lack of
popularity and to the fragmentation of Plan9 (9front, 9atom, 9legacy,
PlanB, other plans...)?
Kind Regards,
Dante
Dear Mr. Miller,
Would a "replica/pull -v /dist/replica/network" result in the same
system as the last 9pi kit
(http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/miller/9pi.img.gz)?
Thanks,
Dante
Thanks a lot, it works!
Kind Regards,
Dante
On 18.07.2014 16:59, Richard Miller wrote:
Would a "replica/pull -v /dist/replica/network" result in the same
system as the last 9pi kit
(http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/miller/9pi.img.gz)?
Almost. See http://9fans.net/archi
t is?
Or is the team indeed so small (or even loosing members), s.t. that a
change won't make sense?
Kind Regards,
Dante
If there is none, could it be that this contributes to the lack of
popularity and to the fragmentation of Plan9 (9front, 9atom, 9legacy,
PlanB, other plans...)?
i
ers is possible.
What do you people think?
Kind Regards,
Dante
On 19.07.2014 13:49, pmarin wrote:
Plan9 in general doesn't follow the Bazaar model ( the current usual
way of doing things ).
And this might lead to the problems pointed in my previous mails.
Or not, I might be wrong.
Kind Regards,
Dante
following hypotheses:
1. increasing the amount of contributions may not scale in the current
model.
2. submitting trivial contributions is not trivial for the contributor.
Kind Regards,
Dante
On 19.07.2014 13:51, dante wrote:
On 19.07.2014 13:49, pmarin wrote:
Plan9 in general doesn't follo
ity overlap and rewriting in a different flavour.
Kind Regards,
Dante
On 19.07.2014 14:03, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 01:49:10PM +0200, pmarin wrote:
Plan9 in general doesn't follow the Bazaar model ( the current usual
way of doing things ).
The Bazaar model is the
ng if you have spent much time with
the system. especially one with history enabled.
Sincerely: no. That's homework.
Kind Regards,
Dante
an we still save that software?
Archive.org?
Regards,
Dante
P.S. I knew that I will receive a certain amount of
conservative/negative answers for questioning the Status Quo.
I also got some very helpful ones, see Eric.
Maybe this is the right moment to ask such questions.
For years
yes
On 19.07.2014 19:31, hiro wrote:
1. Gather the good packages from the user's directories and other
sources on the net into a central system, like the core Plan9.
There is some work implied to check licenses and get
permissions.
Try 9front :)
be frozen (i.e., not editable anymore):
- no "Edit" button on
http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/software_for_Plan_9/
- no permissions for /mnt/wiki/software_for_plan9/current (wiki.wiki
444)
Cheers,
Dante
done
On 20.07.2014 00:30, erik quanstrom wrote:
The Wiki seems to be frozen (i.e., not editable anymore):
- no "Edit" button on
http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/software_for_Plan_9/
- no permissions for /mnt/wiki/software_for_plan9/current (wiki.wiki
444)
edit from plan 9.
- erik
thanks.
On 20.07.2014 02:12, Brian L. Stuart wrote:
My whole argument goes about the following hypotheses:
1. increasing the amount of contributions may not scale in
the current model.
2. submitting trivial contributions is not trivial for the
contributor.
Both of these points seem to come fr
way to import (mount) the
remote file system locally.
Cheers,
Dante
On 21.07.2014 04:55, Shane Morris wrote:
Hello again 9fans,
I'm also trying to compile hosted Inferno for OS X 10.9, all seems to
go well until the "mk install" giving this error message:
shanes-air-2:infern
What about Drawterm on Mac? Is it working well?
This would require of course configuring a CPU server...
Thanks,
Dante
On 21.07.2014 10:39, c...@9.squish.org wrote:
In tried to install Inferno because I thought that it was the
simplest
way to access (at least the file system of) my Plan9
utside the focused
window and button-2 when you click inside the focused window.
Cheers,
Dante
Dear 9fans,
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/
looks nowadays like this:
sed: Can't open /usr/web/plan9/sources.html d-rwxrwxr-x 9grid 9grid 0
Oct 20 2005 9grid --rw-rw-r-- bootes sys [etc.]
