Re: [9fans] what features would you like in a shell?

2009-03-31 Thread matt
I've not run into many actual problems with rc so it's pretty near perfect :> Though as Erik said - regex matches to compliment ~ matching hash maps : a['name'] = 'glenda' arithmetic - though with the 80/20 rule, I don't think the bloat is worth it I tried a write a couple of other ideas but e

Re: [9fans] what features would you like in a shell?

2009-04-01 Thread matt
If somebody wants to do such a thing (which all we agree is a bad idea) you need no new features in the shell, eg: while() firefox that doesn't permit a clean exit, this does : fn ff {firefox || ff} ; ff;

Re: [9fans] what features would you like in a shell?

2009-04-01 Thread matt
you think the idea of reloading a crashed program is not a good one? for example, what if it's a web browser? crash reload crash reload crash reload agghh make it stop btw. Windows uses this mechanism for running Explorer, as a stop gap to fixing it they just made it auto-respawn. eithe

[9fans] Someone let the domain go

2009-07-25 Thread matt
http://www.lucent-inferno.com/ er nsfw btw !

Re: [9fans] [limbo] I tried keyring, but it was the wrong number

2009-08-11 Thread matt
Charles Forsyth wrote: with a zero modulus (which suggests the key wasn't unpacked correctly). my deliberate mistake (it won't be using rsaencrypt but rsadecrypt) happened to highlight the actual problem, which is that strtosk shouldn't accept a string that looks to me (if not to it) like

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

2009-08-13 Thread matt
I always use proportional, 10 years ish now I always use tabs not spaces for indenting I don't remember it ever being a problem, certainly not one unsolved by clicking on Font

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-14 Thread matt
Charles Forsyth wrote: Hardware 24...@192khz. the human ear can't hear as high as that still, it ought to please any passing bat! Hi-fi, hi-fi, ... Personally I can't hear over 9119 hz (audio), but I might want to record 1s of 192Khz (samples I presume) and stretch them by 100x to 96

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-14 Thread matt
I have not been able to convince coworkers that filesystem namespaces are the way to go. I think they think it is too hard. *shrug* you can lead a horse... Funny, the problem I usually have is that people think file systems are *too simple*, oh, no data types other than *byte stream*

[9fans] Matrox DualHead2Go

2009-08-15 Thread matt
Hi, I don't quite know what I'm asking, I'm just fishing for responses :) I got a Matrox DualHead2Go which splits a vga signal across multiple monitors. Atm. I have it driving two screen with a duplicated image but if you supply it one of these modes : edid 2048x76...@60hz clock=113.75

Re: [9fans] laptop install woes

2009-08-15 Thread matt
This is pretty much a show-stopper for me. I guess it's time to find a new laptop with supported hardware. or a usb ethernet device

[9fans] Blogger tools

2009-08-16 Thread matt
rap around some python, and my optional shell script driven fs /n/sources/contrib/maht/blogger You'll need bichued's python which is now a contrib the day after I worked out how to install it from source but the product of that was wanting better blogging tools :> Matt

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread matt
I don't trust multifunction devices anyway. ^ "I hope that there are sour apples in every bushel." oops, wrong one "/Those days are dead and gone and the eulogy was delivered by Perl./" I did a Markov of Uriel, that was amusing but

Re: [9fans] Inserting Special Characters into Acme

2009-08-17 Thread matt
^M inserts a c/r see /lib/keyboard for the other text entries the second column is the key sequence, the first uses the modifier key (left Alt on my pc) so, for instance, æ is alt-a e alt-shift-o c is © alt-d g is † Is there some way to insert special characters into Acme text windows? Sp

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-19 Thread matt
Flogging this horse still But as I got my old Edirol UA-3d working with plan9 again (i.e. I plugged it in!) I thought I'd see what the USB audio landscape looked like, my it has changed. Has anyone tried one of these with plan9 http://www.roland.com/products/en/UA-101/ It also does MIDI whi

