Re: [9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS

Noah++

Re: [9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS

Didn't your mother tell you saying nothing is better than saying something rude? :-) I've learned this new thing in the past few years. It's hard, I know...

Re: [9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS

"And the King shall answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you have done it to one of the least of these my brothers, you have done it to me." On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Noah Evans wrote: > Heh.. go ahead. > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Joseph Stewart > wrote: > > Th

Re: [9fans] iwp9 deadline extension

Is there an IWP9 website for this year that provides information about dates and locations? Thanks, D On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > 2009/8/28 Eric Van Hensbergen : > > Satelite conference locations in Antwerp and Oz may be be a bad idea > > assuming folks can accomodat

Re: [9fans] remote usb?

What kind of USB device are you considering whose data can't be exported. i.e. why not export the FS on the USB flash drive? I have a feeling you're going for something else here, though. Perhaps USB audio or something without persistent storage. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Tim Newsham wrote:

[9fans] SheevaPlug

So, what is everyone's preferred plug vendor? Out of the three, is there a preference for people out there hacking on the Sheeva? Thanks, D

Re: [9fans] SheevaPlug

So, I honestly haven't been paying enough attention to Sheeva and Gumstix. What does everyone think about hacking on both of these? Which one is the easier platform to develop on/for? While Sheeva is substantially faster, Gumstix has more interesting expansion cards. I'd love to hear some opinions.

Re: [9fans] What do you use plan 9 for?

I initially used Plan 9 to learn more advanced security architecture concepts, so for me it was initially a research OS. However, I learned that it is surprisingly functional and versatile and I have used it for over 6 years now as a strong development environment, off and on as my desktop OS, and

Re: [9fans] du and find

du -a | awk '-F\t' '{print $2}' - On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > i agree that du -a has a few holes. too bad whitespace > is allowed in file names. i use the attached find.c. > it's also available as contrib quanstro/find. by default > the output is quoted so that it

Re: [9fans] du and find

While it's true that you'll have misses on tabs in filenames, it's much more rare to have a tab in a filename than it is to have a space, yes? There is no loss on a single quote character. You're quoting the command line argument. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:35 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Mon De

Re: [9fans] du and find

To be fair, the correct script on Plan 9 is academic. Just do what gets the job done for you now. Don't go down an academic black hole. These guys have been arguing about `find` since 2002. D On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 6:00 PM, anonymous wrote: > > While it's true that you'll have misses on tabs i

Re: [9fans] du and find

Chicken dinner! On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Tim Newsham wrote: > It is suggested to use >> du -a | awk '{print $2}' >> instead of find. But what if filename contains spaces? For example if >> file is named "foo bar" then awk will output "foo" only. >> > > What about > > du -a | sed 's/

Re: [9fans] Coraid funded

Wow, that is really awesome. Congrats, indeed! D On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Brantley Coile wrote: > I just want to share with the list that we have announced that Coraid, the > largest distributor of Plan 9 systems in the world, has accepted some > serious venture funding. See the link b

Re: [9fans] In case anyone worries about block hash collision in venti

The e-mail trick is just an example, but the scenario is still valid. Consider an alternative scenario where an attacker is able to upload files to your server (perhaps jpg, gif, etc) via a web application or FTP server. Or perhaps, if someone were able to contribute source or a tarball by uploadin

[9fans] runebase breaking libs build

Hi All, Looks like a change in libc/port/runebase.c is breaking builds. Does anyone have a quick fix? Looks like the issue isn't specific to a particular compiler, but illegal runes in the runebase.c file. runebase.c:1255 illegal rune in string ... Thanks, D

Re: [9fans] runebase breaking libs build

The build scripts should probably address this so people that haven't updated in a while aren't spinning wheels. Thanks. > On Jan 18, 2015, at 9:01 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > >> On Sun Jan 18 15:19:46 PST 2015, don.bai...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Looks like a change in libc/p

