Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-30 Thread Buddy Howeth
(209) 367-8800 - Main# (209) 367-6288 - Computer Room (209) 366-6240 - Alpha Pager Craig McAllister Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 09/30/2009 06:07 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up virtual machin

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-30 Thread Buddy Howeth
-6240 - Alpha Pager Craig McAllister Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 09/30/2009 06:07 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up virtual machines Hi Buddy, I'm afraid I have to disag

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-30 Thread Craig McAllister
Hi Buddy, I'm afraid I have to disagree somewhat. You've only described the "fullvm" backup option, and that's not what most people use, at least on Windows. The TSM default behaviour is actually to back up individual files from each guest (windows) to each node set up for that guest. Doing

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-28 Thread Skylar Thompson
I've used the links off IBM's TSM page: http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/storage-mgr/ You can get the retail license costs and there's a link to the PVU calculator. the PVU calculator also includes info for how virtualization is licensed. Minns, Farren - Chichester wrote: Hi all

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-28 Thread Minns, Farren - Chichester
Hi all Can someone point me to a licensing document as I'm trying to get some costings for backing up clients either individual, via VM, both etc. I seem to be finding bits and pieces of information but I need something a bit more self-contained. Regards Farren --

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Bill Boyer
Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Schaub, Steve Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:35 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Backing up virtual machines And with the Storserver Agent you can restore file-level back to the guest machine without needing the TSM client installed on the

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Francisco Molero
:45 Asunto: Re: Backing up virtual machines And with the Storserver Agent you can restore file-level back to the guest machine without needing the TSM client installed on the guest, only on the proxy. Steve Schaub Systems Engineer, Windows BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee -Original Message

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Schaub, Steve
[mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Remco Post Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:58 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up virtual machines On 25 sep 2009, at 16:15, Buddy Howeth wrote: > When you backup a VM, you are getting a snapshot of the computer you > are &g

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Remco Post
On 25 sep 2009, at 16:15, Buddy Howeth wrote: When you backup a VM, you are getting a snapshot of the computer you are saving, if you later need to restore a specific file on that VM and you didn't install the client then you only have the snapshot and you must restore the entire snapshot, conv

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Minns, Farren - Chichester
09) 367-8800 - Main# (209) 367-6288 - Computer Room (209) 366-6240 - Alpha Pager Remco Post Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 09/25/2009 07:00 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up virtual machines

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Buddy Howeth
00 - Main# (209) 367-6288 - Computer Room (209) 366-6240 - Alpha Pager Remco Post Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 09/25/2009 07:00 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] Backing up virtual machines On 25

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Ochs, Duane
9 9:00 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Backing up virtual machines On 25 sep 2009, at 15:50, Buddy Howeth wrote: > If you backup a V.M., you still need to install the windows client > on each > VM in order to get the file updates so there are no savings on > licenses. care t

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Remco Post
On 25 sep 2009, at 16:07, Wanda Prather wrote: Even if you use VCB, you'll want to have the b/a client installed on each guest for doing file-level restores. map destination as a network drive on the vcb proxy restore to alternate location using the client on the proxy unmap (ok, If you can'

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Wanda Prather
Whether you use VCB or not, does not affect your licensing. You pay licenses based on the physical processors on the machine, no matter how many guests you run. So if you have many guests, you may get a significant reduction in license costs. You can do file-level backups by installing the b/a cl

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Remco Post
On 25 sep 2009, at 15:50, Buddy Howeth wrote: If you backup a V.M., you still need to install the windows client on each VM in order to get the file updates so there are no savings on licenses. care to explain? The essence of VCB is to not have to install a client on each VM And the number

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Buddy Howeth
t;ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [ADSM-L] Backing up virtual machines Hi all I have been asked to look into the backing up of virtual machines with a view to lowering the number of TSM client licenses we require. Can someone point me in the right direct

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Skylar Thompson
IBM has a licensing guide for VMware: ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/passportadvantage/SubCapacity/Scenarios_VMware.pdf It appears that you license based on the lower of the number of virtual CPUs provided to your VMs, or the number of physical CPUs in the server. Depending on how you have

Re: Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Wanda Prather
Download the 5.4-5.5 Technical Guide redbook SG24-7447 from www.redbooks.ibm.com. Read Chap. 24, which covers the features up through the 5.5 client. The 6.1 client adds direct support for fullvm backups. W On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Minns, Farren - Chichester < fmi...@wiley.com> wrote:

Backing up virtual machines

2009-09-25 Thread Minns, Farren - Chichester
Hi all I have been asked to look into the backing up of virtual machines with a view to lowering the number of TSM client licenses we require. Can someone point me in the right direction of documentation regarding working with TSM and virtual machines as I'm not even sure what's possible. >Fro