Re: [9fans] Definitinon list of the # filesystems

2021-01-21 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 23:51:24 -0700, Don Bailey wrote: don.bailey> Grep the source code not the man pages :> Well, yes, but I was hoping for something a little less tedious than wading through 137,124 hits for `#'. Removing `#include' admittedly brings that down to 109,636, but that's still a bit

[9fans] authoritative source for u9fs?

2021-01-22 Thread Dworkin Muller
My initial installation/playing with Plan 9 was, surprisingly enough, using the basic Plan 9 ISO from 9p.io. That image (and the resulting installed system's /sys/src) has a handful of useful interoperability bits to run on Unix, including u9fs. Now I've working with 9front, which is being less f

Re: [9fans] authoritative source for u9fs?

2021-01-22 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 03:20:03 -0500, Fazlul Shahriar wrote: fshahriar> https://bitbucket.org/plan9-from-bell-labs/u9fs/src/master/ That looks much more believable than the others. Thank you very much for the pointer. Dworkin -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: ht

Re: [9fans] authoritative source for u9fs?

2021-01-24 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:10:18 +0200, Lucio De Re wrote: lucio.dere> On 1/25/21, Charles Forsyth wrote: lucio.dere> > I've just accepted an important pull request to it that I missed, until I lucio.dere> > [...] lucio.dere> Under NetBSD 9.1, I needed to add -D_NETBSD_SOURCE to get rid of lucio.der

[9fans] getting 9front ssh to use RSA key?

2021-01-24 Thread Dworkin Muller
If I have PasswordAuthentication enabled on a remote host (tested on MacOS and FreeBSD so far), I can log in to them without any problem. However, if I have passwords disabled, but have an RSA key on the Plan 9 host and the corresponding pub key in authorized_keys on those remote hosts, I'm failing

Re: [9fans] getting 9front ssh to use RSA key?

2021-01-24 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 22:33:59 -0800, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: ori> Quoth Dworkin Muller : ori> > If I have PasswordAuthentication enabled on a remote host (tested on ori> > MacOS and FreeBSD so far), I can log in to them without any problem. ori> > However, if I have passwor

Re: [9fans] getting 9front ssh to use RSA key?

2021-01-25 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:14:01 +, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: 9fans> There's a different example in the ssh2(1) man page, which 9fans> is what works for me. Note the use of rsa2ssh2 instead of 9fans> auth/rsa2ssh. Hmm. This may be part of my confusion. There is nothing with ``ss

Re: [9fans] getting 9front ssh to use RSA key?

2021-01-25 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:52:42 -0800, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: ori> First off, sanity check: are you running ssh in the same ori> namespace as the factotum? ori> ori> Are you using a drawterm factotum, or are you using one ori> started from within your session? ori> ori> you redacted a lot of the

Re: [9fans] getting 9front ssh to use RSA key?

2021-01-25 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 12:24:35 +1030, Alex Musolino wrote: alex> You're missing the 'role=client' tuple. You are exactly correct. Looks like rsa(8) has a bug in its example for generating and installing a fresh key for a remote Unix system, in that it says to use: auth/rsagen -t 'service=ssh'

Re: [9fans] getting 9front ssh to use RSA key?

2021-01-25 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 13:19:07 +1030, Alex Musolino wrote: alex> I'm confused. You're already using ssh to send the new key across. alex> How do you know this new key is actually working? It's probably just alex> using the same authentication mechanism (password?) that allowed the alex> first invo

Re: [9fans] getting 9front ssh to use RSA key?

2021-01-25 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:08:43 -0800, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: ori> Now, I'm confused. The example just works for me -- and ori> I use ssh to get into my linux and openbsd machines on ori> a daily basis. ori> ori> I also just spun up a FreeBSD 12.1 vm on vultr to test, ori> and it just worked out

[9fans] copy/snarf/paste under VMware Fusion

2021-02-07 Thread Dworkin Muller
Stupid question of the hour I'm running Plan 9 (plan9-from-bell-labs-u9fs-9639caf1174b.tar.gz) and 9front (9front-8013.d9e940a768d1.amd64.iso) under VMware Fusion 8.5.10. On the former, I can copy on the Mac and paste into Plan 9, and the reverse (snarf on Plan 9, paste on Mac). However, I c

[9fans] Alternative to fine-grained mouse usage?

2021-06-30 Thread Dworkin Muller
I have physical issues with trying to perform fine-grained mouse operations (uncontrollable small hand tremors). The net effect is that anything more much specific than window selection is difficult and takes several seconds - pretty much the antithesis of the study results that showed that editin

Re: [9fans] Alternative to fine-grained mouse usage?

