Re: per-terabyte licensing deals...

2010-01-12 Thread Tyree, David
] On Behalf Of Frank Fegert Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:35 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] per-terabyte licensing deals... Hello, On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 02:22:42PM -0500, Allen S. Rout wrote: > Having seen some discussion of recent sighting of per-TB licensing in &g

Re: per-terabyte licensing deals...

2010-01-11 Thread Frank Fegert
Hello, On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 02:22:42PM -0500, Allen S. Rout wrote: > Having seen some discussion of recent sighting of per-TB licensing in > the wild, I trundled over to my business partner to get the skinny. > Fine BP said no such thing exists to his knowledge. > > Could one of you fine folks

per-terabyte licensing deals...

2010-01-11 Thread Allen S. Rout
Hey, ho. Having seen some discussion of recent sighting of per-TB licensing in the wild, I trundled over to my business partner to get the skinny. Fine BP said no such thing exists to his knowledge. Could one of you fine folks who have actually seen one of these go by provide a few more details,

Re: Open Letter to TSM Product Mangement. Was Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-30 Thread Schaub, Steve
] Open Letter to TSM Product Mangement. Was Per terabyte licensing I would like to add: Whatever you decide is "fair" for licensing the client - whether it be cores, or TB stored, or wombles, or hooha's, the client should REPORT BACK to the server how many wombles or hooha's it is

Re: Open Letter to TSM Product Mangement. Was Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-29 Thread Wanda Prather
> Subtract out the IBM bureaucracy and this is simple, right? > > Kelly Lipp > Chief Technical Officer > www.storserver.com > 719-266-8777 x7105 > STORServer solves your data backup challenges. > Once and for all. > > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dis

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-29 Thread Abbott, Joseph
hard Rhodes Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:42 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing We have sub-capacity licenses for TSM for some of our servers. We had to agree to install some kind of IBM licensing system. We haven't done it yet - but it's com

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-29 Thread Richard Rhodes
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Subject Manager"

Open Letter to TSM Product Mangement. Was Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-29 Thread Kelly Lipp
er www.storserver.com 719-266-8777 x7105 STORServer solves your data backup challenges. Once and for all. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of John D. Schneider Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:52 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subj

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-29 Thread John D. Schneider
Schneider Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:47 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing Kelly, You are right, IBM must build their license model to ensure the profit they expect. We can't blame them for doing this as a business. They can't give their produc

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-29 Thread John D. Schneider
aller customer has no leverage for expecting special pricing. Best Regards, John D. Schneider The Computer Coaching Community, LLC Office: (314) 635-5424 / Toll Free: (866) 796-9226 Cell: (314) 750-8721 Original Message Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing From:

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-28 Thread Mark Blunden
er www.storserver.com 719-266-8777 x7105 STORServer solves your data backup challenges. Once and for all. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of John D. Schneider Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:47 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-28 Thread Kelly Lipp
e: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing Kelly, You are right, IBM must build their license model to ensure the profit they expect. We can't blame them for doing this as a business. They can't give their product away for free. But the PVU based licensing model is a huge problem for

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-28 Thread John D. Schneider
riginal Message Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing From: Kelly Lipp Date: Mon, September 28, 2009 3:05 pm To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU And the key to that would be to add the phrase "in some cases..." No matter what IBM does there will be happy people and unhappy people. Wh

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-28 Thread Paul Zarnowski
t.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Langdale Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:38 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing He was a bit cagey about the actual cost, but said we should expect approx 20% reduction in overall cost. Not pursued it as yet. Steven Langdale Global Info

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-28 Thread Ochs, Duane
L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Per terabyte licensing And the key to that would be to add the phrase "in some cases..." No matter what IBM does there will be happy people and unhappy people. While a core based model doesn't make sense to many of us, a per TB model may turn out to make

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-28 Thread Kelly Lipp
m 719-266-8777 x7105 STORServer solves your data backup challenges. Once and for all. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Langdale Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:38 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte l

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-28 Thread Steven Langdale
)208 609 7400 Code: 331817 + Email: steven.langd...@cat.com Kelly Lipp Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 28/09/2009 19:00 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing Caterpillar: Confidentia

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-28 Thread Kelly Lipp
Langdale Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:02 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing My Tivoli S/W rep here in the UK is happy to sell by PVU or per TB. It sounds like it's not quite made it over the water yet. Steven Langdale Global Information Services

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-28 Thread Steven Langdale
0)208 609 7400 Code: 331817 + Email: steven.langd...@cat.com "John D. Schneider" Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 28/09/2009 15:38 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing Cat

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-28 Thread John D. Schneider
Toll Free: (866) 796-9226 Cell: (314) 750-8721 Original Message Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing From: "Ochs, Duane" Date: Mon, September 28, 2009 9:07 am To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU We are actually looking into the cost difference. >From what I unde

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-28 Thread Ochs, Duane
We are actually looking into the cost difference. >From what I understand, IBM is offering both. However, per terabyte licensing >eliminates sub-capacity licensing. And it is your entire site. Not just where it works out best. We are in the midst of passport renewals and found an increa

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-26 Thread Skylar Thompson
running > 15-VM guests. If I started counting by T-Bytes backed-up, it would cost > a lot more than 4-CPU's! > > > > From: > David Longo > To: > ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Date: > 09/25/2009 03:22 PM > Subject: > Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing >

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-25 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Or more costly. We have test VM servers with quad-core processors running 15-VM guests. If I started counting by T-Bytes backed-up, it would cost a lot more than 4-CPU's! From: David Longo To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 09/25/2009 03:22 PM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Per terabyte licensing

Re: Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-25 Thread David Longo
Haven't heard that. My first thought is that it would make licensing a LOT easier to figure out! David Longo >>> Thomas Denier 9/25/2009 3:09 PM >>> Within the last few months there was a series of messages on counting processor cores. A couple of the messages stated that TSM is moving to licens

Per terabyte licensing

2009-09-25 Thread Thomas Denier
Within the last few months there was a series of messages on counting processor cores. A couple of the messages stated that TSM is moving to licensing based on terabytes of stored data rather than processor cores. Where can I find more information on this?