Boot process halts almost from the start at message:
Verifying DMI Pool Data
Boot from CD: PBSR...EI
Then nothing! Keyboard not hung. Press any key and it reboots.
This is on an amd athlon xp 2000+ / 1G RAM / 2nd Master = CD-RW, ATA 33
Ideas / clues please. TIA ..
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nt install docs different? TIA
BTW - Installing Plan9 is a great project for me right now. -37C
here in western Canada. :O
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a clue?
Why does it not exist I'm wondering?
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nking that the filesystem _was_ on my CD. I want to
install Plan9 onto one of my HDDs.
> 9front install docs are here:
> http://fqa.9front.org/fqa4.html
Ok thx ...
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Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> Which ISO did you use?
9front-8593.acc504c319a4b4188479cfa602e40cb6851c0528.386.iso
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:01:56 +0100
Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> Which ISO did you use?
Hold the phone! Stop the presses!
I'm in! Joy!!
Accepted the defaults once again after doing a Ctrl-D and BOOM!
I've got a term% window
I've got a "cirno" window.
;-D
tmanager installed.
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ernet or docs for) that too in case you want to continue
> booting through grub.
Got it!
BTW - rebooted and logged in as adm. Got an error msg saying that
it couldn't find something or other ../adm.
How do I log out? ^D like Linux/BSD?
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to setup the correct timezone:
log in as user:adm
then
cp /adm/timezone/CET to /adm/timezone/local
etc etc
Am RTFM!!! LOL
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:23:49 -0500
o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
> Quoth Duke Normandin :
> > log in as user:adm
>
> expanding that a bit: log in as a
> user in the 'adm' group.
OK - I'm going to take a time-out and go read about how to use this
thing! I see
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 09:28:52 -0800
Eli Cohen wrote:
> if you're not accustomed to plan 9
Worst than that! I don't know squat about it. Just manage to
install it 10 minutes ago. I know Unix though and that's where I'm
getting hung up.
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"Frank D. Engel, Jr." wrote:
> Partially to answer an earlier question and partially to
> emphasize just how different Plan 9 is: you "log out" by
> rebooting.
You're kidding right? So it's a single-user/multi-tasking O
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 10:11:38 -0800
Eli Cohen wrote:
> yes, but it also has very good networking capabilities
networking is good! +1
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sking. You were meant to
> shutdown the terminal session, not the server.
Got it!
Is there a not-too-pedantic user manual kicking about? I
mean this like: "Please tell me what time it is; NOT how to make a
watch". :) For the time being anyway. I'm a hacker back as far as
1981. Now I of
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 20:01:17 +0100
hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> manuals are always pedantic.
maybe you haven't lived long enough to have stumbled on the good
ones. :)
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At the onset, show them how to tell time - NOT how to make a watch!
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hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> my point was that if they weren't pedantic they wouldn't be any
> good
Here's MY point:
https://youtu.be/SoGLU1l7LwY
Short and sweet and to the point. Gimme more ... :)
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 15:16:06 -0800
Bakul Shah wrote:
> You may find
> https://pspodcasting.net/dan/blog/2019/plan9_desktop.html useful.
I do - thanks!
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Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> 9front wiki has some too, for example:
> http://wiki.9front.org/unix2plan9
Excellent! Just what I needed to get started with the tinkering.
Þakka þér fyrir / tack ...
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BTW, for Plan 9 noob enlightenment, HN ran this article today:
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> On Jan 18, 2022, at 3:19 PM, vic.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022, at 03:54, Antonio Barrones wrote:
> [snip]
>
>> On 1/24/22, Alexandr Babic wrote:
>>
>> hello.
>>
>> please don't put any politics here, everyone has own political opinion, but
>> discuss it elsewhere.
>> sub-word "trans" should be used only inside "transpiler" word when talking
>> about computers :-) :-)
>>
>> thanx, a.b.
I agree. T
.
> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:44 AM, Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir
> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:38 PM Duke Normandin wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/22, Alexandr Babic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hello.
>>>>
>>>> please don't p
Wondering the same thing! Good to know - thx.
> On Jan 24, 2022, at 10:01 AM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote:
>
> sdvirtio handles both block and scsi type devices.
>
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> On Jan 24, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 05:38:19AM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
ary development language for Plan9? C? What languages
have been ported to Plan9?
Where are the best docs? TIA...
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Jacob Todd wrote:
> On Jan 13, 2011 9:32 AM, "Duke Normandin" wrote:
> >
> > Hello 9fans ...
> >
> > I'm _totally_ new to Plan9! Two days ago I had never heard of
> > it. Yesterday I DLed the LiveCD - now I want to know more
ork.
It works. I've had Plan9 up and running from the Live CD.
> Failing the CD path, you can download 9vx and try the full Plan 9
> environment hosted on your normal OS.
That's great! I have "Native Oberon for Linux" running the very same
way. Best of both worlds - at a bit of a price though. :) Thanks for
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blems! No OS install tried to mess with another partition. So,
are you being overly cautious here, or is there a real danger that
Plan9 has a run-away?
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seen Plan 9 do this, but better safe than sorry...
>
> i've never seen this myself, but i recall this discussion
>
> http://9fans.net/archive/?q=partition+overwritten
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@Gorka Guardiola
@Tassilo Philipp
Thanks for the warnings, and friendly advice :)
I think I'll just use a bare 2nd HDD on the same machine, or a junker
box kicking around.