Re: [9fans] runebase breaking libs build

So this issue is clearly documented somewhere that people can catch up quickly? > On Jan 18, 2015, at 9:14 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > >> On Sun Jan 18 20:10:38 PST 2015, don.bai...@gmail.com wrote: >> The build scripts should probably address this so people that haven't >> updated in a while

Re: [9fans] runebase breaking libs build

This will be the last email I send regarding this issue as I have no interest in getting into a long drawn-out 9fans-style discussion. I upgraded via pull, then `{cd /sys/src/; mk objtype='amd64' install}; which broke at libc. If the issue is the compilers not being built first, maybe it could be

Re: [9fans] cmovne

Technically, there are a few instructions that the 9 compilers miss. This is generally handled by the BYTE directive (see the asm manual). Alternatively, adding a new instruction to the lexer/etc is fairly trivial. See diffs between vc and kc, for example. D > On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:27 PM, e

Re: [9fans] cmovne

Ahh gotcha. > On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:37 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > >> On Sun Feb 8 15:31:26 PST 2015, don.bai...@gmail.com wrote: >> Technically, there are a few instructions that the 9 compilers miss. >> This is generally handled by the BYTE directive (see the asm manual). >> >> Alternative

Re: [9fans] Will the future Internet resemble Plan 9 namespaces?

Yes. Yes, it will. #Hints > On May 11, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Skip Tavakkolian > wrote: > > It is interesting that one of the possible futures of the Internet -- PARC's > NDN (Named Data Networking) -- resembles Plan 9's namespaces where the user > is most interested in the name of the resource

Re: [9fans] joke's on us

Lame. > On Sep 26, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Skip Tavakkolian > wrote: > > Plan 9 is now popular enough to make fun of: > > https://www.zulip.org/clients.html >

Re: [9fans] glenda

Nice :) > On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:44 PM, David Hoskin wrote: > > >

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

Plan 9 shall never die. On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:21 AM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I see from the archive (http://marc.info/?l=9fans) there were no > messages at > > all in June, maybe everyone was tired out after the 203 messages in May? > > The 9fans mailing list was dow

[9fans] IWP9 2008

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there a website for this year's IWP9 with the usual info? D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH1KV1yWX0NBMJYAcRArLxAJwKwjMbJie3xsTJEhwM5ZQdTAfX0ACfZYZE oZ8vnVRTiad/AWUqubdv6Nw= =HS0W -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [9fans] IWP9 2008

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > The PC will be announced soon. > "PC" meaning what? D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH4+veyWX0NBMJYAcRAm5HAKCNQL01wjN6UXAWOK260btBtfEOnACfW5Q3 K1oitsWXMqtHc1xfm3R//+4= =jl+c -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [9fans] why not Lvx for Plan 9?

But Linux use symlinks. Is there a way to make symlinks on the Plan 9 filesystem and make them accessible with NFS? The kernel probably doesn't care. Symlinks are just files whose contents are another file's path. As long as the kernel knows how to interpret it I'm sure it'd be fine. Look at th

Re: [9fans] dns exploits (self-promotion remix)

The exploit doesn't simply rely on the 16bit dns XID. Rather, it's reliant on the fact that bind servers (and some others) send requests from a static port. Obviously, if you control a DNS server or you can sniff the target DNS server's path, you can figure this out. The second part to the trick

Re: [9fans] dns exploits (self-promotion remix)

if you're running ndb/dns -r, you need to build and boot a new kernel to get the full 30 bits. Bing!

Re: [9fans] dns exploits (self-promotion remix)

i don't understand this 1. plan 9 never used a static source port for queries, and more importantly Erm, sequential source ports are close enough. 2. who does recursive queries on external interfaces? i would have considerd this a configuration error and security problem ten years ago. T

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Blue Gene

1. rewrite apps in plan 9 c. The Plan 9 C compiler is fine for what we do on Plan 9. For scientific apps, it's not that great a compiler. The IBM compilers know all the tricks. The effort to get Plan 9 C up to the standards of XLC is mind-boggling. And XLF? We're not going to write a Fortran compi

