> pcc does not allow this since zero lenth array is another gcc
> extension. I tried declaring it as
>
> static unsigned startLabel[];
>
> The resulting bytecode can then be compiled however it will only
> crash. I traced it a pointer that tries to read an unallocated section
> in memory.
the on
> if it's ambiguous, then the tag should indeed be put on hold,
> because there's no way to get it right.
how do we prevent all tags from being on hold?
there's no way to get that right, either.
- erik
On Tue Sep 22 17:22:08 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
> here's one last "caught in the act" scenario. I have a print in
> mntralloc when I reuse something.
>
> The fid is being read and clunked. But the Tclunk goes out before the
> Rread comes in. Oops.
>
>
> Reuse 1
> Tread tag 1 fid 454 o
ron,
this works for me but my symptoms were a little different than yours.
before:
mnt: proc cat 290: mismatch from #D/ssl/1/data /n/coraid/lib/unicode
rep 0x7fcd8c04e190 tag 4 fid 1603 T120 R117 rp 4
after:
WOOT! caught stale reply 6; type 117
note: the poor organization of this
full versions in
/n/sources/contrib/quanstro/devmnt.c
/n/sources/contrib/quanstro/vx32devmnt.c
- erik
On Tue Sep 22 23:12:27 EDT 2009, r...@swtch.com wrote:
> The extra tracking that has been proposed is unnecessary,
> and waiting for the Rflush doesn't make sense. The assumption
> is that the Rflush isn't ever going to arrive, because the connection
> is dead.
what do you mean by "dead"? i/o to
> I mean that the code as written is assuming that if a read or write
> errors out, it can only happen for one of two reasons:
> 1) there was an interrupt note, in which case strcmp(error, Eintr) == 0
> 2) there has been an error on the 9P connection, in which case
>strcmp(error, Eintr) != 0 an
> So just need to fix oserrstr() or fix this in devip itself? I vote
> oserrstr, lucho votes fix this little bit of
> code.
how many other errors are lurking in osstrerror()?
there are lots of assumptions about the exact
errstrs.
- erik
On Wed Sep 23 14:54:47 EDT 2009, r...@swtch.com wrote:
> > how sure are we that 1 holds? couldn't there be other,
> > legitimate and transient errors? could a user-delivered
> > note sneak in and confuse the issue?
>
> no. at least not if the kernel is working properly.
> that's why i said devm
with the help of the great folks at myricom, we've
been able to find a couple of performance limitations
and fix a few bugs. we were able to transfer aoe at >1GB/s
between two modest (3 year old) 1.86ghz intel 5000 xeons.
contrib quanstro/etherm10g
this patch uses the vmappat patch which is now o
(aside: "sig segattach" fails because nroff can elide
all leading space. /n/sources/patch/signit
one could argue for replacing the \*? in
selecting files with \** but no functions
return a **.)
i think segattach is already correct. consider this
#include
#include
enum {
Sz = 0x
On Fri Sep 25 14:11:03 EDT 2009, m...@acm.jhu.edu wrote:
> So in my example, va = 0x10001001, len = 0x1000. I understood that to
> mean [0x10001001, 0x10002001) was the newly-valid interval, which
> would mean 0x10002000 was a valid address...
i think you're misreading the man page. from the man
the patch i posted yesterday was wrong. i forgot about
automatic address assigment with segattach. this works,
but perhaps it would be better to round va before checking
if va == 0?
/n/quanstro//sys/src/9/port/segment.c:642,648 - segment.c:642,648
Segment *s, *os;
Physseg *ps;
reminder: the deadline is october 5.
this can't be extended.
- erik
On Sat Sep 26 14:14:16 EDT 2009, aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net wrote:
> 'httpserver' is a server on a remote connection from
> where the following is run:
>
> aux/listen1 tcp!*!80 aux/trampoline tcp!httpserver!442
>
> where httpserver is running httpd that listens on port 442.
> All is well, until
> aux/listen1 tcp!*!80 rc -c 'sleep 1; cat /lib/words'
what's the sleep for?
> (that is, the con(1) connection just waits and waits). With that
> threshold, I found:
>
> --rw-rw-r-- M 9714 akumar akumar 1447 Sep 27 12:52 tmp/170words
> --rw-rw-r-- M 9714 akumar akumar 1454 Sep 27 12:53 tmp/171wor
> wrong door, sir.
> search for linux in the door with the penguin.