Regards,
Dante
plan9.bell-labs.com
Cheers,
Dante
On 28.07.2014 09:24, Sergey Zhilkin wrote:
Web (http) is only a translater of 9P :) use P9P to mount and list
sources.
2014-07-27 11:44 GMT+04:00 dante :
Dear 9fans,
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/ [1]
looks nowadays like this:
sed: Can't open
Thanks!
Cheers,
Dante
On 28.07.2014 10:56, Sergey Zhilkin wrote:
Your question was not about site, but only about one part of it.
Someone will come, and fix issue :)
All you need is on the *.cat-v.org [4]
2014-07-28 12:39 GMT+04:00 dante :
Why do I always get stupid answers on this list
agree, sorry.
On 28.07.2014 16:43, erik quanstrom wrote:
On Mon Jul 28 04:42:19 EDT 2014, subscripti...@posteo.eu wrote:
Why do I always get stupid answers on this list?
[...]
On 28.07.2014 09:24, Sergey Zhilkin wrote:
Web (http) is only a translater of 9P :) use P9P to mount and list
sou
Thanks to whoever rebooted the server ;)!
Cheers,
Dante
On 28.07.2014 16:56, David du Colombier wrote:
Just wondering - who should we report this too? Out of all the
characters who post on this list, I'm not sure who is associated with
Labs, 9Front, ... etc
It looks fixed now.
You s
d on 20.11.2013
(according to Google).
You can print the documentation set though yourself, at is apparently
consists of the Plan9 papers and manual pages, both available as PDF on
the Web Site.
Cheers,
Dante
On 31.07.2014 16:11, Daniel Peyrolon wrote:
I'd like to add that I also want to buy
ing files: ctl, data, raw.
What's going wrong?
Thanks,
Dante
Thanks!!
On 31.07.2014 23:16, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote:
labs usb/disk doesnt implement partitions. you need to run partfs
for that.
the 9front usb/disk implements partitions just like the kernels
devsd.
--
cinap
Why is the manual for partfs in Section 8 (system administration) and
not in Section 4 (file servers)?
This is the reason why I have overseen it.
Would it be reasonable to ask for the manpage to be moved?
Thanks,
Dante
On 31.07.2014 23:16, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote:
labs usb/disk doesnt
Another file server in Section 8: disksim.
On 01.08.2014 11:02, dante wrote:
Why is the manual for partfs in Section 8 (system administration) and
not in Section 4 (file servers)?
This is the reason why I have overseen it.
Would it be reasonable to ask for the manpage to be moved?
Thanks
Thanks for the explanation, i agree.
Dante
On 02.08.2014 03:20, erik quanstrom wrote:
On Fri Aug 1 05:05:39 EDT 2014, subscripti...@posteo.eu wrote:
Why is the manual for partfs in Section 8 (system administration) and
not in Section 4 (file servers)? This is the reason why I have
overseen
Dear 9ers,
In RC, "cat <
(or at least to
Mr. Miller's image :-).
DISCLAIMER: There might be bugs.
Kind Regards,
Dante#!/bin/rc
#
# This program clones a Raspberry Pi Plan9 installation onto another storage
device.
# Use a USB adapter for SD cards in order to write another SD card.
# The storage device will be used a
You got a huge 2GB disk.
Moreover, you probably needed an additional PC.
Cheers!
On 12.08.2014 23:49, Jacob Todd wrote:
I used dd and the 9front img.
On Aug 12, 2014 5:43 PM, "dante" wrote:
Dear 9ers,
Here is my first contribution.
AFAIK, there is no installer yet for the Ra
separately long time ago. Or even the iOS aps: there is no meaningful
IPC there.
One reason why I try to take what I can from Plan9 is that I profoundly
mistrust systems that I cannot understand due to their size/bloat.
Arnold, thanks for the food for the mind :-).
Cheers,
Dante
On 13.0
Please someone reboot the Plan9 server.
It appears to be down
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/
Also no ping.
It is the Wiki Web server, link provided in my original mail:
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/ .