Re: [9fans] pipefrom fun

2009-08-21 Thread matt
why not use /mail/lib/names.local for the first example? good point, upon my brief look the answer would be, although I can contrive upon boot to use a different file, in the general case, users can't edit it. i haven't read the script, though. ; ls -l /n/sources/contrib/maht/rc/pipefr

Re: [9fans] pipefrom fun

2009-08-21 Thread matt
Russ Cox wrote: pipefrom is too late to rewrite outgoing addresses, because marshal has already written the To: I submitted a patch for marshal to do the From: part but was told I should use pipefrom instead. I'll stick a sed in the send see how that works out :> line with the local addre

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 via QEMU

2009-08-21 Thread matt
you can configure Qemu to use the host console as the guest serial console

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread matt
the best way to remove 9load is to make Plan 9 grub-bootable. I don't know much about this subject but I already boot Plan9 using grub. You mean something more specific than chainloading I presume.

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread matt
Venkatesh Srinivas wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:54 AM, hiro<23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: perhaps we should try to boot plan 9 from a linux kernel? Sounds great to me... this probably makes me a troll... I hear ron minnich did that with his lguest port. Does that make him a trol

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread matt
erik quanstrom wrote: i love it. we have complaining that fat doesn't do more than 8.3 and trolling that there's a patent liability for doing more than 8.3 within 24 hrs. thanks but I'm not trolling, not complaining just to be clear. fat itself is not patented. just some particular aspe

[9fans] walk updated, earth shatters

2009-08-28 Thread matt
/n/sources/contrib/maht/walk.c I adapted Dan's walk to add some options -t : print trailing slashes on directories -p : only print path (directory) names # -d was taken -f : only print file names If -p and -f are given, all output is supressed but the walk still happens.

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread matt
To further report the machine seems to be running after installation quite "snappily" though I seem to have messed something up and get a lot of messages about failed venti writes, due to a lack of a connection. venti=/dev/sdC0/venti or venti=#S/sdC0/venti in plan9.ini not sure which i

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread matt
Tim Newsham wrote: You could just dd or rawrite from windows, as well. iirc you need to be an administrator and can turn on raw disk access, for which you get v. scary dialog boxes warning you not to do it that was on xp, I expect newer trash will be the same / worse

Re: [9fans] walk updated, earth shatters

2009-08-28 Thread matt
erik quanstrom wrote: sounds familiar. i haven't needed an analog to your -f option yet since the most common use is grep -n pattern `{find /sys/src/|grep '\.[chys]$' I changed it to do this : chmod 550 `{walk -p} chmod -w `{walk -f}

Re: [9fans] scheme plan 9

2009-09-02 Thread matt
number of schemes > 4 http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Contrib_index/ maybe one is what you are looking for there is also a gsoc project, search 9fans for more details http://9fans.net/archive/ xiangyu wrote: HI,everyone: Has anyone ported scheme into plan 9 ? or is there som

Re: [9fans] Interested in improving networking in Plan 9

2009-09-03 Thread matt
Oh I don't know Shoehorning a DB interface into a FS interface doesn't feel right but stranger things have happened. I've done it a few ways. echo commit > /n/db/0/ctl is kind of where one ends up for my limbo postgres module I never got round to the fs part. i just wrap the sql bits

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

2009-09-04 Thread matt
I concur with Erik, I specced out a 20tb server earlier this year, matching the throughputs hits you in the wallet. I'm amazed they are using pci-e 1x , it's kind of naive see what the guy from sun says http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/5899-Some-perspective-to-this-DIY-storage-server-mention

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-04 Thread matt
I could be wrong, but I feel like you're not really interested in entertaining that this idea could be useful, but more interested in shooting it down. That's fine, people do that all the time. People are *constantly* saying Plan 9 is a huge waste of time too. And if you count the number

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

2009-09-08 Thread matt
Is there anything I can do to get around this or a possible fix to test? run that portion of the installer manually, and don't perform the test, they are only shell scripts if you have a plan9 already, you can roll your own installer my efforts documented here http://maht0x0r.blogspot.co

