> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Shaowei Wang (wsw)
> wrote:
>> Is this news mean we can hotplug the usb mouse and keyboard?
>>
>
> yes.
Theoretically, you are right.
However, what does it mean for Plan 9?
hotplug keyboard? for what?
hotplug mouse? hmmm
Thank you very muc nemo.
Now I can
> distant ancestor of alef?
and alef's descent may be Go.☺
Kenji
> If you're using CVS to get plan9port or drawterm,
> it's time to switch to Mercurial.
> http://swtch.com/plan9port/man/man1/hg.html
I happen to have a japanese version of macbook with snow leopard recently.
I use this machine for my lecture in our Univ. an then, I needed to have
drawterm on it.
> I'm interested in the changes, although I'm mostly using 9vx rather
> than drawterm. I tried to get ktrans running again a few months ago
> and couldn't make it work, regardless of trigger. Is there an updated
> version of that available somewhere, as well?
Changes are very small, just gui-osx/k
> http://basalt.las.osakafu-u.ac.jp/plan9 tommorrow.
Ok, I put it as http://basalt.las.osakafu-u.ac.jp/plan9/s56.html
Kenji
> I'm interested, just busy.
> If you have plan9port installed and drawterm
> checked out from Mercurial, please run
>
> codereview gui-osx/keycodes.h gui-osx/screen.c
Oops, I'll do it later.
I'm now and till the next monday apart from our Univ, so,
It'll take a few days. (I'm going to play with
> http://basalt.las.osakafu-u.ac.jp/plan9/s56.html
also has updated ktrans and howto setup ktrans for
drawterm, which is same for 9vx, too.
Key point is to send '0x1c' character to console when to make trigger
the かな to 漢字 Japanese translation.
Kenji
> gcc -o drawterm main.o cpu.o readcons.o secstore.o latin1.o
>
> That fails on OS X 10.6,
You need to add -m32 option to gcc for OXS 10.6.
Oh, boy, I'm just a newbie to OSX world.☺
Kenji
I'm making a fossil+venti file server using two 500GB SATA drives and
a SATA DVD, and have trouble to use the DVD drive.
Using a iso image of a couple of days ago, it does not come up, but only
9load from CD can run.
So, I connected the SATA HDD drive to another machine and installed the
system.
> On Tue Mar 2 06:11:54 EST 2010, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
>> I'm making a fossil+venti file server using two 500GB SATA drives and
>> a SATA DVD, and have trouble to use the DVD drive.
> without knowing more about your symptoms, it's hard to say.
One 500GB is connected to SATA1, and anot
Thanks eric.
Tommorow I'll check sources of your change.
Another problem here.
I said I'm running fossil here with SATA mode on P5Q Pro.
Fossil runs very fast and charm, however, venti has problem.
When I run venti, I get huge size of venti process and got suicide.
ps says venti process' s size
> should be harmless. are you running maybe
> an old kernel?
No, I downloaded the live-cd image about a few days ago.
I also see the messages while running fossil only like:
sdiahci: drive 1 in state ready
sdiahci: drive 2 won't come up; in state new after 10 resets
sdE2: wait ready: [new] task=
> the second error could be either
> (a) a driver bug. the sources driver may have trouble
> with some bugs in the sb600 that you've got.
> (b) a misbehaving drive. if this is the case, the drive
> could be unhealthy.
Of course, I suppose so.
The bios can load 9load, I suppose it's driver bug.
> Any attempt to use venti too resulted in a failure sooner or later, as
> was depicted in my posts. No hint why...
Is your error messages indicate (1)cannot connected to venti server
or (2)write error to some area in arenas?
Kenji
> it was a write error. it's likely that there just wasn't
> enough memory on a 128mb machine for venti.
I see.
Another point I'd like to say is that the installer doesn't set
memory parameters for venti, such as mem, bcmem...etc,
which caused very huge use of memory in my case.
Kenji
It`s possible to install the Plan 9 distribution onto Asus P5Q-Pro
motherboard with two SATA HDD drive and a SATA DVD-RAM/±R/±RWdrive with
4 GB memory.
The Plan 9 distribution CDROM assumes the CDROM is connected to D:
drive, which is the problem here. Then, connect the drives as
SATA1=SATA HDD i
There are two drivers for 9load anfd kernel.