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Let me
do some reading of the recommended docs above. I'm sure they will go a
long way in clueing me in. :) Remember, I've _never_ , EVER, messed
with Plan9. So, it's all new to me.
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magic/man2html/8/plan9.ini), boot(8)
> (http://lsub.org/magic/man2html/8/boot) and booting(8)
> (http://lsub.org/magic/man2html/8/booting) for details, etc..
Thanks for all the homework! :))
Much appreciated ...
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I've successfully used this setup for
> experimenting/testing and for demos.
Sounds like _a lot_ of fooling around! I've set up numerous *nix LANs
before, but don't have one at the moment. How much memory would a
machine need to set up all those VMs?
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, David Leimbach wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Duke Normandin wrote:
>
> > Just read:
> >
> > http://lsub.org/magic/man2html/1/0intro
> >
> > [quote]
> > Plan 9 is a distributed computing environment assembled from sepa
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Duke Normandin wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> >
> >> if the intent is to get a full understanding of what an operational
> >> Plan 9 environment is lik
that! with FreeBSD. :)
> Good luck; Plan 9 is a very fun system.
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nal from the CD! But I
wouldn't waste a 30G BSD partition on that. Which is where I was going
to put Plan 9. I might just wipe the 4G Native Oberon partition, and
put the Plan 9 terminal there. Although this box that I use
multi-boots, why bother installing Plan 9 as a terminal on a dedicated
partition, when I can connect from Linux using `drawterm' or `9vx'.
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[snip]
> > I just checked - it's a 166Mhz P-I with 98M RAM and 4.5G HDD. Made
> > a good dedicated mail server. May not have enough gonads for a
> > Plan 9 server though. >
>
> I wouldn't dismiss it entirely. My old Plan9 CPU/auth/file server
> at home had a very similar configuration.
Then I'll have to give it a shot. Then go looking for some more recent
hardware! Here we go again ... :D
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th a stand-alone machine. However, some parts of the system make
> a lot more sense when you experience them in a networked
> environment. Auth is a good example of this.
I see your point - because Plan 9 was after all, built as a
distributed system. I'll give it a shot on that P-I mentioned in
another post.
> But whichever path(s) you take, I hope you'll find Plan9 is a great
> system, just as we do.
I'm in trouble already ...
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/TestDisk
So have I! Thanks for the link. have you tried "gparted"? I have it as
a LiveCD. Hose a partition - no probs. Boot the CD; fix it; go for
lunch. :) I'm going to DL TestDisk anyway - you never know!
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nd make sure your nic is supported.
RTL1839 I think. I'm almost sure that it's supported.
All sounds very encouraging. Addio ...
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote:
> At Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:37:52 -0700 (MST),
> Duke Normandin wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote:
> >
> > > I think you mentioned in another message that you have a headless box
> > > available; I
our network. I'd also
> start by installing from the CD as a stand-alone machine.
> After you know your way around some, you can try to convert
> it to a combined CPU/auth/file server and then look into
> how you connect to it from other machines.
Sounds like a plan -- pun intended! Much obliged!
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote:
> On 1/13/2011 7:42 PM, Duke Normandin wrote:
>
> > What is Venti again?
>
> Venti is the archival storage for Plan 9. Basically, new files and
> changes to files get written to the Fossil file system. If Venti exists,
> those chan
hink there's a fundamental misunderstanding here. a plan 9
> file server serves a *common* set of files. so loosely speaking,
> storage requirements scale with users, and not with the number
> of systems attached. one could boot dozens of cpu servers from
> a fs with only 1gb of storage. the distribution takes only 300mb.
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Duke Normandin wrote:
[snip]
> > What is the minimum HDD capacity required to run an Auth/cpu/fs server
> > with Venti support?
>
> There's no hard and fast rule, really, but your Fossil partit
s i've had my worm, i've used
> 12gb. yet the size of my worm went from 18gb to 1500gb.
So the sub-partition fossil is mounts a WORM drive/device? or can this
sub-partition be another box on the network?
Plan 9 is sufficiently different from mainstream OSes, that it would
be nice to have a diagram available of how all the parts fit together,
along with the different terminology (in some cases) being
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> fossil - ...
> swap - ...
>
> plus "arenas" and "isect" if you chose to install venti
> but come on.
>
> when the talking takes more time than the doing, it's time
> act.
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ode" -
except the kernel controls. So the Plan 9 "servers" you are referring
to, are daemons running in user space, and not a separate physical
box, like a machine running *only* "named", and being referred to as a
"nameserver"; or another running only "httpd", and being called a
"webserver". Am I close?
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servers can run on one host, each providing a
> different aspect of an application program's run-time environment,
> but some services might (optionally) be given dedicated machines,
> such as venti and fossil.
Did I not allude to that when I used the word "daemon"?
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follows they must be impossible to garbage collect.
Nah! Not me...
> venti is the block motel. blocks check in, but they never check out.
Now that i realize what you're talking about - great analogy!
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me 2 years?
>
> i have 3 va linux machines here that are still working great
> with no leaky caps. they are all about 12 years old.
>
> (by the way, the motherboard + processor + memory
> is free to a good plan 9 home. you pay shipping.)
You would be shipping from where, approx.? How much memory in that
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