Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Noah Evans
Theory and practice are different. As previous posters have noted, VNC apps in the app store give us carte blanche on drawterm as long as we don't run anything dynamically on the phone itself. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: > Also, we obviously cannot use rio, unless we

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread Noah Evans
One of the principle reasons for the DS(and pending DSi port) was the novel interfaces the system provided. While we can't hack on the iPhone on an OS level directly(like we did with the DS) a drawterm that conformed to Apple's guidelines could provide a novel interface to experiment with new forms

Re: [9fans] sources down?

2009-05-22 Thread Noah Evans
Uriel here's an honest question, would you stop complaining if you had your own account on the murray hill version of plan9 will full access to the venti? You'd also have the freedom to do whatever you want with it. Yes or no. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Uriel wrote: > Something that is to

Re: [9fans] Does plan 9 support Simplicified Chinese ?

2009-06-17 Thread Noah Evans
Here's a good starting point if nobody has done anything already: http://9fans.net/archive/2000/08/260 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Shaowei Wang (wsw) wrote: > What do you mean "support chinese" ? display chinese chars or input chinese > chars? > > If you set the right font rio can display UT

Re: [9fans] Simplicified Chinese plan 9

2009-06-29 Thread Noah Evans
我已经回答你的问题。阅读存档。这是不礼貌重复自己。 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:34 AM, xiantingmanbu wrote: > HI,everyone... > Is there some ways to input Simplicifed Chinese in Plan 9 ? > looking forward for the answer... > >

Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?

2009-07-01 Thread Noah Evans
It's not how you say something, it's what you say. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:24 PM, wrote: >> On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:46, Charles Forsyth wrote: >> I think Tog's conclusions (the single set of studies put forth whenever this thing comes up) are poorly made ... >>> >>> it turns out th

Re: [9fans] Google finally announces their lightweight OS

2009-07-08 Thread Noah Evans
Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Uriel wrote: > There are such people out there, they just think that keeping ultra > paranoid secrecy and perpetuating the perception that Plan 9 is a > commercial dead end is somehow a good idea (yea, people are

Re: [9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS

2009-07-10 Thread Noah Evans
There's nothing wrong with being new. There's nothing wrong with being polite either. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:52 PM, John Floren wrote: At least once a month it happens. We can't escape. We're forever doomed to get a "Can I use Plan 9 as my desktop OS for web browsing an

Re: [9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS

2009-07-10 Thread Noah Evans
Heh.. go ahead. On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Joseph Stewart wrote: > Thanks for saying what I didn't have the words to say. May I quote you > forever? > -joe > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Noah Evans wrote: >> >> There's nothing wrong with being ne

Re: [9fans] Why does Acme only show text?

2009-07-15 Thread Noah Evans
http://9fans.net/archive/2008/05/6 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Jason Catena wrote: > Devon's anecdote is along the lines of my position.  I'm sure there's > a paper somewhere that counts parenthesis versus whitespace errors, > but I haven't yet read it.  I have programmed Lisp and Haskell (a

Re: [9fans] Using Acme as an external Editor

2009-07-27 Thread Noah Evans
That doesn't work because B ends after it plumbs the file to acme. CVS will think that you're done. You need some On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Sape Mullender wrote: > Take a look at B, which can be used to send a file > to acme.  Also you may want to familiarize yourself with plumb. > > >> He

Re: [9fans] Using Acme as an external Editor

2009-07-27 Thread Noah Evans
That doesn't work because B ends after it plumbs the file to acme. CVS will think that you're done. You need something like p9p's ipso. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Noah Evans wrote: > That doesn't work because B ends after it plumbs the file to acme. CVS > will t

Re: [9fans] detecting drawterm

2009-07-31 Thread Noah Evans
/mnt/term/dev/hostdomain? AFAIK it's always drawterm.net. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:31 PM, roger peppe wrote: > i'm probably being stupid here, but what's a good robust way > of detecting in $home/lib/profile that the remote connection > is from drawterm, so that i can start rio etc? > > current

Re: [9fans] sam as editor for mutt/pine

2009-08-03 Thread Noah Evans
I think you want to set your editor to the E program discussed on the list earlier, this will plumb your mails to whatever is listening on the plumb edit port. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM, plus 852 wrote: > Is it possible to use sam as an external editor for the mail programs > mutt or pine? I

Re: [9fans] Acme Configuration

2009-08-07 Thread Noah Evans
Aaron's problem is not dumping per se, it's saving his indentation and other command line state between sessions. Unless there's something I missed, you can only enable functions like auto-indent via the command line(-a) or via "Indent on" in acme. The dump doesn't preserve indent state so yes, Aar