> Thanks
they no longer have a door. they have a two-door interlock
system. you can enter the space any time you'd like, but you
may never leave. that's the hotel linux for ya.
- erik
i don't know if anyone else has fallen into this
trap, but i don't see it on the archives. i had
been following along and mindlessly using aliases
like
red.forman: local!red
this is fine until you slip up and have
oldguy: local!red.forman
which doesn't work if you're using a somewh
> a1: local!a2
> a3: local!a1
the alias were in this form
a1: local!a2
a2: local!a3
where a3 was a "real user." the rewrite rules were standard,
except that the appropriate domain name was subsituted in.
someone had created /mail/box/a2. this was the confusing bit.
> Local is *not* ana
; g local! *
alias/aliasmail.c:78: print("local!%s\n", s_to_c(s));
send/dest.c:157: * The local! and !local! checks are artificial intelligence,
send/dest.c:179:/* hack to get local! out of the names
*/
send/dest.c:180:if(
> I don't think there's a software bug here.
> The system is behaving exactly as you configured it to:
> it can expand the alias but not deliver the mail.
i don't think there's a bug either. i had intended the original
email to be an illustration of what not to do and why.
it is a little bit pro
On Mon Sep 28 09:34:51 EDT 2009, yari...@gmail.com wrote:
> Today I noticed my Plan 9 machine displayed time which is 1 hr past
> surrounding world. Digging around, I found that DST start/end dates
> for Eastern-European Time (/adm/timezone/EET) for current year are
> bad. Those follow pre-1996 c
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev
04)
05:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit
Ethernet (rev 03)
05:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network
Connection (rev 05)
05:04.0 CardBus bridge: E
> try this but nothing happens. Always 'boot from:' prompt reply.
>
> This is what I see at boot time (using 9atom.iso in my travelmate 4650)
>
> PBS1...Plan9 from Bell Labs
> ELCR: 0C20
> pcirouting: South Bridge 8086, 2641 not found
> dev A0 port 170 config 045A capabilities 2B00 mwdma 0007 udm
there's a new one at ftp://ftp.quanstro.net/other/9atom.iso.gz
unfortunately it won't solve baux80's problem, i don't think.
i haven't gotten together a reasonable debugging version of
9load yet. i'm still working on that.
the new iso mostly contains new device ids but it also has a a
few things
On Wed Sep 30 00:30:19 EDT 2009, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> At the tail end of the module there is a shorter set of "#pragma
> varargck"s that repeats the entries earlier in the file, disagreeing
> with one of them. The disagreeing entry matches the #pragma in
> /sys/src/cmd/vl/l.h so I'm not s
> I have a couple of processes working together sharing memory and using locks,
> and when the program finish the job and exits, the proceses in Rendez state
> does not exit, and i need to slay them.
>
> I'm using postnote(PNGROUP,...) call, should i write a postctl to slay the
> waiting proce
> USB eth works well for me. I use it between my desktop & PDA, both
> Linux machines, and have successfully (if a little slowly) dumped the
> PDA's 6GB micro-hard-drive over the connection. I think I measured
> the speed at 4Gb/s once, but that could have been limited by the PDA's
> drive.
over
i lost track of the registration deadline. it was too early.
we will not turn anyone away at the conference if you
do not register, but a printed proceeding may not be
available. we do still need our numbers to be close so
we can plan properly.
thanks!
- erik
On Thu Oct 1 03:58:36 EDT 2009, bau...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 29 September 2009 at 14:21, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > there's a new one at ftp://ftp.quanstro.net/other/9atom.iso.gz
> > unfortunately it won't solve baux80's problem, i don't think.
>
> exa
> Every time I do so, either with touch or chmod for example, I get
> errors like this:
>
> Oct 1 08:52:39.288 read bad packet from 5
add some debugging to 9pserve.c around 'read bad packet'.
i'm gonna guess (since i don't have time to get p9p auth
working) that this test has failed src/lib9/co
> I saw an article a while back about how to use dd to hide files
> outside the realm of where the fs (I think ext3 was the subject) could
> see them, and making sure to protect them from being reaped by an
> fsck. Probably not enough to discourage the FBI, but more than enough
> to deter the aver
> My test case tries to copy a file over top of one that already exists.
> In this case, the bug decided to flit right by the check at
> convM2S.c:216,217.
i thought the original problem was trying to change
modes or permissions on a file. that's why i guessed
the problem message would be a Rwst
> Run in fear.