In /sys/src/9/pc/sdiahci.c file, there is a
wakeup(&d->portm);
call just after
clearci(d->port);
line in checkdrive() function.
However, there is no that call in /sys/src/boot/pc/sdiahci.c file.
Is this intended ?
If so, what it does mean?
Kenji
Hi eric
> i'm frustrated with ahci problems. i think
> many of them have been fixed, but there
> are good reasons for the lag. and many
> are my fault.
Don't be so frastrated.
If you didn't work on ahci driver, we cannot use SATA drive as fast one.
I'm very thank you.
I didn't use your new dri
> It`s possible to install the Plan 9 distribution onto Asus P5Q-Pro
> motherboard with two SATA HDD drive and a SATA DVD-RAM/±R/±RWdrive with
> 4 GB memory.
reports of Asus P5Q-Pro + ahci (fossil+venti+auth+cpu server) after above time
(1) It looks like to be able to read SATA CDROM, such that w
> if you want to try the new sata stuff, there's prebuilt kernels and
> source at ftp://ftp.quanstro.net/other.
I'd like to have it in sources, because every new commer can try it first.
I looked your new sources like a name of new-E820Atom Unfortunately
it requires lots of changes to the st
> (1) It looks like to be able to read SATA CDROM, such that we can see
> directories, files at
> the top level of /n/cdrom. However, it fails to read the files under deeper
> levels,
> say such as /n/cdrom/sys/src/9/pc/pc. In short we cannot read cdrom
> correctly.
This was my fault to comp
> usbfat: does not work consistently on my machines,
because you are using Erik's plan9.iso.
The usb driver in that kernel and /sys/src/cmd/usb files are older than the
formal
distribution of plan9.iso.
Kenji
> usbfat: does not work consistently on my machines,
because you are using Erik's plan9.iso.
The usb driver in that kernel and /sys/src/cmd/usb files are older than the
formal
distribution of plan9.iso.
Kenji
>> because you are using Erik's plan9.iso.
>> The usb driver in that kernel and /sys/src/cmd/usb files are older than the
>> formal
>> distribution of plan9.iso.
>
> that's not true.
I really experienced this, too, when I tested your March 24, 2010 9atom.iso.
I replaced the devusb.c etc under /s
Erik thank you for your calm-dowmed reply.☺
I know you are doing good job for ahci mode SATA driver for Plan 9.
I still have problem with detecting CDROM by the formal distribution
driver.(Asus P5K-VM)
So, I tried your 9atom.iso, and got good feeling with this.
Yes, the CDROM was detected succes
This machine is in my business room, and I cannot touch it until next monday.
So I cannot report the info of seE0part of this machine now.
However, I'll retry what happened here.
1) replaced only /sys/src/boot/pc/sdiahci.c from the format CDROM
to your 9atom CDROM.
2) It booted nicely, meaning n
> ; g sanembmsg|grep pop
> mbox.c:490: sanembmsg(mb, m); /* fails with pop but i want this debugging for
> now */
> mbox.c:521: sanembmsg(mb, m); /* fails with pop but i want this debugging for
> now */
> mbox.c:548: sanembmsg(mb, m); /* fails with pop but i want this debugging for
> now */
Wow
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:08 PM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can easily fix the generated include/plan9/plan9_libc.h file by
>> hand for now. It seems /sys/include/libc.h is slightly different on
>> 9atom, so the include/plan9/mklibc.rc script have to be adapted. Don't
>>
> Are you running 9atom? Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan is also
> running 9atom. I suspect this problem is specific to 9atom,
> since I never encountered it on Plan 9.
Yes, I'm running 9atom.
> Could you run acid on the process and provide us the
> output of asm(*PC) and regs()? Thanks.
Included is
I've been apart from Plan9 for days, then, please
forgive my silly question.
What is 386pae kernel, and how I can find
which kernel I'm running.
Kenji
--- Begin Message ---
which kernel are you running? the 386 kernel or the 386pae kernel?
- erik
--- End Message ---
> the 386pae kernel is in /sys/src/9/pcpae. it is the same as the pc kernel,
> except is uses physical address extension to address more than 4GB
> of memory. (but not too much more. :-))
Thanks, eric.
I found '9fs atom' just now.☺
Yes, I found /sys/src/9/pcpae and teg2 directory.