Re: [9fans] Acme Configuration

2009-08-07 Thread Noah Evans
What other stuff are you thinking of? On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:02 PM, roger peppe wrote: > 2009/8/7 Noah Evans : >> The dump doesn't preserve indent state > > personally, i think it should. > > and some other stuff as well. > >

Re: [9fans] Acme Configuration

2009-08-07 Thread Noah Evans
27;t > want the old dump file to be erased with a dud > new one. > > most of this should be fairly straightforward, > i've just not made space in my life to do it yet. > > and i doubt it would be accepted as a patch anyway. > > > 2009/8/7 Noah Evans : >&

Re: [9fans] Using Guide Files

2009-08-10 Thread Noah Evans
Do you know the 2-1 chord? Try putting an Edit in the tag, then leaving the Edit commands in your guide. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: > Hello, > > When using guide files, let's say I have some Edit command or the like that > I run often on certain types of files. So I have

Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated

2009-08-10 Thread Noah Evans
man 4 disk # disk(4) On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bela Valek wrote: > I have checked it on 3 different installations, the 'usbdisk' manpage > is missing, on fresh installations too. Its not a filesystem > corruption for sure. Most other USB-related manpages still list the > nonexistent -f and

Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated

2009-08-10 Thread Noah Evans
Try it. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Iruata Souza wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Noah Evans wrote: >> man 4 disk # disk(4) >> >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bela Valek wrote: >>> I have checked it on 3 different installations, the 'usbdis

Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated

2009-08-10 Thread Noah Evans
Relax. koninck% history /sys/man/4/usb May 31 03:40:48 CES 2009 /sys/man/4/usb 6969 [geoff] ... koninck% man 4 disk USB(4) USB(4) On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Iruata Souza wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Noah Ev

Re: [9fans] bio from string

2009-08-12 Thread Noah Evans
Where are you getting the string? Are you malloc'ing it yourself? On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:20 PM, roger peppe wrote: > just to check i'm not missing something, is there a reasonable > way of getting bio(2) to read from a string rather than an fd? > i can think of various ways, but none are very

Re: [9fans] usbd error message

2009-08-13 Thread Noah Evans
Are you sure you're not running two usbds? Can send a listing of your process table? On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Bela Valek wrote: > I managed to reproduce the error in Bochs, the only thing I did was > turning on the USB support in the emulator (usb_uhci: enabled=1). > > Startup: > pcirouti

Re: [9fans] usbd error message

2009-08-13 Thread Noah Evans
bd > glenda            7    0:00   0:00      356K Rendez   usbd > glenda            8    0:00   0:00      356K Rendez   usbd > > Its a default install, nothing was modified. > > 2009/8/13 Noah Evans : >> Are you sure you're not running two usbds? Can send a listing of your

Re: [9fans] usbd error message

2009-08-13 Thread Noah Evans
c/libthread/sched.acid: '/sys/src/libthread/sched.acid' does > not exist > acid: :2: (error) no function stacks > acid: > echo kill > /proc/95/ctl > > Greetings: Béla > > 2009/8/13 Noah Evans : >> Okay, could you run: >> >>  echo 'stacks()&

Re: [9fans] usbd error message

2009-08-13 Thread Noah Evans
Can you reboot the machine and then pastebin the full transcript of what happens from boot to your usbd error? AFAIK you shouldn't have two instances of usbd running. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Bela Valek wrote: > Its a default install, i didnt modify it. > > 2009/8/13 erik quanstrom : >> On

Re: [9fans] usbd error message

2009-08-13 Thread Noah Evans
sbd is succeeding in /rc/bin/usbstart On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Bela Valek wrote: > 2009/8/13 Noah Evans : >> Can you reboot the machine and then pastebin the full transcript of >> what happens from boot to your usbd error? AFAIK you shouldn't have >> two instances of

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-14 Thread Noah Evans
For Lisp variants ask Alex Shinn(alexsh...@gmail.com), he's got an interesting scheme implementation mostly working. It's a summer of code project this year. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote: > >> So, I was browsing around the

Re: [9fans] broken contrib source

2009-08-19 Thread Noah Evans
Which machine is this on? I don't quite understand what you're saying. Aren't the contrib packages you're talking about something outside the main distribution? On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:02 AM, John Floren wrote: > Upon trying to build /sys/src/cmd for the arm today (beagleboards came > in), I fo

