
> Tom Kauffman
> NIBCO, Inc
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On Feb 26, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Kelly Lipp wrote:
IBM x3850, dual quad core processors, 16GB, 7 PCI-E slots with four
2.5" 15K SAS 73GB drives (have to use external storage on this guy),
around $14K. Can have up to four quad core procs, 256GB memory.
This is one screaming dude when used with TSM.
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Kelly Lipp
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I love it when somebody quotes me! Somebody is listening.
I had this discussion with one of our customers yesterday. It really
does/should boil down to the OS e
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I love it when somebody quotes me! Somebody is listening.
I had this discussion with one of our customers yesterday. It really
does/should boil down to the OS experience you have on hand. Do
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I love it when somebody quotes me! Somebody is listening.
I had this discussion with one
n
NIBCO, Inc
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I have to disagree with that. We routinely run multiple (up to six, and t
DB2 performs well on all platforms.
You just have to size memory and disk layout the correct way.
Aside from the Red books two good sources are:
Configuring and tuning Databases on the Solaris Platform by Allan N
Packer (a little dated but still good concepts)
Understanding DB2 Learning Visu
We have had a couple of customers over the years running TSM on Solaris. I
must echo Mike's comments. As Solaris would optimistically finish third in IBMs
race for resources there will necessarily be fewer resources both on the
development and support side. If/when there are problems they will
s for significant I/O bandwith expansion -- for a cost,
of course.
Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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lows for significant I/O bandwith expansion -- for a cost,
of course.
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NIBCO, Inc
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I love it when somebody quotes me! Somebody is listening.
I had this discussion with one of our customers yest
We're primarily a Solaris based TSM shop, our backup server platforms
are T2000's and T5220's currently which seem to be very good at handling
the I/O of the newer T1A & B drives along with the speeds of LTO's
and what not. Most of our servers are loaded up with dual port 4Gb
Emulex cards usua
We're actually considering a new platform for future TSM servers simply because
we're not an AIX shop anymore (TSM being the lone holdout). We're not a very
good windows shop either, and our strength is really in Solaris and/or Linux,
technically speaking.
When I compare the hardware and LVM fea
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I love it when somebody quotes me! Somebody is listening.
I had this discussion with one of our customers yesterday. It really
does/should boil down to the OS experience you have on hand. Does the AIX
platform have more capacity/performance t
I have said it before and I will say it again. If Windows had good hardware
then it would be just fine for TSM. Good Windows hardware cost way more then
middle level AIX hardware. The same is true for Linux running on AMD/Intel.
Andy Huebner
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I love it when somebody quotes me! Somebody is listening.
I had this discussion with one of our customers yesterday. It really
does/should boil down to the OS experience you have on hand. Does the AIX
platform have more capacity/performance than the best Windows platform? I'm
guessing it pr
>> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:57:37 +0100, Henrik Vahlstedt
>> said:
> Time to quote Kelly...
> "So to me it's either AIX or Windows (yes, you can do a lot of TSM
> on Windows once you get past the bigotry!). Choose whichever one
> you have the most experience with."
Ac! It BURNS usss, nass
On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Strand, Neil B. wrote:
consider Solaris
Actually I'm considering replacing my Linux TSM server with Solaris -
either SPARC or x86 - predominately because Solaris has a fast TCP/IP
stack, ZFS, and fewer driver issues than on Linux. Has anyone also
moved from Linux
This sounds like you did not turn off the RSM (Windows removable storage
management) service. RSM will take exclusive control of any tape/library
device, so this sounds like a configuration issue.
Library sharing and storage agents is functioning just as advertised on
both Linux, Windows and AIX (
Greetings,
We have 22 TSM servers and 5 Lan-free servers in our environment. AIX
is the host of choice, but we have 6 Windows TSM servers, and 3 of our
Lan-free servers are Windows. The 6 TSM Windows servers are all in
remote offices where we only have Windows support people, and we thought
havin
On Feb 25, 2009, at 18:17 , Thomas, Martin wrote:
I'd tend to agree but on Windows you have two "flavors" of 64bit.
"Real" 64 bit (Itanium, IA-64) and "emulated" (AMD's AMD64/x86-64 or
Intel's EMT64T:)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
Does someone have experience/metrics on both that w
I'd tend to agree but on Windows you have two "flavors" of 64bit. "Real" 64 bit
(Itanium, IA-64) and "emulated" (AMD's AMD64/x86-64 or Intel's EMT64T:)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
Does someone have experience/metrics on both that we could compare?
-- Martin
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Been there...tried to do that..and would never put TSM on a
Windoze box.
Your environment is a big factor in platform decisions.
When we first discussed moving off AIX (yes, I would have loved to have
stayed on AIX but it was decided by higher-ups that AIX was not a
"strategic platfor
If you are going to consider Solaris or HP for a TSM server, pause
and think when was the last time that these companies participated in a
lovefest? Trying to troubleshoot a driver, hba or performance issue
would be like asking a Nancy Pelosi to throw a birthday party for George
Bush.
Life is
Time to quote Kelly...
"So to me it's either AIX or Windows (yes, you can do a lot of TSM on
Windows once you get past the bigotry!). Choose whichever one you have
the most experience with."
//Henrik
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I agree with that up to a point.
"I/O, I/O, it's all about I/O" --- me
The majority of my customers have Windows TSM servers - precisely because
there are more small/medium sites in the world than large ones.
TSM on Windows is very stable and very effective. The only problem I have
with it is
I would stick with AIX as the #1 Choice just because the combo of
hardware and OS are unbeatable for this kind of thing. I've seen
Windows Servers Choke on half the amounts of data I move every day, and
I have yet to even use more than 1% of my proc, or use the swap space on
my AIX box.
Second fro
Well, IBM did drop support for 32bit Linux! I have 2-servers that can't
run V6.1 due to the hardware not supporting x86_64
"Bos, Karel"
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Use the OS you have the best support for in your shop. In our case we
have ITSM servers running on AIX and Windows.
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Karel Bos
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I have it on Windows OS, but i ll migrate it to AIX in the future...
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Remco Post wrote:
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>> Hi
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> Hi Ian, how's life?
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>> I am sure this question has been asked many times, however with server
>> and OS deve
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Hi Ian, how's life?
I am sure this question has been asked many times, however with server
and OS development what is the favored OS for TSM v5? I have always
preferred AIX however never been keen on Solaris and am considering
Windows instead.
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