Re: [9fans] awk help; not plan9 matter

2009-09-17 Thread matt
sed 's/^([^ ]+ +)([^ ]+)/\1HELL/' Hello, simple task. I want to change the 2nd field on each line of a file, but preserve the spacing of the lines. If I do awk '{$2="hell"; print}' file the field gets changed, but all the spacing of the lines is gone; i.e. any space is now just ' ' like this:

Re: [9fans] awk help; not plan9 matter

2009-09-17 Thread matt
awk '{a=$2; sub(a, "hell"); print}' file also works if it contains no regex special chars this seems to do the trick otherwise awk ' { p=substr($0, index($0, " ")); split(p, a, "[^ ]"); sub(/ +[^ ]+/, "", p); print $1 a[1] "hell" p} ' Rudolf Sykora wrote: Hello, simple task. I want to

Re: [9fans] fun quote

2009-09-17 Thread matt
look who's trolling now :) i don't know how ingo managed to put his finger on so many reasons i enjoy plan 9 by counterexample. Linux is a 18+ years old kernel, there's not that many easy projects left in it anymore :-/ Core kernel features that look basic and which are not in Linux yet often t

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

2009-09-22 Thread matt
storage vendors have a credibility problem. i think the big storage vendors, as referenced in the op, sell you on many things you don't need for much more than one has to spend. I went to a product demo from http://www.isilon.com/ They make a filesystem that spans multiple machines. They

[9fans] more on the history of recursion

2009-09-25 Thread matt
http://www.paulgraham.com/mcilroy.html

Re: [9fans] bluetooth

2009-09-25 Thread matt
you could just set the mtime to the time of the last successful operation on that device What do you mean exactly by "sees"? ... all devices that are listening on inquiry scan channels and respond to inquiry requests. It looks like your requirement might be satisfied by one or th

Re: [9fans] 9vx is really excellent, link it on the bell-labs pages?

2009-09-30 Thread matt
I've had "/bin/rc: not found" twice from Qemu with clean shutdowns I run it in with -snapshot now and do manual commits (or rather, I did before I went to back to dedicated hardware) My drawterm also pops out of existence sometimes when I'm using Acme. If I restart it and open the same file, t

Re: [9fans] 9vx is really excellent, link it on the bell-labs pages?

2009-09-30 Thread matt
I've had "/bin/rc: not found" twice from Qemu with clean shutdowns I've also *just* had the disk go bad during the install to a qcow2 disk, at 90%+ too :( (or at least I think it went bad, I had lots of /n/newfs not found based errors) I started over with a raw disk instead

Re: [9fans] handling output

2009-10-01 Thread matt
Tee part of the POSIX standard http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/tee.html hugo rivera wrote: Great, thanks. Looks like plan 9 guys have thought about everything useful ☺ (and that I didn't do my homework). 2009/10/1, roger peppe : 2009/10/1 hugo rivera : I'v

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-05 Thread matt
sqweek wrote: fn apply { cmd=$1 shift while(! test $1 = :) { cmd=($cmd $1) shift } for(i in $*) $cmd <$i } # eg: apply grep foo : *.c that's the beauty of the rc shell, you can define what you like fn cat { if(~ $#* 0) /bin/cat /dev/null if not {

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-06 Thread matt
You can build this whole dream using plan9 and show the world, you don't have to rewrite any of the utilities, just shape the calling convention to your liking. I bet you could even find the pattern and wrap the whole lot in a meta script, maybe even utilise an FS fn mkdir { if(! ~ $#* 0)

Re: [9fans] android hacking?

2009-10-08 Thread matt
Tim Newsham wrote: Anyone playing with android phones? I have a G1 dev but I've not written a single line of code for it You didn't mention the camera, I try not to ! What would be amazing would be attaching it via USB and importing its /net (or some other way of turning it into a 3G modem

Re: [9fans] android hacking?

2009-10-08 Thread matt
hiro wrote: What would be amazing would be attaching it via USB and importing its /net (or some other way of turning it into a 3G modem for plan9) Is there more about it than compiling inferno and simply exporting that device? I'm sure that would be great, drop me an email when it's

Re: [9fans] android hacking?