I wanted to browse the sources (http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/)
and found I can't reach the Wiki and cannot find the link.
Now it appears to be working.
Of course, it is possible that the
Sorry for being too concise in the first mail :-).
And yes, it is indeed possible that more than one machine is involved;
I didn't consider this option...
Kind Regards,
Dante
On 21.08.2014 19:57, s...@9front.org wrote:
This was the long version.
Thanks. I was wondering if you
tp://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/How_to_contribute/
2. ask David du Colombier to accept and publish your patch:
http://www.9legacy.org
Cheers,
Dante
On 23.08.2014 11:32, Pedro Coutin wrote:
Hello everyone,
I made a working audio driver for the Raspberry Pi by using the
chipset
Wow, amazing work :-)!!
Cheers,
Dante
On 27.08.2014 21:16, David L. Craig wrote:
This is the publication I wished I had had several
months ago, so I decided to write it. With hundreds
of screen shots and a few choice scripts (the main one
based on maht's make_cpuauth contribution to P
Hi David,
A small review note: you can see the available devices in Plan9 with
"cat /dev/devices" (or /dev/device or so).
This might be needed in the explanation around intro(3).
Kind Regards,
Dante
On 27.08.2014 21:16, David L. Craig wrote:
This is the publication I wished
attery and clock. It mus find out what time it is
each time it boots.
Cheers,
Dante
On 06.10.2014 15:32, Mats Olsson wrote:
I can't set the correct timezone on my Raspberry Pi running Plan 9.
What I've found on the net is that I need administrative rights. I
didn't know that even wa
Correction: the Raspberry Pi has no battery
On 06.10.2014 16:03, dante wrote:
Hi Mats,
Log in (in Plan9, on a terminal machine, that means boot the machine
as...) Glenda and run:
cp /adm/timezone/India /adm/timezone/local
This won't bring you too far if you don't have a
Hi Mats,
doesn't the font get saved in the Acme image?
I don't have the manpage at hand, but Acme is usually started from a
saved image.
Cheers,
Dante
On 06.11.2014 11:01, Mats Olsson wrote:
Hi guys!
Is there a way to get a persistent font in Acme? I'm using a Raspberry
Unix using drawterm.
Cheers,
Dante
On 18.11.2014 14:29, mayur...@devio.us wrote:
i have been trying to get plan9 running on my latest and greatest
hp-aio.
failed, even while trying out 9front.
would there be some way to determine an ideal configuration for a
machine
to used solely for plan9 e
I'll test again and report if the issue is still there.
On 18.11.2014 15:11, Richard Miller wrote:
- Plan9: don't enable periodic snapshots in Fossil to avoid it getting
corrupt
I think that advice refers to a bug which was fixed in March 2012.
I don't think this applies to the Raspberry Pi.
There is no installer, so the installer defaults are here irrelevant.
For the Pi, a ready-to-boot SD image is provided.
On 18.11.2014 16:42, Kurt H Maier wrote:
Quoting dante :
- 9Front: comes with the experimental hjfs by default, whic
Hi Mats,
I posted it before; unfortunately the archive doesn't save the attached
files.
Here is the original post: http://9fans.net/archive/2014/08/78.
Please see the attachment for the script.
Cheers,
Dante
On 18.11.2014 22:28, Mats Olsson wrote:
Hi dante!
I would appreciate it a l
as a regression (or some other problem with my system).
Kind Regards,
Dante
On 19.11.2014 10:40, Steve Simon wrote:
- Plan9: don't enable periodic snapshots in Fossil to avoid it getting
corrupt
This is no longer true, this long standing bug was fixed about a year
ago.
Can you remember
Hi Steve,
how often do you snapshot? How large is the SD?
I used a 32G SD with hourly snapshots, terminal server.
I would sort of rule out the SD reliability.
After reinstalling on the corrupt SD with snapshots off, no crashes for
months of always-on.
Thanks!
Dante
On 19.11.2014 11:18
If I correctly understand, you would like functionality similar to
screen(1) in Unix or similar X11 proxies.
I don't think this utility exists in Plan9, but it should be possible to
implement.
