Re: Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool

2011-09-29 Thread Colwell, William F.
Hi Daniel, My main point was to say that your previous posts seemed to be saying that dedup storagepools were recommended to be 6 TB in size at most. It is my understanding the 6TB recommendation was a daily server thruput maximum design target when dedup is in use. I agree, a processor at 10

Re: Backing up EMC SourceOne

2011-09-29 Thread Schneider, Jim
Bill, We have one SourceOne server using a database on a separate server. We run the job sequence using BMC's Control-M scheduler. SourceOne server1) Activity Suspend vbs 2) Native Archive Suspend vbs Database server 3) Database export 4) A

Backing up EMC SourceOne

2011-09-29 Thread Bill Boyer
Anyone out there backing up a multiple server SourceOne configuration? This is the replacement product for MailXtender. There is a script to run preschedule to set SourceOne up for backup. And then you also have to backup the other servers in the SourceOne configuration while this is 'Paused'. A

Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool

2011-09-29 Thread Daniel Sparrman
The elephant has left the building. Do you get the same advanced features by just dumping data onto a DD as you do with the TSM TDP clients? Exmerge anyone? Or perhaps an SQL dump? Still have todo filebackups, or wait, why not just use robocopy and copy it onto the DD? Or what the heck, just pl

Re :vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool

2011-09-29 Thread James Choate
Good questions: We are currently working on a project that is using ProtectTIER. The ProtectTIER 7650G is does dedup. It looks like a TS3500 w LTO drive. We will be getting another 7650G at a second data center. The idea is to to cross-replicate between data centers. -Original Message

Re: Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool

2011-09-29 Thread robert_clark
The elephants in the room: It is tempting, once DD gets in the door, to move all database backups (the typical TDP/RMAN and SQLLiteSpeed stuff) to go directly to DD. (No TSM involved, so save money on licenses?) Combinations that have more advanced communications with the back end storage (O

Re: Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool

2011-09-29 Thread Rick Adamson
Richard, excellent comments! I will add that to TSM is just storage and has no idea about the deduplication, compression, etc. that DD performs, thus making it challenging to determine the actual storage utilization from an individual client and/or file space perspective. Secondly, aside from

Re: Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool

2011-09-29 Thread Richard Rhodes
> So the data is both deduplicated and compressed before you > send it offsite? Yes, that is how the DD handles replication. DD is a inline dedup system. When data come into the DD it is deduped, what is left is compressed, then it is written to disk. Only the new unique data is replicated. (y

Ang: Re: [ADSM-L] vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool

2011-09-29 Thread Daniel Sparrman
Yepp, we have the same thing with our Sepaton, all deduplication is done inline. Reason I asked is because there seems to be other manufacturers who needs a 2nd box todo deduplication. Regards Daniel Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Växel: 08-754 98 00 Fax: 08-754 97 30 daniel.sparr...@ex

Preschedule problem with ESSbase backup.

2011-09-29 Thread Bo Krogholm Nielsen
Hi TSM's I have a preschedule command to be run two cmd files to put an Essbase in read / only mode and then dump the database into a flat file. When the first COMAND is finished it must start another command file to do the same, just on a different base. But when the first command is finished

Re: vtl versus file systems for pirmary pool

2011-09-29 Thread Nick Laflamme
On Sep 29, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Daniel Sparrman wrote: > I'm not fully aware of how the DD replicates data, but if you have > 15-20TB/day being written to your main DD, and that data is then replicated > to the off-site DD, how much data is actually replicated? > > With a 1Gbs connection, you cou