2009-10-08 Thread matt
Anthony Sorace wrote: as i understand it, "proper" android stuff is meant to be in their java flavor. you can load C programs, http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/06/introducing-android-scripting.html http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/android-barcode-scanner/ Just as a proof-of-concept

Re: [9fans] android hacking?

2009-10-09 Thread matt
hiro wrote: Is the usb port speaking the standard usb storage language? yes, to the SD card, no idea if you can do anything else with it

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-19 Thread matt
The misinterpretation of Moore's Law is to blame here, of course: Moore is a smart guy and he was talking about transistor density, but pop culture made is sound like he was talking speed up. For some time the two were in lock-step. Not anymore. I ran the numbers the other day based on sped

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-19 Thread matt
erik quanstrom wrote: you motivated me to find my copy of _high speed semiconductor devices_, s.m. sze, ed., 1990. which motivated me to dig out the post I made elsewhere : "Moore's law doesn't say anything about speed or power. It says manufacturing costs will lower from technological i

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-19 Thread matt
Sam Watkins wrote: I calculated roughly that encoding a 2-hour video could be parallelized by a factor of perhaps 20 trillion, using pipelining and divide-and-conquer, with a longest path length of 1 operations in series. Such a system running at 1Ghz could encode a single 2-hour video in 1

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-19 Thread matt
Eris Discordia wrote: "Moore's law doesn't say anything about speed or power. But why'd you assume "people in the wrong" (w.r.t. their understanding of Moore's law) would measure "speed" in gigahertz rather than MIPS or FLOPS? because that's what the discussion I was having was about

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-19 Thread matt
this is quite an astounding thread. you brought up clock speed doubling and now refute yourself. i just noted that 48ghz is not possible with silicon non-quantium effect tech. - erik I think I've been misunderstood, I wasn't asserting the clock speed increase in the first place, I was ho

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-28 Thread matt
Sorry to kick this rotting horse but I just got back You've got to feed in 2 hours of source material - 820Gb per stream, how? I suppose some sort of parallel bus of wires or optic fibres. we call that "hand waving" If I have massively parallel processing I would want massively p

[9fans] I made it home

2009-10-28 Thread matt
Hi, I've been awake 40 hours or so now but I'm not hallucinating enough for my liking just yet but at leas the coffee tastes good here! IWP9 was fab, a big thank you to everyone involved, attending, watching and those disappointed not to be there. Sorry to those we managed to lose on Saturday,

Re: [9fans] [9ans] Question about network protocols

2009-10-29 Thread matt
ty ty wrote: i haven't found any with grep I find this quite good for browsing the source in a web browser http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/?v=PLAN9 ipattach is referenced here http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/ident?v=PLAN9;i=ipattach

Re: [9fans] hoc's behaviour, unary operators

2009-10-30 Thread matt
i'll leave as an excersize why k&r thought that making -- and ++ tokens was worth while. did DEC make them do it so they could issue trademark infringement lawsuits for copying the instruction mnemonic?

Re: [9fans] dtrace for plan 9

2009-11-01 Thread matt
/me imagines it goes like this : hmm, I'm always writing the similar debugging code for the kernel, I know I'll write a bit of custom code. ... some time later hmm, I'm always writing the similar post processing scripts, I know I'll add a callback before each print

Re: [9fans] instructions to use .eps in troff wanted

2009-11-23 Thread matt
Rudolf Sykora wrote: Hello, is there any good place where I could read how to embed some pictures into a troff document? Preferably a way that works in plan9, too... I can't find much about it anywhere. What do you use? Thanks Ruda /n/sources/contrib/maht/ppm2eps/

Re: [9fans] Examples of rc scripts

2009-11-23 Thread matt
Maurí­cio CA wrote: Hi, all, I found 'werc' in a wikipedia link, and used it as a source for examples of how to use rc. Are there other places where I can found rc scripts, as well as other scripts for plan9 tools? (By the way, do you know how can I attribute a here document to a variable?) T