Much proceedi
> you'll need to run the pae kernel. it has support for
> sse, which you will need for go.
Ok, I'll try it.
I have somewhat complicated feeling on linux's PAE kernal.
Isn't ther anything wrong to run pae kernel, somthing
like some application don't run on it etc.
Kenji
I built pcpae kernel and recompiled go distribution,
and probably success.
Attached is the go compilation result, and the last line
shows the used go version.
Someone can explain the meaning of the last error?
Kenji
# Building C bootstrap tool.
cmd/dist
# Building compilers and Go bootstrap tool
Thanks David.
> How did you succeed to run go_bootstrap? Have you
> just switched from the 9atom pc kernel to the pcpae
> kernel?
I just switched from 9atom pc to pcpae kernel.
When I run /usr/sys/src/go/src/all.rc, it fails
to make $GOROOT/include/plan9/libc_plan9.h.
Then, I removed the lines o
> https://codereview.appspot.com/82660044/
>
> Please give a try and review this change to
> get it submitted before the Go 1.4 release.
I tried this, and compilation becomes seamless.
However, a new test error occured as:
=
? cmd/nm [no test files]
pack.test 1119: suicide: sys: tr
>> https://codereview.appspot.com/82660044/
>>
>> Please give a try and review this change to
>> get it submitted before the Go 1.4 release.
Sorry, David.
I made mistake to copy your patch file to Plan9
system (I've not set abaco yet).
I retried your above patch, and perfectly seamless results
w
Isn't it corrupted?
I had to cpoy the aboco sources from sources site to
run abaco on my pcpae machine.
Kenji
font problems.
htmlfont? etc.
The abaco codes on sources site deals it in the codes.
I feel it's better to setup abaco initially.
Don't mind I'm now using 'sources' site's abaco.
Kenji
I've been considered why pc kernel dosen't work for go compiling,
however pcpae kernel does. The 'sources' pc kernel works fine
(from David's talk here).
In the 'sources' pc kernel, there is a definition of fpssesave etc
in its l.s.
On the other hand, no definition in atom's pc kernel.
However,
> perhaps you are mixing sources, or haven't downloaded all the
> fonts. atom uses /lib/font/bit/htmlfont which maps size*face
You are right.
I have no /lib/font/bit/htmlfont directory, sorry.
Kenji
Thanks eric.
I cannot judge which is better, though.
Are there any problems using 'sources' pc kernel, anyone?
Please put those notes on the top page of your atom site.
Your pcpae kernel has never problems here so far.
However, I wonder whether I need so much memory
in my Plan9.☺ My machine has
> but there has to be a way to clean out the closets. :-)
I completely agree with it!
This may not be serious to someone, however:
In Plan 9, there is no author's signature in the sources.
This may because Plan9 was a product of Bell Lab once.
So the programmers were the employees of the compan
>> My machine has only 4GB memory though.
>
> Can somebody please include this in the fortunes database?
そんなアホな!
止めてお願い
Kenji
>> Can somebody please include this in the fortunes database?
>
> そんなアホな!
> 止めてお願い
Hmm, nupas passed UTF8 encoded Japanese mail.
Sorry all of others.
It means, dont't do it, please!
Kenji
Eric,
I reported I had no problem to use pcpae kernel so far.
This time, I must report a problem.
I switched from 1CPU mode to 2CPU mode, and have
problem of too much high speed of keyboard input,
like aaa when I typed only one 'a'.
Please check this, I want to use pcpae kernel for
CPU s
> can you run sos/sos and copy or email the output?
> sos itself gives instructions.
I'll email you soon.
However, one point I should report here is that it may not be
concerned only keyboard. I experienced the one window
for fscons did not open, and some error messages ( I forgot)
were there.
> if you tried all the other debugging suggestions, you could also type
> f7, which will print all the usb kbd input on the console.
>
> i don't see any issues in the sos output.
My 2cpu machine goes 10 times faster than 1cpu.
This happens on also the pc kernel (not pcpae).
Kenji
> so basically the timing loop is messed up. if you could run the amd64
> kernel on this machine, this will not happen.
Before I do this, I tried the 'sources' pc kernel for 2 cpu.
It recognizes 2 cpus and has no problem.
Kenji
I forgot.
This mail is using 'sources' pc kernel for 2 cpu, and
nupas mail system.