Re: [9fans] broken contrib source

2009-08-19 Thread Noah Evans
Aaaah. now I get it. I found it in fgb's tree. Has any announcing config(1) on the list? On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Noah Evans wrote: > Which machine is this on? I don't quite understand what you're saying. > Aren't the contrib packages you're talking abo

Re: [9fans] Issues with 2 networks, fs server, and namespaces

2009-08-21 Thread Noah Evans
Hey Devon, 1. Others know more about that than I do. Wait a bit, that problem might get solved. 2. drawterm tends to hang on secstore for me. Try a bogus -s option or use a p9p secstore/factotum and see what happens. 3. what's stopping you from setting up your external network as the one on /net.a

Re: [9fans] iwp9 deadline extension

2009-08-28 Thread Noah Evans
We don't have any travel budget now does coraid have any sponsors willing to fund travel? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:06 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: the deadline for submitting papers has been extended to 20090907. - erik

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Noah Evans
Can you get a native kernel working with qemu or parallels?the latest osx versions crash on inferno for me. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:02 PM, "Brian L. Stuart" wrote: Did you use the plan 9 kencc to build that inferno kernel? As I understand, inferno's 8c doesn't have the

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Noah Evans
One way of phrasing it: "I usually need 9fat to choose which kernel I'm going to use depending on the circumstances, is there anyway that I could reincorporate 9fat or something like it? What do I need to do to make it possible?" another way: "You losers never do anything right, where's my 9fat?

Re: [9fans] awk help; not plan9 matter

2009-09-17 Thread Noah Evans
Since you're doing character processing rather than record processing, isn't C your best tool for the job here? This is what I whipped out YMMV: #include #include #include char *str; int ntok; #define WHITESPACE(c) ((c) == ' ' || (c) == '\t' || (c) == '\n') void chgtok(Biobuf *bin

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-14 Thread Noah Evans
http://ramp.eecs.berkeley.edu/ Tim: Andrew Baumann is aware of Plan 9 but their approach is quite a bit different. They are consciously avoiding the networking issue as well(they've been asked to extend their messaging model to the network and have actively said they're not interested). On Wed, O

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-14 Thread Noah Evans
Have you read the paper? I don't think you understand the difference in scope or goals here. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:45 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> http://ramp.eecs.berkeley.edu/ >> >> Tim: Andrew Baumann is aware of Plan 9 but their approach is quite a >> bit different. They are consciously

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-14 Thread Noah Evans
Do want. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > On Oct 14, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Noah Evans wrote: > >> http://ramp.eecs.berkeley.edu/ >> >> Tim: Andrew Baumann is aware of Plan 9 but their approach is quite a >> bit different. They are consc

Re: [9fans] sed question (OT)

2009-10-30 Thread Noah Evans
This kind of problem is character processing, which I would argue is C's domain. You can massage awk and sed to do the job for you, but at least for me it's conceptually simpler to just bang out the following C program: #include #include #include #define isupper(r) (L'A' <= (r) && (r) <=

Re: [9fans] VIA VT8122 (ethervgbe), 256 packets, and further no PHY

2010-01-22 Thread Noah Evans
I had the same problem and came to the same (kludgey) solution. The ethervgbe driver is still a bit of a work in progress. Other ethernet drivers use the same trick, a pool of Blocks that are never freed, but they use _xincref inside the driver proper to make sure etheriq(..., 1) doesn't cause a re

Re: [9fans] Check out my photos on Facebook

2010-03-03 Thread Noah Evans
This has nothing to do with manners and everything to do with facebook's defaults. If you search your email for the facebook accounts of people you contact, facebook's default is to spam everybody you know. One moment of inattention turns into mailing list infamy. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:27 PM, P

Re: [9fans] Check out my photos on Facebook

2010-03-03 Thread Noah Evans
Do you care what people in your elementary school are up to now? If not, you don't need facebook. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:58 PM, wrote: >> One moment of inattention turns into mailing list >> infamy. > > So there is nothing wrong with my instincts that say that I should > stay far away from fac

Re: [9fans] recreational programming of an evening

2010-03-17 Thread Noah Evans
Doing shell debugging I wrote a fork tracer that would setproc() the return value of every fork call if non-zero. That worked fine if only the parent did the forking but it was a pain if different processes forked at different times it was even more useless when the forked process immediately exec'

[9fans] Hotel at athens airport for 11/1

2008-09-16 Thread Noah Evans
Is anybody taking an early flight out of Athens on the morning of 11/2? If so, would you be interested in splitting a hotel at athens airport(160 euros for two single beds) for the night of the 1st? Noah

Re: [9fans] p9p acme freezes on devdraw read in MacOS X

2008-10-08 Thread Noah Evans
The fixes work very well. Thank you. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have tracked this down along with another OS X display problem. >> I will push out the fix later today. > > This fix a

Re: [9fans] Any Brits going to iwp9? ...