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Blue Gene

Can you elaborate here? What tricks can the IBM compilers use that the Plan 9 ones can't? Are we talking optimization? > No, really, that's not troll bait. I'm actually interested in understanding the project's basis for discriminating against specific compiler capability. Obviously Plan 9's co

Re: [9fans] first up against the wall

Bruce Ellis wrote: > bind /dev/null /env/brain > <3

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 security

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:47 PM Ethan Gardener wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, at 2:29 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: > > > > Fwiw Plan 9’s code vase has indeed been audited. By me. Several > exploitable bugs were found including a kernel exploit due to the env > driver. I wrote a working PoC for it wh

Re: [9fans] Re: moving 9fans to new server, but still 9fans@9fans.net

+1 On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:37 AM Russ Cox wrote: > By all appearances, 9fans mail is flowing through Topicbox now. > > The 9fans archives now hosted > at Topicbox contain all the messages > formerly at 9fans.net/archive (before that machine went down)

Re: [9fans] Sad news.

<3 On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 1:33 PM Federico Benavento wrote: > Damn, I’m really sad to hear this, I never met him personally, but he was > always fine guy to talk to. > My condolences to his family and friends. :( > > On 28 Sep 2020, at 15:32, Dan Cross wrote: > > I just got word that Andrey ha

Re: [9fans] Definitinon list of the # filesystems

Grep the source code not the man pages :> D On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 11:48 PM wrote: > Is there a relatively concise list of the # filesystems (#s, #|, etc) > and what each of them is/contains hiding somewhere? I've been poking > around for one and not having much luck. I suppose one could be

Re: [9fans] Definitinon list of the # filesystems

Trust the process. Grep the src. Also don't trust /dev/drivers because it only includes compiled in things, not things that are available in the tree. D On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:11 AM Dworkin Muller wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 23:51:24 -0700, Don Bailey > wrote: > don.ba

Re: [9fans] Definitinon list of the # filesystems

Grep the kernel tree for 'devtab'. Each device has a character and its name listed in the devtab definition. Pretty easy. D On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:23 AM Dworkin Muller wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 00:12:27 -0700, Don Bailey > wrote: > don.bailey> Trust the proce

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

Can this question be resolved by a source tree that depicts license by path? In other words, if things are contributed outside of what the MIT License would support, is that notated somewhere? This way, people with these concerns can easily separate known from uncertain licensed objects? Also, is

[9fans] Building 9vx on a modern Linux?

Hi Pals, I'm trying to build 9vx using the current vx32 repo. I have (as I understand it) installed multiarch in my Ubuntu environment (22). But I can't compile 9vx. It fails to find the 32bit libx11, which is installed under /usr/lib/i386/ and instead insists on looking under /usr/lib/x86_64.

Re: [9fans] Building 9vx on a modern Linux?

:i386 > g++-multilib > > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 9:48 PM Don Bailey wrote: > >> Hi Pals, >> >> I'm trying to build 9vx using the current vx32 repo. I have (as I >> understand it) installed multiarch in my Ubuntu environment (22). But I >> can't co

Re: [9fans] Re: How do I run plan9 in virtualbox?

forgot to respond to this but fwiw, running plan9 on virtualbox seems to work peachy. Hiro what was the bug(s) you were running into before? I've never ran into an issue with it, but I've only used vbox on Linux; maybe it's a host/CPU issue? D On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 4:50 PM Robert W. Baskette w

[9fans] Contrib mirror?

Hi Fans, Is there a live mirror of the Contrib sources? There are a few packages I need and I can't figure out who hosts them, currently. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks, D -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tc8858cb55

[9fans] RPi in QEMU

Has anyone gotten Miller's RPI image to boot in QEMU? I'm trying to use -M raspi1, raspi2, and versatilepb, but nothing boots. I'm using the 9pi kernel image (both 9pi2 and 9pi4) from contrib and -hda ./9pi.img. Any advice? Thanks, D -- 9fans: 9fans Permali

Re: [9fans] Plan9 multi-core support

Rob - would you be willing to tell us what the novel work is (and more about it) that still has relevance today? I'm sure I'm not the only one on the list that would love to learn more about that history. Best, D On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 7:54 PM Rob Pike wrote: > A big reason for doing Plan 9,

[9fans] runebase.c illegal rune in string

Hi All, When attempting to build an ARM binary, I am getting an error in libc/port/runebase.c on several lines (such as 1255). The error is "illegal rune in string". Can anyone tell me how to patch this? If I "pull" from this plan9 image, nothing updates, even after changing the sources to 9p.io .