Kenji
> you can try using the pc i8253.c for pcpae, and see if that solves
> the issue.
As you know, it's not so easy.
For example, pc i8253.c kernel wants watchdog(), and
different Mach structure which you changed, etc.
I know I lost about 800MB of my memory.☺
However, stability is the most important
>> > you can try using the pc i8253.c for pcpae, and see if that solves
>> > the issue.
>>
>> As you know, it's not so easy.
>> For example, pc i8253.c kernel wants watchdog(), and
>> different Mach structure which you changed, etc.
>
> i ment the i8253.c from the atom pc kernel. i thought
> tha
I managed to work nVidia 7600GS (10de/0392) card for Plan 9.
As I don't know to whom I send this patch, and it's very small,
I decided to post it here.
/sys/src/cmd/aux/vga/nvidia.c should be changed as follows:
===from here===
208c208
< case 0x0390:
---
>
I'm using this for 1680x1050x32 Nanao S2231W
LCD deisplay.
The entry for this display in /lib/vgadb is as follows:
==from here
#
# EIZO Flexscan s2231W (LCD) Analog
#
s2231wA=1680x1050
defaultclock=146.25
shb=1784 ehb=1960 ht=2240
vrs=1053 vre=1059 vt=1089
> applied, thanks.
You are well come!
Kenji
I'm now seeing two types of usb/disk implementation
as in the title.
The 9front's one can recognize partions in the usb disk,
however, the other cannot. I feel the 9front's usb/disk
is much better than the other.
On the other hand, the former doesn't use threadmain().
Why?
Is it be safe to mix
I'm still seeing 'sources' and 9front sources.
In 9fron sources there are significant changes on lib9p
and those time stamp is younger than 2011.
Something important happened on 9P protocol
while I was peacefully sleeping?
Kenji
Thanks cinap
> i used this to make usb drivers multithreaded.
Wow!
I found also many eqlock() call instead of qlock().
Is this also related to usb slowness?
Kenji
> the eqlock() is a interruptable version of
> the qlock() call. that is, it can error out
> when the process receives a note.
Thans cinap!
I'm checking how I can incorporate your nusb codes
into my 'sources' conservative version usb codes.
Of course, it's should be my personal hiden version.☺
B
> I'm not sure what you mean. I have only one 9front machine with a
> disk, all other are diskless and work fine.
Do you network boot those diskless machine?
When I tried I could use drawterm, but network boot didn't.
Kenji
> I'm checking how I can incorporate your nusb codes
> into my 'sources' conservative version usb codes.
> Of course, it's should be my personal hiden version.☺
I found it unneccessary.
The 'sources' usb/disk recognizes partitions already.
However, after I applied 9front's kernel codes (not inclu
> Ok, I stand corrected.
Off topic, sorry.
I saw this phrase some times here.
What it does mean?
I know it's meaning I think.
What I want to know is why they say just 'thanks'.
Is this something some culture related?
Kenji
After I retired job (strictory semi-retired) I'm now running Plan9
only in my house. Now, I'm hesitating to setup a C2D machine
as CPU/Auth/File server machine.It eats high level of power.
Here in Japan, all the atomic power facilities is stopping.
In personal house, high performance is not s
Thanks all.
I made order the A68N-5000 board yesterday.
I may have many difficulties to run Plan 9, (UEFI etc),
in such case I'll run windows on it.☺
By the way, I got attention to arm architecture now.
I tried to compile raspberry pi on my plan9 machine, and
got problem.
When to compile runebase
> have you recompiled the arm libraries and compiler/linker?
> there can be some chicken-and-egg problems with this but they
> are largely mitigated by the c compiler's do-it-yourself attitude.
I recompiled 5c, which purged the problem, thanks.
One thing, recent pc/trap.c has validalign() function
>> What did work was using 5c from /n/9atom (
>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/68992)!
>
> hey, i like that solution.
I suppose you are kidding.
It's really dangerous to mix both distributions,
if you don't know what you are doing.☺
Kenji
> I have no pi hardware now,
I found the pi hardware is very cheap, 4500円 in Japan.
I also found 4 kinds of arm based hardware in the sources.
Which is the hardware we can buy now?
Kenji
> That worked great, thank you!
I'm also considering to buy pi for one of my Plan9 terminal.