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-26 Thread matt
to do this. Matt

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-11-26 Thread matt
/n/sources/contrib/maht/snapscan.iso if you didn't work out the typo

Re: [9fans] 9p resource sharing [was: Scanners]

2009-11-26 Thread matt
erik quanstrom wrote: On Thu Nov 26 15:36:39 EST 2009, news...@lava.net wrote: or the cannonical example, a hard drive. I intentionally avoided this one because two things that modern OSs do know how to share (at least a little) are: - filesystems - printers it is pretty h

Re: [9fans] 9p resource sharing [was: Scanners]

2009-11-27 Thread matt
i wasn't talking about aoe. but since you are, what exactly is difficult about the plan 9 aoe driver? - erik the installer, or was last time I looked, I did try to make one but got so far and decided on a "better way" which is on my large pile of todo. I made a "install to this drive" sc

Re: [9fans] ideas for helpful system io functions

2009-12-08 Thread matt
That's not what I meant by joining two fds. back seat coding, nice

Re: [9fans] What do you use plan 9 for?

2009-12-14 Thread matt
chutsu wrote: So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is used for? I mean I know its a hobbyst sort of OS, but what can you do with it though? Can you browse the internet? Watch videos? Thanks Chris Your pre-conceptions are erroneous. http://9fans.net/ read the man pages & pa

Re: [9fans] faces

2010-01-07 Thread matt
You can't prove harmlessness in people, hence the joyful collective outcry of "all men are potential rapists". It's the halting problem of human interaction Brian! Your computer thinks your face is harmful! The following attachment had content that we can't prove to be harmless.

Re: [9fans] Just one piece o' help.

2010-01-12 Thread matt
burning CD/DVD Plan 9 has a very elegant approach to burning CDs. See cdfs(4) and mk9660(8) for the details. I wrote a wee helper for burning .iso files http://plan9/bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/maht/rc/iso2cd /n/sources/contrib/maht/rc/iso2cd

Re: [9fans] Hardware for Plan9

2010-01-13 Thread matt
I'm running the traditional Ken FS, sans Erik's mods. "sans" is French for "without" hence serif & sans-serif, is that what you meant ?

[9fans] Recovering venti arenas using Qemu

2010-01-13 Thread matt
OU to everyone concerned :) matt if only the burst pipe & broken central heating were so easy to fix!

Re: [9fans] In case anyone worries about block hash collision in venti

2010-02-07 Thread matt
not only has someone got to find a collision during a tiny timeframe, they also have to fit it in 8k

Re: [9fans] pineview atom

2010-02-18 Thread matt
it supports 4gb of memory. of non-ECC memory, so nice terminal, bad server "the probability of having at least one bit error in 4 gigabyes of memory at sea level on planet Earth in 72 hours is over 95%." http://lambda-diode.com/opinion/ecc-memory

Re: [9fans] problem using a vera font in rio

2010-02-26 Thread matt
i don't know. it's not libfreetype. fontsrv asks the OS X graphics code to render each glyph into a box and then concatenates the boxes to make the subfont. all the text was noticeably lighter (more grey) than in your screen shot when i put them side by side. this is due to apple's algo

[9fans] % $stem & $target in mk

2008-05-29 Thread matt
Hi, crazily I've been using mk to build a website (trying to mimic SSI but pre-request) and I've run into a "shortcoming" with mk this is something like my mkfile : ---snip--- PAGES = public_html/index.html public_html/news.html all:V: $

Re: [9fans] % $stem & $target in mk

2008-05-29 Thread matt
factoum it uses tee for logging to testlog in the current dir so watch out for that :) matt make a script, called mkrules: #!/bin/rc for(i in src/*.html) cpp -M $i | sed 's;^src;public; s;\$O:;:;' include its output: <|mkrules russ