[9fans] Remind me how to make the fs writable for `mk install'

Hi All, I am trying to `mk install' all cmds/libs. Can someone please remind me how to tell fossil that an active fs can be written? Thank you, D -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9322be37362fa93a-M02d167d63d46a22890443c9

[9fans] Re: runebase.c illegal rune in string

Oh, I see. I thought I had the latest version of the tools installed, but once I 'mk all' in sys/src, I can now compile ports without errors. Resolved. D On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 9:22 PM Don Bailey wrote: > Hi All, > > When attempting to build an ARM binary, I am getting

Re: [9fans] Remind me how to make the fs writable for `mk install'

stance with the correct permissions - sorry about > being so concise, but I think you'll get the idea... > > Mail me personally and I'll check more carefully what I do on my > system - I generally add the feature to /bin/9fs or it's already > there: "9fs fossil"

Re: [9fans] RPi in QEMU

Hmm, I've applied the patches and built the kernel. I can see the image loaded at 0x8001, but it is spinning at address 0x000c; is this a sdmmc load loop? I'm using version 8.0.0 of QEMU. What version are you using, Mr. Miller? Also, since the SD takes seconds to load and not ms/us, how lo

Re: [9fans] RPi in QEMU

Took a minute to snarf your 9pi2.qemu off of contrib and run it on my 8.0.0... (it wasn't there last night; depends on when 9pio syncs the web interface, I suppose) It runs just peachy. Based on the diffs you supplied, it looks like my bcm sources (from the latest r4 ISO) are not the same as yours

Re: [9fans] RPi in QEMU

Yeah it must be patches in 9legacy because pulling the bcm from contrib and using that does not alone fix the kernel. Interestingly, I can get a kernel to boot in a raspi1ap emulated image, but it faults on what I presume is the jump to userland, resets, and auto-boots the kernel again in an i

Re: [9fans] RPi in QEMU

the frame buffer, or the system is hung. Any thoughts on why that might have occurred? Is this to do with the watchdog...? Thanks, this is excellent and useful. D On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 10:01 PM Don Bailey wrote: > Yeah it must be patches in 9legacy because pulling the bcm from > contri

[9fans] 9Legacy status

Hi All, Just curious if 9Legacy is considered the right place to submit modern patches? Is that kind of the 'go to' repository for modern patches/improvements to the 'mainline' Bell Labs distro? Thanks, D -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.

Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks

I used to run plan9 exclusively (main OS) between around 2004-2010 and I had a lot of luck with Compaq and Thinkpad (Lenovo). In fact, I was considering doing this again... but... instead of buying a newer laptop and worrying about chip compatibility, I actually am considering buying an older compa

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

Breh. No. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:45 PM wrote: > Dear 9fans, as enthusiasts and experts of Plan 9, you are undoubtedly > aware of the unique position this operating system holds in the world of > distributed computing. Its influence on modern computing paradigms is > undeniable. In the spiri

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

I've been posting on 9fans for 20 years, hacking the kernel as long, and porting it to various chips and SoCs for as long. I don't have to prove anything to you. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:50 PM Noam Preil wrote: > It might help to believe that if you wrote actual ideas about what > should be

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

Direction comes from people writing code... but you write code for 9front, yes? What does that have to do with mainline Plan 9? And what does that have to do with the direction set forth by the people that actually designed it? On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 7:20 AM wrote: > This email suffers from a

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

I'm not sure what all this was, so I didn't read most of it. If 9front becomes the "mainline" 9, I will stop using 9 altogether. Both as a user and a developer. I trust the sources that come from 9legacy/9pio but I don't have any interest in the mess of whatever 9front is supposed to be. D On T