2008-10-09 Thread Noah Evans
I think a few folks are going to try to catch an evening bus out of Athens on the night of the 29th. IIRC there are buses at 6 8 and 10pm if anyone would like to coordinate. http://www.uva-aias.net/files/lower/Transport%20to%20Volos1.pdf Noah 2008/10/9 hiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> The timetables

Re: [9fans] iwp9 hotel info

2008-10-14 Thread Noah Evans
nd, probably the Park Hotel is >> better. >> >>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Noah Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> What kind of deal did you guys get at Park hotel? I settled on a >>>> double twin at the Phillipos for

Re: [9fans] iwp9 hotel info

2008-10-14 Thread Noah Evans
What kind of deal did you guys get at Park hotel? I settled on a double twin at the Phillipos for 75 euros. On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Jeff Sickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Go directly to http://www.amhotels.gr/index_ENG.htm. It's a flash site that > can through browsers off, but there

Re: [9fans] Are there any blind users of Plan 9?

2008-10-20 Thread Noah Evans
Hey Chris, Can you describe how you interact with the system now, and how you'd do it if everything was perfect? Do you do much copying and pasting? If so how do you determine the boundaries? Do you use a braille display or text to speech stuff? Noah On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Chris Brann

Re: [9fans] iwp9 update

2008-10-22 Thread Noah Evans
That's my fault. I'll have an updated version by IWP9, I'm still ironing out a few kinks. On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Taj Khattra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the formatting of the 'mrph' paper by noah evans seems buggered in a > bunch of places (

Re: [9fans] Volos

2008-10-27 Thread Noah Evans
Nope not yet, but now that people are trickling in should we schedule a get together on the night of the 29th for everybody coming in? On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:11 AM, sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi from Volos! > Is anyone else here already? > -sqweek > >

Re: [9fans] Volos

2008-10-27 Thread Noah Evans
Works for me. Although I know some people will be coming in later than that, 10-11pm or so. So maybe pick a restaurant/bar so everyone can meet up there? On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Jonas Amoson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great idea. Just make up a place and a time. A humble suggestion; out

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-05 Thread Noah Evans
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know one thing: every major operating system I have ever heard of > leverages shared libraries. Can all those people be wrong? I don't think so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

Re: [9fans] on a slightly more fun note

2008-11-05 Thread Noah Evans
Be careful what you wish for ;) On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Brian L. Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Just booted Plan 9 on a 1024+16 node BG/P this week. . > > I'll echo the congratulations. > >> Plan is to double it just a few times until we hit 65536 or so. Then >> the fun begins: turn

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-08 Thread Noah Evans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Little troll, thy baiting f'r fray-- > My thoughtless passage has flushed away > Am not _I_ a troll like thee, > Or art not _thou_ a Goddess like me? > > Practice your

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-09 Thread Noah Evans
http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lack_of_aesthetical_refinement > > Bruce Ellis and Noa

[9fans] p9p acme freeze under osx

2008-11-12 Thread Noah Evans
When I'm using p9p acme under OSX and I have a compile/svn commit etc... running in a win window and if I click on other windows a few times acme will freeze. Has any one else noticed this behavior? Noah

Re: [9fans] Supercomputing 2008

2008-11-12 Thread Noah Evans
I'll be around but not at SC proper. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Jon Dugan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone else going to be in Austin next week for Supercomputing? I'd be > interested in an informal 9fans gathering. > > Any takers? > > Jon > >

Re: [9fans] p9p acme freeze under osx

2008-11-12 Thread Noah Evans
similar. I don't think it's crashing acme outright, it's just borking the draw code event loop somehow. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Noah Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> When I

[9fans] failed exportfs

2008-11-16 Thread Noah Evans
I'm missing something really obvious. I want to export part of my local namespace to do this I run: aux/listen1 -tv tcp!*!1979 exportfs -S /srv/npesurv listen started incoming call for tcp!*!1979 from 66.112.249.148 in /net/tcp/40 when I try to mount I get: term% 9fs tcp! myserver!1979 post...