In that case I may also have Japanese USB keyboard problem...
What is your feeling of pi as a Plan9 terminal?
such as display size, speed etc.
Kenji
> I use a standard dell keyboard and LCD display at 1920x1600.
Wow, you have big screen!
I only have a 20" small LCD TV, I don't watch TV much.
> its the perfect plan9 terminal IMHO.
Indeed!
pi can deal with wireless network?
Kenji
PS: I decided to perchase it.
> PS: I decided to perchase it.
Igot pi board from amazon.jp, and yes it's nice for Plan9 terminal.
I'm using max 1.8A power supply, and usb mose and keyboard.
No problem so far.
I can use Japanese keyboard here.
I'm using 20" Sharp LC-20E90 with HDMI cable, then
I got 1184x624 display size (sigh)
> I'm using 20" Sharp LC-20E90 with HDMI cable, then
> I got 1184x624 display size (sigh).
> Any idea to exand this?
I got it.
I changes the line of
disable_overscan=1 to uncommented of
the file CONFIG.TXT in /n/9fat directory, and rebooted.
Then, now I have 1280x720 display.
Why you named /dev/
Thanks Richard.
> The convention is that dos is the name for a primary dos partition,
> and 9fat is the name for a dos subpartition at the start of a
> plan9 partition.
Then, I'll follow your decision.
By the way, how I can arrage the correct time in this system?
I don't mean the /adm/timezone/l
> i think i added this to usb/kb in 9atom. see the -j option.
I expected to manage it to use without recompilation for Japanese
user. Your change still need to recompile the kernel, because
usbd is included in the boot components.
If so, my original version is simpler, I think.
sorry...
Kenji
Would you please to explain more about the meaning of:
> hdmi_group=2
> hdmi_mode=87
> config_hdmi_boot=4
Kenji
> real time clock. If you configure a kernel without the 'fakertc'
Thanks Richard.
Yes, I wondered what is this when compiling 9pi.☺
> fakertc device. With a network connection, the time should be
> corrected by aux/timesync soon after booting.
I made over a LAN to wireless bridge yesterday.
W
Thanks.
Now I got 1376x768 on my screen.
Sharp's manual says it can also use 1920x1080, which
may be too small character to my old eyes.☺
I edited /n/9fat/CONFIG.TXT as
framebuffer_width=1376 etc.
Kenji
> pi can deal with wireless network?
As I have no network connection now.
I applied a USB hub (2.0 3 ports) for use of USB stick.
Yes, it works no problem with usb devices of keyboard+mouse+usb stick.
Please remember I'm using MAX 1.8A power supply.
Kenji
I got a little bit big size of it by compiling it on my 386
Plan9 machine than doing on pi itself.
Is this natural?
Kenji
> do you mean size using the size command or size using ls -l?
Yes, however I know now two edittion of the 9pi sources,
one on my 386 mashin, and the other on my pi machine
are slightly different each other. Sorry my noise.
Kenji
Subjecxt: how to change login user on 9pi?
I tried to change the /n/9fat/cmdline.txt file to
readparts=1 nobootprompt=local user=kokamoto.
Now I can login as kokamoto. Then I'd like to make ask the
login name at boottime. How I can change it?
Year! Now I'm a network user of
> Subjecxt: how to change login user on 9pi?
>
> I tried to change the /n/9fat/cmdline.txt file to
>
> readparts=1 nobootprompt=local user=kokamoto.
>
> Now I can login as kokamoto. Then I'd like to make ask the
> login name at boottime. How I can change it?
>
Wrong sent time.
This time may be ok.
double noise, sorry again.
Kenji
For someone may have problems to setup 9pi,
my content of /n/9fat/cmdline.txt is:
readparts=1 nobootprompt=local user=kokamoto ipconfig='-g 192.168.11.1 ether
/net/ether0 192.168.11.17 255.255.255.0' kbmap=/boot/jp
So, how I can change the login user?
Kenji
Thanks Richard.
> Just delete 'user=kokamoto'.
Wow, that's easy enough.
I tried user='', and got confused.
Kenji
> On 6/27/2014 4:38 PM, Russ Cox rsc-at-swtch.com |9fans| wrote:
>
>> However, Steve Simon buried the lede in his reply: https://bitbucket.org/
>> knieriem/pf9/downloads has a working sam, acme, plumber, etc in binary
>> form. I just tested that sam and acme from there both work on my fussy
>> 64-b
I've experienced three kinds of Plan9 file servers,
Lab's one, 9atom and plan9front.