>
> Despite having a number which is just a wee bit higher than the
> things supported by the existing Plan 9 NCR/LSI SCSI driver,
> this is an utterly different beast, based on LSI's "Fusion"
> architecture, which in theory simplifies things vastly for the
> host over the old seque
> sdc0 is reported as a Toshiba MK4026GAX, its a 40gb harddrive. I have
> tried it with out dma and with, no difference. I have tried manually
> running it
> and have had the same result. The number (1040) after fdisk changes,
> is that
> number of the command in rc? i.e. the 1040th command run, bu
> Somehow my laptop gets by using 32-bit IP addresses regardless of
> whether it's on my home Ethernet, a dialup connection (rare these
> days in the U.S., still sometimes useful overseas), or on a
> wireless LAN.
>
> My landline phone and my cellular phone both use base-10 digits,
> and even the
> Is there any way to force this card to use the VESA driver? Please note
> that I'm booting using "*norealmode=" in my plan9.ini.
>
VESA requires realmode.
- erik
> 13293 mkdir("/mnt/sdb1/tc/plan9/9vx-0.12/sys/lib/texmf/bibtex/bst", 0)
> = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
>
perhaps replica is expecting specific error messages
and they're not getting translated
; cd /n/sources/plan9/`{pwd}
; g strstr
applylog.c:161: if(strstr(buf, "entry not found") |
> Plan9 can happily create an object with mode zero but a posix
> emulation of wstat() must do the rename()/chmod()/chown()/chgrp()
> etc in a fixed order which is bound to make some combinations
> mutually exclusive.
i'd be willing to bet that posix doesn't guarentee anything
even with the conto
On Sun Oct 4 12:47:55 EDT 2009, 9...@9netics.com wrote:
> perhaps the elimination of all traces of IL is a little too thorough?
> it seems easier to leave Logil, Logilmsg in place rather than require
> an extra (periodic) merge. one can't get by simply with bind
> before/after.
+1.
i haven't do
> cat -s - -s '' -v
>
> prints the contents of file named '-v', squeezing multiple empty lines
> (BSD -s) and silencing error message (System V -s).
classic!
- erik
just a friendly schedule reminder
- wip are due tomorrow 5. oct 2009 at 21:00 gmt. this can't
be extended, but this doesn't need to be a final draft. the program this
year is pretty full, so if you'd like to talk about what you've
been working on, you'll have the best chance if you submit a
wip r
> Now I may be way off here, but I though that perhaps the tab character
> in front of
> VIRT_BASE here may cause it to not be recognized by xenelf. I joined
> it into one line,
> and I am rewarded with a different error message:
>
> "xc_dom_alloc_segment: segment start isn't page aligned".
>
> > VESA requires realmode.
>
> Thank you Erik, it was an oversight from my part. I was able to start rio
> in 1024x768x8 and 1280x1024x8 using the VESA driver, however, the keyboard
> was not working, and the pointer had no cursor.
VESA also requires *nomp=1 in your plan9.ini. i have
seen the p
> Do you have the CD-ROM drive attached to the VM while you boot it?
>
> I remember Plan 9 didn't start when you have an empty CD-ROM drive
> connected to the VM on ESX 3.5. So I removed the CD-ROM drive from VM's
if this is the case, it seems simple enough to fix. can anyone confirm?
- erik
> Trying to build /sys/src/libip for the arm today, I found that mk was dying.
>
> /sys/include/ip.h:128 eipfmt.c:3 incomplete structure element: payload
>
> Is this a known problem?
i think you need to update your compiler source code and rebuild.
5c builds all the libraries for me.
- erik
> grep foo -- *
>
> will still not work because rc's globbing also fears zero and returns the
> pattern instead of an empty list if there are no matches.
i used to think that was a misfeature.
in college i wrote a shell that elided
failed globs in the argument list.
the problem is that people
> interesting. i just tried it and it works. the admin tool
> (lab manager) wont allow the cd drive to be removed
> but assigning a .iso to it works as well.
>
> i wonder why?
probablly a problem with sdata.c.
- erik
> > if (perm&0400 == 0) then do a mkdir with 0400, an open, and an fchmod.
> > Tomorrow,
> > that is. I think the work-around is pretty easy.
> > I figure the 0400 might work because mode has to be OREAD at this point
> > anyway.