Re: [9fans] plan9 now officially not the OS with the ugliest GUI anymore

2008-11-19 Thread Noah Evans
We just need some rounded edges. http://www.creativeandlive.com/article_images//1073/siggi.jpg On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:40 AM, andrey mirtchovski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i don't want to hear anyone complain about the plan9 gui anymore, lest > they be cast into the world of LoseThos: > >

Re: [9fans] Code for parseip()??

2008-12-05 Thread Noah Evans
I'm addicted to google code search now: http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=en&lr=&q=+ulong+parseip&sbtn=Search On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Ishwar Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can any one point me to the file containing > code for: ulong parseip(uchar *ipaddr, char *str) > described i

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent ofautomounter

2008-12-07 Thread Noah Evans
To clarify Rob's point, the phrase "moral equivalence" comes with some pretty hefty baggage. In modern usage it's primarily a right wing term, used to derogatorily refer to leftist arguments. "Morally equivalent" arguments typically assert that pro-western groups have selfish(typically economic) mo

Re: [9fans] Changelogs & Patches?

2008-12-30 Thread Noah Evans
http://code.google.com/hosting/createProject On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Uriel wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:06 PM, C H Forsyth wrote: >>>Knowing *who* made the change is often even more useful than the change >>>comment. >> >> yes. i use ls -lm on our trees, but that might not work

Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread Noah Evans
FWIW chrome seems to have major issues with livestream but safari behaves a bit better. On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote: > > On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > >> Check http://www.livestream.com/iwp9 during the workshop.  I'll post >> an update to the lis

Re: [9fans] p9p factotum available for plan 9

2010-11-11 Thread Noah Evans
You can keep srv() from eating Tattach's and Tauth's without numeric userids with the following: --- a/src/cmd/9pserve.c Wed Nov 03 15:49:22 2010 -0400 +++ b/src/cmd/9pserve.c Thu Nov 11 19:27:02 2010 -0800 @@ -440,6 +440,8 @@ m->tx.uname = getuser();/* what

Re: [9fans] p9p factotum available for plan 9

2010-11-11 Thread Noah Evans
Are you using the tip of plan9ports? Noah On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:34 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> You can keep srv() from eating Tattach's and Tauth's without numeric >> userids with the following: > > this patch + factotum + drawterm yields this for me > on starting drawterm: > > console >

Re: [9fans] p9p factotum available for plan 9

2010-11-11 Thread Noah Evans
Nope, you're right. I got your behavior. There's a race. Noah On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:34 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> You can keep srv() from eating Tattach's and Tauth's without numeric >> userids with the following: > > this patch + factotum + drawterm yields this for me > on starting draw

Re: [9fans] p9p factotum available for plan 9

2010-11-11 Thread Noah Evans
I don't. I say go for it. Noah On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > Does anyone use 9P2000.u anymore? > Can we just remove it from the p9p tree? > > Russ > >

Re: [9fans] PUSH sources for Plan 9

2011-01-27 Thread Noah Evans
You need filters and the filters need to be set up by default in rcmain. Anthony is on top of things as usual :) It would be nice to have other users and if you are interested in exercising it ping me offlist. Noah On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Akshat Kumar wrote: > Is "broken!" the defaul

Re: [9fans] PUSH sources for Plan 9

2011-01-29 Thread Noah Evans
> ... > Xsimple (echo ) (14 10 6 ) > ... > > and yet, my IRF and ORF programs > don't receive any arguments - the argv > list is empty for both. Any ideas why > this could be? > > > Thanks, > ak > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Noah Evans wrote:

Re: [9fans] Cute plan9/inferno client?

2011-01-29 Thread Noah Evans
Can list members treat each other with greater civility? The list has been quite nice lately. Noah On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Venkatesh Srinivas wrote: > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Lawrence E. Bakst > wrote: >> >> At 4:31 PM -0500 1/28/11, Venkatesh Srinivas wrote: >> >The Tegra

Re: [9fans] RESOLVED: recoving important header file rudely

2011-02-03 Thread Noah Evans
Plan 9 is a research operating system. It also happens that many people who use it for research also use it in production. Many of the engineering decisions that went into Plan 9 were a matter of priorities. The creators of Plan 9 chose a simple, comprehensible C compiler over more complex alterna

Re: [9fans] a little frustrated

2011-03-09 Thread Noah Evans
Don't discount language barriers. Noah On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Lucio De Re wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 08:31:09AM -0500, Jacob Todd wrote: >> >> What's your point? > > Trolling? > > ++L > >