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

You're welcome! On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:09 PM Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:44:34AM -0500, Don Bailey wrote: > > I'm not sure what all this was, so I didn't read most of it. > > This tracks

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

Sounds like you're happy keeping 9front separate from "mainline", then. Works for me :-) On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:20 PM Jacob Moody wrote: > On 1/25/24 09:35, Don Bailey wrote: > > Direction comes from people writing code... but you write code for > 9front, yes

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

Cool gaslighting. On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:25 PM Bakul Shah wrote: > On Jan 25, 2024, at 8:44 AM, Don Bailey wrote: > > > > I'm not sure what all this was, so I didn't read most of it. > > > > If 9front becomes the "mainline" 9, I will

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

. > > > — thedæmon 🫠 > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:31 AM, Don Bailey > wrote: > > Cool gaslighting. > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:25 PM Bakul Shah wrote: > >> On Jan 25, 2024, at 8:44 AM, Don Bailey wrote: >> > >> > I&#x

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

inline", > people > see where the effort is going, endorsement or not. > > On 1/25/24 10:44, Don Bailey wrote: > > I'm not sure what all this was, so I didn't read most of it. > > > > If 9front becomes the "mainline" 9, I will stop using 9 alto

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

Cool rant. D On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 1:50 PM Jacob Moody wrote: > It doesn't matter if one is "mainline" or not, you've completely missed > the point of my mail. > One is usable and the other is not. One has a community, the other does > not. One has people > who share source, there other does

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

Cool assessment, Jung Noam. On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 3:20 PM wrote: > Quoth Don Bailey : > > Cool rant. > > It's incredible to me that you can put in so much effort to make sure that > the strength of your convictions is clear, while also putting in so little > effo

Re: Clarifying Lucio's Additional Requests [Was: Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9. ]

This thread is perhaps one of the best examples of the bizarre ecosystem that Plan 9 has evolved (devolved?) into. While I have not always understood Vic's choices, I was, in the past, aware of his /position/ at certain entities... and provided him with security information I hoped was relevant to

Re: Clarifying Lucio's Additional Requests [Was: Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9. ]

. That said, I have been excited by the developments in the 9front and 9legacy, etc, groups, even if I don't fully agree with all the decision making. It at least means people are still interested in building, and that's a good start... D On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 10:57 AM sirjofri w

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

This is part of the issue I've had with 9front. If there are valid reasons for things to disappear or not be used, that's OK. But please document them and provide rationale/evidence for their removal. That way, even if another group chooses not to remove those items, they can learn from other teams

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

with is brushed off as trolling or "gaslighting" or any other such term that rationalizes dismissal. Let's be prescriptive, instead. D On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 11:40 AM Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 11:20:48AM -0400, Don Ba

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

items, and the rationale/context, would solve that. Does that help illuminate the problem I'm discussing? On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 11:53 AM Jacob Moody wrote: > On 5/15/24 10:20, Don Bailey wrote: > > This is part of the issue I've had with 9front. If there are valid > reasons f

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

The presumption you're making is based on the fact that it is easy /for you/. A valid reason is, for those that don't know what Fossil is, and what to understand the history of 9fans decision making, there is no way to know that decision was made, or why. D On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:07 PM hiro

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

you reproduce it? What code is bad? Why is the code bad? If you can't answer these questions, maybe you shouldn't have removed it. D On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:12 PM Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 11:53:28AM -0400, Don Bailey wrote

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

Sounds good. D On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:19 PM Jacob Moody wrote: > On 5/15/24 10:56, Don Bailey wrote: > > Yeah but that's the thing... "explained in this list" works while the > discussion is being had. But searching for that and attempting to grok the >

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

Back to square one, are we lol On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:24 PM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The presumption you're making is based on the fact that it is easy /for > you/. > > That is correct. > > > A valid reason is, for those that don't know what Fossil is, and what to > understand the h

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

You handwave insults off by pretending like they aren't directed at the exact person you're responding to :-) It's quite tiresome, and yet persistent. D On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:53 PM Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:2

[9fans] Spook/Glenda image use restrictions?