Re: [9fans] Goosh

2008-06-04 Thread matt
I'm astonished and amazed that it made the front page of /. and top 10 on Reddit. Plan 9, where astonishing things for Lunix users are the everyday. http://9fans.net/archive/2002/11/362 (it's in sources now as /n/sources/contrib/maht/goofs.iso) Sorry for wasting a bit of bandwidth, but I'm a

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread matt
Back in March people were trying the EEEPC with slight progress - did anyone get any joy there ? I have a T23 which is a good Plan 9 laptop with Orinoco PCMCIA WiFi, though I've not tried the AC97 They are under 200 euros on ebay with 512Mb & 80Gb 1024x768 screen 3 buttons and a nipple not

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-10 Thread matt
3 buttons and a nipple not a touchpad no Windows key :) These are concrete assets. I know, that's why I reported them. Chording with a touchpad is something you could show at a circus. I'm running low on three button mouses too :(

Re: [9fans] I/O load crashes Qemu

2008-06-17 Thread matt
isos with it which included plan9.iso & plan9.iso.bz2 in the iso. I've used it for fancy networking tricks with vde_switch and tap0. I use qcow images and I think they are sparse files. I have borked the file system with it, though it was my own fault. matt

Re: [9fans] OSX Drawterm hangs on close

2008-06-24 Thread matt
Drawterm everywhere needs to die and be replaced with inferno. The duplication of bug fixes and efforts is pointless. I thought we had to replace Inferno with Acme-Sac, I wish you'd make up your mind.

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-04 Thread matt
Robert William Fuller wrote: erik quanstrom wrote: these are tetonic forces. there's nothing directly As a geologist, I can't let this one slip (pun intended.) It's tectonic. He might have meant Teutonic

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-04 Thread matt
As a geologist, I can't let this one slip (pun intended.) It's tectonic. Being of german ancestry, I can't let it slip either.. Maybe Eric meant Teutonic? Either would fit, and neither requries UTF-8 :-) Dammnit, always wait until you've read the unread

Re: [9fans] acme scrollbar

2008-07-04 Thread matt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dislike this idea. I think for most people, most of the time, the lines acme's working with will fit well within the width of a window. Yeah, I bet most of us have run into longer lines at times, but the interface is optimized for the common case. I wouldn't like to see

Re: [9fans] why not Lvx for Plan 9?

2008-07-10 Thread matt
Skip Tavakkolian wrote: vxlinux under plan9 will be useful, but only to us 9fans. Isn't that good enough reason? Russ Cox Linux vx for Plan 9 would help people who prefer to use Linux but must use Plan 9. I am sure such people exist, but I feel no sympathy toward them. ;-) I don't as

[9fans] Anatomy of a vblade image

2008-07-11 Thread matt
an empty vlbade image for serving with the above vblade ? Save me making one :) Matt

Re: [9fans] Anatomy of a vblade image

2008-07-13 Thread matt
however you can use the -i switch to initialize a blank file. (you're free to use a raw disk or partition, too.) - erik or say "damn, where did my partition table go !" I can't remember if I lost any work :) strings /dev/sdC0/plan9 will let me know eventually ! note to self, be more car

Re: [9fans] Anatomy of a vblade image

2008-07-13 Thread matt
erik quanstrom wrote: I'm serving drives to WinXP64 via AOE with http://winaoe.org/ I've had a few blue screens but I think they have been caused by the server side serving bad data. what do you mean by "server side"? My dodgy programming :> I'm hacking around in vblade.c Sorry, I se

Re: [9fans] Anatomy of a vblade image

2008-07-15 Thread matt
(In the opposite style to usual, this was meant to go to the list, not private :) i didn't want to sound over-confident. but vblade is very simple; i don't see how it could have data-loosing bugs. I can't even remember how I made it blue-screen but I managed it a couple of times. I think o

Re: [9fans] 8 cores

2008-07-23 Thread matt
ks or does that mean it's in progress ? I see from the mkfile some stuff is commented out so I guess the latter. I don't have any SGIs (unless you count 1 ps/2 keyboard). A readme in the folder would be a good idea :) matt

Re: [9fans] qemu: somebody give bellard a canonical image?