>
> This is the only way to do it, since as I earlier pointed out,
On Mon Oct 5 09:46:01 EDT 2009, rodri...@gmail.com wrote:
> thanks erik,
> i had to update the 5* sources by hand. pull thought they are up to date.
>
> rod
you may also wish to apply the patch i posted to make the
comma operator work.
- erik
>
> It looks like the haiku partition map was confusing it. I used gparted
> and created a new one and its ok
i think this is worth fixing, if you have the time to
take a look off line. divide-by-zero because of
unexpected input is not acceptable.
- erik
> I've learned to avoid
> globbing as much as possible. In any shell with command
> substitution globbing is unnecessary, and is often dangerous.
> I would happily use a shell with NO globbing, just to avoid
> another source of worries.
i think this is all a bit dramatic.
there are very simple i
On Mon Oct 5 13:38:51 EDT 2009, lu...@ionkov.net wrote:
> Boots fine from the CD and installs on a Shuttle X27. When booting
> from the hard disk, I get a lot of
>
> ide: caught missed irq
>
> and no working system. It hangs somewhere after
>
> version... time...
>
> Thanks,
> Luch
On Mon Oct 5 13:37:36 EDT 2009, lu...@ionkov.net wrote:
> Boots fine from the CD and installs on a Shuttle X27. When booting
> from the hard disk, I get a lot of
i missed this in my original reply. i would guess that
turning off mp interrupts will do the trick for you.
the mp table must be confu
> For interactive use, an environment variable WARNIFEMPTY or something could
> request warnings (or ERRORIFEMPTY for errors) from the shell if a glob expands
> to nothing; or from commands if a command is run with no files to operate on.
>
> Or perhaps we could have a different globber that does
On Mon Oct 5 14:45:01 EDT 2009, lu...@ionkov.net wrote:
> I don't see neither /dev/mpirq nor /dev/nompirq.
>
you're correct. the quickest fix would be to download
the atom sources and recompile with "nomp" in the link
section. i will correct the cd. sorry.
have you tried with "*nomp=1"?
- e
please get yer stuff in asap.
- erik
On Mon Oct 5 17:35:11 EDT 2009, m...@acm.jhu.edu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For those of us traveling to IWP9, what are recommended ways to get
> from Atlanta to Athens? We were likely going to Atlanta by train...
>
> Thanks,
> -- vs
i've updated the iwp9.org page with a link to a local shuttle.
the shut
On Mon Oct 5 20:18:06 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm just now looking at tex on plan 9 and finding that a 14-year old
> release is not that useful with the newer packages.
>
> Has anyone tried newer stuff at all?
i just hate how the rush to use every last new feature
leads to things l
> have your tried dma on?
>
> my installation has the same problem, but once it starts dma on
> everything works fine.
> It is annoying if you only enable dma through cpurc or termrc because
> untill it runs them everything is slow. good erik's sd stuff allows
> you to run dma right at the beginin
> I last built the C version of TeX quite some time ago. At the time, it
> was quite portable.
>
> Imagine my surprise to go to the new stuff and find ... Makefile.in
> ... configure.
>
> I had no idea. So much for a new port :-)
modern tex reminds me of vger from star trek. so much
encrusting
> > `ln foo/' would hardlink no files into the directory foo,
> would read a list of filenames in and ln them
better: ln: '/bin/ln' directory entry not found
- erik
> There are a lot basic UNIX/p9 utilities which treat empty lists
> inconsistently. It would be nice if there were fewer, but you
> can't arrange that without breaking many things.
the beauty is that these utilities do inconsistent things,
and therefore are not easily confused.
we're arguing
>
> if anyone want to rent a car, let me know so maybe a few people can
> share the expenses.
i should have mentioned that driving is generally very easy
as long as you can use the carpool lane. (but then again, i didn't
mind driving in greece.) you only need two
people for this. if you use i-
On Tue Oct 6 11:19:07 EDT 2009, lu...@ionkov.net wrote:
> Adding *sdE0dma=on fixed the problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Lucho
i'm glad that's unsightly hack is working for you.
clearly we're doing some pio naughty. this should
get fixed.
if anyone with this problem can bring the offending
equipment
On Tue Oct 6 12:18:40 EDT 2009, ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> The beagleboard is somewhat painful. It has a cortex-a8 cpu,
> which is quite a bit more complex than older arms.
is there specific pain to the a8 arms, or is it just that
everything is a bit less tidy?