On 07.11.2014 10:44, András Hrubák wrote:
I connect plan9 by drawterm. After closing drawterm, how do
Hi Mats,
Look in the /dev directory (ls /dev).
If you only have the boot device and an additional USB drive (in your
case, an USB-to-SD adapter),
the boot device shall be /dev/sdM0 and
the USB/SD device shall be /dev/sdU0.0
Kind Regards,
Dante
On 26.11.2014 18:16, Mats Olsson wrote:
Hi
Cool, first tester :-).
Thanks, Mats!
-- Dante
On 26.11.2014 19:16, Mats Olsson wrote:
Hi dante!
In answer to my own question: DONE. Thanks a lot!
Kind Greetings,
Mats
2014-11-26 18:56 GMT+01:00, Mats Olsson :
Hi!
So "piclone sdU0.0" would be right? I have the script in
/usr/g
you folks think?
Kind Regards,
Dante
On 18.11.2014 15:11, Richard Miller wrote:
- Plan9: don't enable periodic snapshots in Fossil to avoid it getting
corrupt
I think that advice refers to a bug which was fixed in March 2012.
Could it be that snapshots induce the same type of wear and tear on the
SD as atime?
--Dante
On 28.11.2014 07:54, David du Colombier wrote:
fossil has no option to disable atime, but kfs does.
The Fossil "open" command takes the option "-a" to
disable atime.
--
David du Colombier
ndisk Expert Pro that comes with a limited
lifetime warranty (at least in Sweden). They are fast, up to 95 mb/s,
and very reliable according to my experience.
2014-11-28 9:42 GMT+01:00, Dante :
Could it be that snapshots induce the same type of wear and tear on
the
SD as atime?
--Dante
On 28.11.20
Check, my SD's fossil also had an -a:
fsys main open -aAV
Thanks, I forgot how I configured it.
But now what did it happen?
We have a Plan9 doing nothing on my desktop.
What does it write to the SD??
On 28.11.2014 10:17, Richard Miller wrote:
The Fossil "open" command takes the option "-a" to
d
Hi all,
Does Plan9 have support for multi-core processors?
Is explicit support needed at all (like in SMP)?
D
Don't be evil :-)
On 05.02.2015 16:40, Steven Stallion wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Siarhei Zirukin
wrote:
He didn't ask about 9front.
What's 9front?
(Apologies, couldn't resist...)
Thanks a lot, Richard! That's awesome!!!
Kind Regards,
Dante
On 06.02.2015 19:13, Richard Miller wrote:
To return to the original subject ...
/n/sources/contrib/miller/9pi2 is a Plan 9 kernel which runs on the
Raspberry Pi 2 (one core only, so far). I'll put updated source
in cont
e system (say,
a large TAR archive), the mount is lost, leading to a truncated file.
Any idea how I could start debugging this?
/dev/kmesg is not verbose enough to get anything out of it.
Thanks!
Dante
On 09.02.2015 10:48, Richard Miller wrote:
1. Text windows sometimes get black "garbage" on the background that
refuses to go, even if text is scrolled over it.
The size of the "garbage" is about 1 character, and looks like an
"island". That is, neither meaningful symbol, nor random patter
I can't isolate the origin of the error...
Thanks!
Dante
On 09.02.2015 16:52, Richard Miller wrote:
2. When writing large files to an USB memory stick FAT file system
(say,
a large TAR archive), the mount is lost, leading to a truncated
file.
Try putting the memory stick on a powered usb
Wrong, there's no drawterm on the monitor connected over HDMI :-).
On 09.02.2015 23:41, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
On Feb 9, 2015, at 1:48 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
1. Text windows sometimes get black "garbage" on the background that
refuses to go, even if text is scrolled
thanks, i understand
On 10.02.2015 15:00, erik quanstrom wrote:
On Tue Feb 10 00:22:32 PST 2015, subscripti...@posteo.eu wrote:
Wrong, there's no drawterm on the monitor connected over HDMI :-).
perhaps the missing bit here is that drawterm shares almost all its
code with the plan 9
kernel
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