Re: [9fans] problem with rminnich's 9vx

2011-03-29 Thread Noah Evans
I've seen this behavior before, once using 9vx on a remote xsession and once when using strace on a (broken) 9vx that was compiled for 32bit on a 64bit linux. Are there any mitigating factors that could be causing your problem? Noah On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Mathieu Lonjaret wrote: > H

Re: [9fans] problem with rminnich's 9vx

2011-03-29 Thread Noah Evans
bits linux and I haven't done anything special or > set any flag when building (cd src; make; make install). Should I? > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Noah Evans wrote: >> I've seen this behavior before, once using 9vx on a remote xsession >> and once when usi

Re: [9fans] advice and advice

2011-04-07 Thread Noah Evans
No way am I looking that up at work. :o Noah On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > ha ha. i accidentally got some stuff from the attached site (for some > reason it's physically impossible to copy and paste the name). the > manual is available in japanese only. noah! the best i

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-17 Thread Noah Evans
What I find really curious about the mouse vs keyboard argument is that so few people are willing to test and quantify it. I ran into an HCI researcher a while back and posed the mouse/keyboard question to him and he just said "Fitts's law"(ie. that the mouse requires more movement and therefore it

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

2011-09-15 Thread Noah Evans
mkdir /amd64/bin/auth touch /amd64/bin/auth/.shutuphg will let you build factotum and friends. Then from your normal shell and your nix directory(I assume you have your .hg/hgrc ready for codereview, if not look at /PROCESS): hg change hg mail I'd do it myself, but I have some speculative cha

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

2011-09-15 Thread Noah Evans
don't forget to hg add amd64/bin/auth/.shutuphg Noah On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Noah Evans wrote: > mkdir /amd64/bin/auth > touch /amd64/bin/auth/.shutuphg > > will let you build factotum and friends. > > Then from your normal shell and your nix directory(I ass

Re: [9fans] booting

2011-09-15 Thread Noah Evans
No. Compile an npxeload from /sys/src/nix/w/pxeload. That should work. If it doesn't file an issue. Noah On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:27 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > does 9load do enough to boot the nix 64-bit kernel? > > - erik > >

Re: [9fans] booting

2011-09-15 Thread Noah Evans
Not yet, if you're willing to be a test subject head over to nix-dev and we can work through the steps for you and add a document explaining the process. Noah On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Christian Neukirchen wrote: > quans...@quanstro.net (erik quanstrom) writes: > >> does 9load do enough

Re: [9fans] gar nix!

2011-09-15 Thread Noah Evans
Submit these changes as code reviews. See /PROCESS if anything is unclear about how to do that. Sent from my iPad On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:19 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > well, after a bit of a time resembling /sys/src/cmd/aux/vga/adventure > i currently have my atom box running nix. unfortunatel

Re: [9fans] gar nix!

2011-09-17 Thread Noah Evans
nix-...@googlegroups.com Noah On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 9:41 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > hey noah, what's the mailing list? > > - erik > >

Re: [9fans] Fortran growing in absolute number of users

2011-12-02 Thread Noah Evans
>From PJ Plauger when asked about Ratfor: Q: What's Ratfor? PJ: To eat cheese. Noah On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > ratfor++ to the rescue! > > On 2 December 2011 17:39, ron minnich wrote: >> A guy I know at LANL just mandated C++ for all codes, no more Fortran. >> >> Th

Re: [9fans] C compiler error?

2011-12-13 Thread Noah Evans
Erik, are you looking at the tip? IIRC the webpage points to a stable version not the tip. Noah On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:36 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Tue Dec 13 07:43:08 EST 2011, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: >> New features in Go require a new function in the reflect.c module >> (src/cmd

Re: [9fans] nix at lsub

2012-04-16 Thread Noah Evans
To clarify, Nix development will be continuing at both nix-...@googlegroups.com and http://code.google.com/p/nix-os as well. The project has forked. Noah On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote: > Just to say that we moved the development mailing list. > Sorry about that

Re: [9fans] nix at lsub

2012-04-16 Thread Noah Evans
e for social reasons than technical ones. Noah On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > Noah Evans wrote: >> To clarify, Nix development will be continuing at both >> nix-...@googlegroups.com and http://code.google.com/p/nix-os as well. >> The project has fork

Re: [9fans] nix at lsub

2012-04-16 Thread Noah Evans
bute could and feel that their contributions were being considered for technical rather than political reasons. Noah On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Noah Evans wrote: > There's a bit of drama going on right now. Here's what I wrote in a > private mail to Steve Simon: > > I