- erik
On Tue Oct 6 12:23:30 EDT 2009, jrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a way to get scat to dump whatever you've plotted so it can
> be printed? I guess I really mean to ask if plot can be used to print,
> since that's what scat drives
if you know the window id, you can manipulate
/dev/w
> as bad as the ARM may be, it can't hold a candle to what the pentium has
> become:
> 1. RISC CPU (undocumented) in the northbridge (MCH) running ThreadX
> 2. RISC CPU in the Ethernet part running ThreadX
> 3. Simple CPU in the southbridge (ICH) running, well, who knows. But
> the entire system w
> >>>at the end of the carpool lane (when you
> >>> see the big fry's electronics), head down 316 ...
>
> i suspect there would first be a stop at fry's if it's not too late.
>
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=-&sll=33959379,-84122658&latlng=33959379,-84122658,17156391625355121537
- erik
> Excuses are eerily the same, each time, almost without regard to the
> product family:
> "nobody else wants that"
> "we no longer release that information"
> etc. etc. etc.
intel has been good to me. perhaps i'm just
doing different things.
my experience with intel has been that if it's
not av
> >Just like you wouldn't have wanted to redo the microcode
> >in your Vax 11/750, even if you could have.
>
> i thought several universities did modify the microcode in various ways,
> to test some research ideas, or just to improve things.
like this one
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cf
On Tue Oct 6 22:34:46 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Latchesar Ionkov wrote:
> > Or you can setup Plan9 on my gumstix cluster :)
> >
>
> bring that one too!
i've got a SAS disk with a dual-core arm processor. it's got
32mb of memory. do you think we coul
> Everything can be carried to extreme. Even ancestor worship. The
> basic utilities were written by smart people who didn't always fully
> understand what they were doing. There is nothing radical about
> suggesting that we try not to repeat their mistakes.
well why not take your own advice an
> Would you please start reading posts before replying to them? The
> only thing I have proposed is that people stop gratituously creating
> programs which treat empty lists exceptionally. If that is what you
> mean by the paragraph above then I do try to implement it, and am
> quite happy with t
> Thinking about it a bit more ... when systems become more and more
> closed, as x86 systems are becoming now, the field of innovation is
> reduced to what a single company can think of -- the monopoly
> provider, so to speak.
you're right "nobody wants to do that" is not a good argument.
but on
On Thu Oct 8 16:43:50 EDT 2009, fors...@vitanuova.com wrote:
> >but by 1990 with microchannel &c. things were much more closed off.
>
> i thought only one company ever really made microchannel,
> and even they weren't terribly in earnest in the end,
> except on non-PC things like RS6000.
in the
> lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> >>> but by 1990 with microchannel &c. things were much more closed off.
> >> i thought only one company ever really made microchannel,
> >> and even they weren't terribly in earnest in the end,
> >> except on non-PC things like RS6000.
> >
> > IBM tried to recover c
On Sun Oct 11 15:01:36 EDT 2009, eri...@gmail.com wrote:
> I was going to try - I've got a wireless lav mic, camera, and all the
> right tools for either ustream or livestream.
>
> -Eric
we're not sure what kind of connectivity we've got
at uga yet. sorry about this.
- erik
> great! just as an aside, 9load-e820 contains a hack which
> allows one to use bootdev and bootpath as replaceable
> parameters. if venti is on your boot disk, you could say
>
> venti=bootpath/venti
>
> the mechanism behind this needs to be fixed, but i've
> enjoyed not working about w
the complete but provisional program is up on
http://iwp9.org.
- erik
On Sun Oct 11 23:03:41 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have one request. Cost to you will be $99 plus shipping and I'll
> expect cash on delivery :-)
>
> Delivery to athens ga. by me. Again, I can only take a few more orders
> but I'll do it. I'm going to order tomorrow.
i don't know that
when trying (unsuccessfully) to get the nvidia driver working
correctly for my card, i wondered if a few registers weren't
slightly off. i could be wrong and this was a long time ago,
but fwiw:
vga->crt[0x04] = mode->shs/8 - 1; /* differs by
-1 */
vga->crt[0
and up on http://iwp9.org.
if your staying at the holiday inn,
it's straight down the hill at the bottom.
there is limited parking there, but it's
going to be $10 every time you move your
car.
if anyone is going to be in town
earlyish on tuesday, drop me a line.
early is defined as before 10pm,
at
does anyone know why page /mnt/wsys/wsys/$windowid/window
sometimes works and sometimes doesn't with drawterm. example
grabbing the image from page x.ps does not work for me, regardless of
the size of the window.
faces works fine however.