2008-07-28 Thread matt
Bakul Shah wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:32:22 PDT "ron minnich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: so it can go here: http://bellard.org/qemu/download.html might as well make it available .. Not sure why qemu/download.html shows so few bootable images. Another alternative is oszoo.org. See

Re: [9fans] qemu: somebody give bellard a canonical image?

2008-07-28 Thread matt
thanks man. I did not expect this to turn into another debate. I just did not have the cycles to do it just now. It will be nice to see plan 9 up there at qemu.org ron Just so happens I was doing an install on to a 1Gb CF today. I haven't done any QEMU specific tweaking for it.

Re: [9fans] Bizarre freeze

2008-08-07 Thread matt
> Could it be that some disks don't work with DMA on? Not all compact flash supports DMA

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-20 Thread matt
That stack has been implemented in vim. There're nearly 500 different syntax matching and highlighting schemes for vim, and there's a simple language for writing your own schemes. Why not use vi? To paraphrase Tesla : If Mr. Edison thought a bit more, he wouldn't have to sweat so much.

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-20 Thread matt
What's the Plan 9 way of solving that? Trusting the user at the terminal? yes, no other things required, you fail (as per usual)

Re: [9fans] Any Brits going to iwp9? ...

2008-08-27 Thread matt
yes, and "i must sort that out" -Steve Like wise with the "must sort that out" part I plan to go via train nottingham - london - paris - italy - greece (including a couple of ferries) Last time I tried to sort it the timetables for Oct. weren't complete but it's time to look again

Re: [9fans] Any Brits going to iwp9? ...

2008-08-27 Thread matt
I plan to go via train nottingham - london - paris - italy - greece (including a couple of ferries) Last time I tried to sort it the timetables for Oct. weren't complete but it's time to look again now naturally, 5 mins after I sent this I got told about a feature film were shooting up

Re: [9fans] Where to find plan9

2008-09-09 Thread matt
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ says it doesn't even exist ! though there is an A record in my DNS for it 9fans.net is unreachable from Riyadh.. but then again a lot of places are unreacable from Riyadh. :( John On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Lorenzo Fernando Biven

Re: [9fans] bug in rio: unhiding deleted windows

2008-10-10 Thread matt
i'm not sure why you can't have a dedicated fileserver. i put mine original fs together for $12.95. this fs is still running, i just wanted to put together a diskless fs. Electricity is 15p per KwHour round here 300w echo 'scale=3; 0.15 * 0.3 * 25 * 365' | bc 410.625 pounds per year 60

Re: [9fans] Are there any blind users of Plan 9?

2008-10-23 Thread matt
why not just ssh into plan9 and use that ? btw. no IWP for me :( bugger bugger bollocks

Re: [9fans] Query on Venti access

2008-10-27 Thread matt
The most comprehensive man pages are on swtch.com Venti uses a simple protocol, the C library is described here : http://swtch.com/plan9port/man/man3/venti.html And the source here : http://swtch.com/usr/local/plan9/src/libventi/ this is the intro http://swtch.com/plan9port/man/man7/venti.h

[9fans] tracing & bricking the e1000e on Linux

2008-10-27 Thread matt
Sorry if I got this wrong but iirc there was a discussion re. tracing the kernel ftrace on Linux got it very wrong and was bricking the Intel e1000e's http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/304105/d32d3f1f921d9b73/ Loadable modules part of the problem

Re: [9fans] @{cd ...} breaks completion with ctrl-f/ins; help needed

2008-10-28 Thread matt
Rudolf Sykora wrote: > I really can't live without the completion function... how come? I've *never* used it

Re: [9fans] photos of iwp9

2008-11-18 Thread matt
sqweek wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Kernel Panic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/cinap_lenrek/photos/iwp9.2008/dscn0195.jpg I have this sudden impulse to start using abaco... -sqweek mothra is your friend :>

Re: [9fans] Another observation

2008-11-19 Thread matt
I don't have the slightest clue what you mean, and tbh. I'm not that interested ;)

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