2021-07-03 Thread Dworkin Muller
Thanks folks for all the suggestions and pointers. Now it's just a small matter of putting it all into practice ;-) Dworkin -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T716c5aa0e2aa8a27-Me11ccf659e0e88c10119b85f Delivery options: ht

Re: [9fans] Alternative to fine-grained mouse usage?

2021-07-03 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Sat, 03 Jul 2021 22:33:07 +0100, "Ethan Gardener" wrote: eekee57> To be honest, it helps that the editor's source code is only eekee57> about 2.5KB. ;) So you're using the Forth environment as your editor, not just using Forth to drive sam or acme? Dworkin --

Re: [9fans] Alternative to fine-grained mouse usage?

2021-07-11 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Tue, 06 Jul 2021 20:14:03 -0700, "Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)" wrote: lyndon> Have you thought about lyndon> mounting a server on top of the mouse device that reads the raw lyndon> positioning data and passes up a running average of the last n lyndon> positions? Basically, interpose a lo

Re: [9fans] plan 9 for linux users

2025-02-21 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:21:45 +, Stuart Morrow wrote: morrow.stuart> How is it different from flags? Well, typically flags are specific to some command, and are documented somewhere. Also, these get used as the first element in a path, and are (or seem to be) used mostly in contexts where yo

Re: [9fans] plan 9 for linux users

2025-02-20 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 09:09:31 -0800, ron minnich wrote: rminnich> Based on the response to my note re: things that act like strace, I'm going rminnich> to start accumulating a "plan 9 for linux users" doc. It helps to have a rminnich> guide it seems. Something that would be really helpful would

Re: [9fans] plan 9 for linux users

2025-02-21 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 15:03:11 -0600, Jacob Moody wrote: moody> This is not quite the case though, /dev/drivers gives you a mapping of the moody> single character names to their "full" names. This name then corresponds to moody> their entry within section 3 of the manual pages. Where you'll find

Re: [9fans] plan 9 for linux users

2025-02-21 Thread Dworkin Muller
skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: : This topic was brought up a few years ago and some helpful suggestions : were made: You may note that I'm the one that brought it up that time, too ``Helpful'' is kind of relative. They're great once you have a functional enough system to be able to look t

Re: [9fans] plan 9 for linux users

2025-02-22 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 22:45:54 -0600, Jacob Moody wrote: moody> What do you mean everything uses these # names? moody> Can you provide some context on what parts of the terminal installation moody> process you felt like required knowledge of sharp paths? moody> What guides are you referring to? I v

Re: [9fans] Latest sign of the apocalypse

2025-06-02 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 05:44:45 +0200, Lucio De Re wrote: lucio.dere> lucio.dere> On 2025/06/01 23:24, Brian L. Stuart wrote: lucio.dere> > [ ... ] lucio.dere> > it's no longer a joke that it's time to dust off the PDP-11s lucio.dere> > and 68000s and stay there. lucio.dere> lucio.dere> I fear these

Re: [9fans] Latest sign of the apocalypse

2025-06-02 Thread Dworkin Muller
[resend, corrected address] On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 05:44:45 +0200, Lucio De Re wrote: lucio.dere> lucio.dere> On 2025/06/01 23:24, Brian L. Stuart wrote: lucio.dere> > [ ... ] lucio.dere> > it's no longer a joke that it's time to dust off the PDP-11s lucio.dere> > and 68000s and stay there. lucio.de

[9fans] 9front hardware list

2025-06-05 Thread Dworkin Muller
This is probably the wrong place for this, but I'm trying to understand why 9front's FQA supported hardware list (specifically, desktop and laptop systems) points to a for-sale list of a Lenovo ThinkPad, a Sun Ultra 5, and a bunch of keyboards. https://fqa.9front.org/fqa3.html#3.2.5 -> http://plan

Re: [9fans] 9front hardware list

2025-06-06 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 22:46:16 -0400, s...@stanleylieber.com wrote: sl> 2.) the specific url points to a top-level directory containing that sl> same comprehensive list. look at the menu links on the left side of sl> the page. sl> sl> 3.) i sometimes sell hardware. i put a short list of stuff in t

Re: [9fans] Update on my IWP9 paper

2025-07-20 Thread Dworkin Muller
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 09:57:09 +, "Brian L. Stuart via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: 9fans> So why did it seem to work so much better with the kernel 9fans> driver? You may remember that the kernel driver couldn't 9fans> use the DMA controller, so it wrote the data with programmed 9fans> I/O.