All, Does anyone know the use restrictions for the Glenda image or the Spook icon for mail? I'd like to use them in slides for an upcoming security lecture but I don't know if that case falls under fair use. Ideas? Thanks, D

Re: [9fans] 3-button mouse

Sun Microsystems USB 3-button mouse has always been my preferred mouse for Plan 9. Still is. And they're cheap. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:52 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Tue May  4 23:22:19 EDT 2010, r...@swtch.com wrote: >> A correspondent recently sent me email to ask >> about where to find a

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

Request to add "If you're the kind of person who understands that we don't need to change 'cat' any further, then you understand the work that is going on." to fortune. Ron++ D On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:39 AM, ron minnich wrote: > ignoring the troll, but for the rest of you here: plan 9 is *ver

[9fans] VMware resolution > 1024?

Am I missing something? VMware used to have better screen resolution than 1024x768x8, didn't it? I'm getting kernel panic when I try and switch to something higher. Suggestions? Thanks, D

Re: [9fans] VMware resolution > 1024?

t; console these days is use either 9vx or drawterm, and then setup VMWare as a > CPU/FS server. > Dave > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Don Bailey wrote: >> >> Am I missing something? VMware used to have better screen resolution >> than 1024x768x8, didn't it? I&#x

Re: [9fans] another type of static linking: send all the shared libraries with the program!

So now bin/ls is going to weigh 200 megabytes on SomeDistro thanks to a packaging of localities, terminal colours, etc? Sounds great. On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:26 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> So they've made the whole shared library mess so incredibly complex >> that you now have to bundle a pro

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

Awesome! Congrats to all involved! D On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:41 AM, ron minnich wrote: > We'd like to announce the availability of NIX, a 64-bit Plan 9 kernel > with some new ideas. The full set of changes will be covered at IWP9. > For now, here are some highlights. > > - 2 MB PTEs. 4096 byte P

[9fans] Real time Glenda

Has anyone attempted to create a real time version of Plan 9? What would this effort require? Would substantial changes to the kernel be needed? D

[9fans] Web server down?

Is the main plan9 server down? Thanks, D

Re: [9fans] Web server down?

Ah nice. Thanks, I completely missed that email. D On Oct 20, 2012, at 11:47 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: >> Is the main plan9 server down? > > Geoff warned us that he was shutting down all Plan 9 equipment at Bell > Labs. He threatened to bring them up later. > > ++L > >

[9fans] p9 vhost?

Has any progress been made on using plan9 as a virtual machine host? Thanks, D

Re: [9fans] lpdaemon

The first opportunity to write a nil byte should always be taken. Using sizeof only means that in corner cases memory disclosure may occur between where the nil should be and the end of the array. While this isn't a security critical app, it is still good coding practice. x = strlen(info.host)

Re: [9fans] lpdaemon

n case info.host is a fixe size array, a simple > info.host[sizeof info.host - 1] = 0; > would do. > > Am 05.06.2013 15:13, schrieb Don Bailey: >> The first opportunity to write a nil byte should always be taken. Using >> sizeof only means that in corner cases memory disclosure

Re: [9fans] lpdaemon

Not exactly. But, functionally close enough. I skipped commenting on strncpy to ignore the plethora of issues with lpd and focus on the question at hand. D On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:20 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Wed Jun 5 09:15:11 EDT 2013, don.bai...@gmail.com wrote: >> The first opportunit

Re: [9fans] lpdaemon

You get that I'm talking about the subsequent read back after copy, right? No need to be so competitive :) Also, you're making strange presumptions about me having presumptions. I'm not trying to say you're wrong or a poor coder, Erik. I was simply offering my point of view. Before this thread

Re: [9fans] hellaphone take 2

I've been wanting to do this for a while and tbh RISC-V makes it more cost effective / secure. D On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 1:07 PM ron minnich wrote: > I'm getting more and more bothered by the mountain of things going on in > my phones that I can never understand. > > So I got curious and found