I felt that the file server speed is 9front > 9atom >> lab's.
This is based on verious different machines for each.
Is my feeling wrong, or hasve some base facts?
This is to prepare the fastest file server on
a
> not a fair comparsion.
Yes, I'd have been more specific.
my intension was cwfs > fossil+venti of 9atom >> fossil+venti labs.
I did not consider kenfs itself, because I consider it should be
file+auth+cpu server. The last is not important, but for drawterm
from others.
Recent kenfs can be such
kenfs(of course 64 bit)+auth server +++9pi terminal/cpu server
may be best for home use...
Kenji
> i use ken's file server for personal use. i enjoy the
> fact that a cpu kernel panic does not impact the file server.
My desire is to have one file server with auth server and any
numbers of terminals which can also be used as cpu server
(for drawterm).
In this case the smallest config is a fi
> That was in an office environment. At home I use
> fossil+(plan9port)venti running on linux-based NAS.
Do you use wireless LAN?
If so you also need wireless bridge?
The combination of NAS and venti sounds like charm,
because the snmallest config is two machines.
How about the power-eating of t
I'm checking how I should build my Plan9 system
in my home environment. As I said before, we
have to save power as possible as we can (no
nuclear power energy here). If I choose one
file/auth/cpu server machine, Plan9front may be
fastest. However, I have here one serious problem.
Ktrans does
> wheres the source code of the ktrans that you are
> using?
It's not the one you checked.
I'll send it to you by private mail. If I could have a
time I'll change it to be able to open everyone.
It was worked using my business time at office.
I'm now not a enpryee of that organization.
Kenji
> You, 9front developpers, created kbdfs, and
> lost kbdputc() in port/devcdons.c. Most of
> pc/kbd.c stuffs are driven out to user space, kbdfs.
>
> In lab's or 9atom's distribution, I can have
> /rc/bin/Kanji, like:
> #!/bin/rc
>
> pipefile -r ktrans /dev/cons
> rio -i
> the B+ has some power supply improvements and two more USB
> ports, which are said to make it work better with usb hard drives.
You mean B+ may be able to use as a Plan9 file server?
Kenji
If I choose 9front machine as for network file/auth/cpu server (cwfs),
and try to boot Richard's 9pi terminal (fossil) but root from the server,
can I do it?
Kenji
Subkject: A68-N5000 cabini motherboard
I got it functional partially.
This is for energy-saving motherboard with APU (15W TDP)
on it without coolong fan.
I just moved the HDD used on a C2D machine
to this box, where it booted successfully with only
one problem, ether chip.
The ether chip on thi
I forgot most important line.
This is 9front disk which moved from old machine.
> Subkject: A68-N5000 cabini motherboard
>
> I got it functional partially.
>
> This is for energy-saving motherboard with APU (15W TDP)
> on it without coolong fan.
>
> I just moved the HDD used on a C2D machine
>
> but also,
>
> Macv40 = 0x4c00, /* RTL8168G */
>
> so it should recognize the mac. you might be using an
> older version?
Ok, I'll back the HDD drive to the C2D machine, and
make it newest, then, recompile the kernel on that
older machione. Then, return back the HDD drive
> more stuff in the #/ or bootfs.paq. candidates could be
> /lib/firmware, but even with the iwl firmware blobs the
> kernel gets just arround 6MB, not 8MB.
>
> the question is, what did you add?
I did not add anything.
The size of bootfs.paq is very big about 5.7MB (57949162 bytes).
I downloaded
Hi, cinap.
It was solved(?).
I removed all the /lib/firmware stuff, and recompiled
then the result is as usual!
size:
1319729t + 2282308d + 377258d = 3979325
My /lib/firmware directory had many iwn- files.
All those files are neccessary?
Anyway, now I can use this AMD machine, and now I'm
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Addition:
My small case can have only one 3.5" HDD.
This case allows us to use two 2.5" HDD, however,
I don't like. The motherboard itself has two SATA
drive connectors. You can choose another mini-IPX case.
This motherboard has two USB 3.0 and two 2.0.
I have one more USB 2.0 socket on the fron
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