- erik
> Speaking of page, it has a fixed buffer size preventing the display of
> wide images. I haven't had time to look at the code, but do rather
> wish it were more flexible.
that's not page's fault — it's drawterm's.
- erik
> http://ramp.eecs.berkeley.edu/
>
> Tim: Andrew Baumann is aware of Plan 9 but their approach is quite a
> bit different. They are consciously avoiding the networking issue as
> well(they've been asked to extend their messaging model to the network
> and have actively said they're not interested)
On Thu Oct 15 06:55:24 EDT 2009, s...@nipl.net wrote:
> task. With respect to Ken, Bill Gates said something along the lines of "who
> would need more than 640K?".
on the other hand, there were lots of people using computers with 4mb
of memory when bill gates said this. it was quite easy to see
On Thu Oct 15 08:01:29 EDT 2009, w...@conducive.org wrote:
> Richard Miller wrote:
> >> It's easy to write good code that will take advantage of arbitrarily many
> >> processors to run faster / smoother, if you have a proper language for the
> >> task.
> >
> > ... and if you can find a way around
On Thu Oct 15 09:41:29 EDT 2009, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote:
> > in fact, i believe i used an apple ][ around
> > that time that had ~744k.
>
> Are you sure that was an apple II? When I bought mine I remember
> wrestling with the decision over whether to get the standard 48k of
> RAM or upgrade to t
On Thu Oct 15 11:06:41 EDT 2009, leim...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:11 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > There is a vast range of applications that cannot
> > > be managed in real time using existing single-core technology.
> >
> > I'm sorry to interrupt your discu
i'd be happy to read δ more and be ε less ignorant
(i suppose that doesn't help with the large H),
but it seems that http://ramp.eecs.berkeley.edu/
is missing in action. does anyone have more precise
references so that things can be dug out of google's
cache?
- erik
> i am pretty sure you would find almost all the publications
> by googling for the title of each.
that would require knowing the titles for each.
- erik
the comment in resample's man page is really true.
it produces great output s-l-o-w-l-y.
i needed to convert some pic(1)tures to transparent gifs.
unfortunately gif(1) doesn't do that. so i took a snapshot
of the page window with
crop -i5 /mnt/wsys/$id/window | topng > $target
and fed the
> @{builtin cd $1 && tar cf /fd/1 .} | @{builtin cd $2 && tar xTf /fd/0}
> instead of
> {builtin cd $1 && tar c .} | {builtin cd $2 && tar xT}
consider,
; one=/bin; two=/tmp; cd /
; @{builtin cd $one} | @{builtin cd $two} ; pwd
/
; {builtin cd $one} | {builtin cd $t
> > > There is a vast range of applications that cannot
> > > be managed in real time using existing single-core technology.
> >
> > please name one.
>
> Your apparent lack of imagination surprises me.
>
> Surely you can see that a whole range of applications becomes possible when
> using a mas
On Fri Oct 16 15:47:15 EDT 2009, st...@quintile.net wrote:
> An example makes things clear - appologies for the poor quality of
> the joke.
>
> http://www.quintile.net/doorstep/broken-animated-image.gif
that's essentially the same problem as with the page
i posted. except the images are presente
i've recently been suffering from tearing in drawterm
http://www.quanstro.net/9fans/tear.png
; xrdb -symbols | grep REL
-DRELEASE=10503000
- erik
i missed this the first time
On Fri Oct 16 17:19:36 EDT 2009, jason.cat...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Instantaneous building of a complex project from source.
> > (I'm defining instantaneous as less than 1 second for this.)
>
> Depends on how complex.
good story. it's hard to know when to rewrite.
g
> it never actually formats any lines. If, on the other hand, while
> formatting on stdin, fmt(1) formatted on a line-by-line basis (per
> '\n'), then its use (at least for me) could be greatly widened.
i don't think this will help. unless you multithread fmt (seems silly),
you're going to have t
On Sun Oct 18 20:37:23 EDT 2009, aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net wrote:
> I'm trying to put up a plain text file containing UTF-8
> characters from httpd, but when viewing it from any
> browser, it comes off as an ASCII file that needs to
> be downloaded (so, those characters are garbled).
> Is this du
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