Re: [9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS

Hi Everybody, This AC97 driver seems to be around for awhile already. Why don't you just include it in the distribution? I suggest to fix the problem you guys found, compile the kernel with it, and add it to the default install CD image. Béla

Re: [9fans] Help needed - Boot Failure...

Hi, If Erik's fix works for Lyle's installation, I suggest that you include it in the distribution. Greetings: Bela (the annoying "include it in the distrib" guy)

Re: [9fans] 9load vs vista, momentus drives

We are going to see your changes in the distribution CD soon, right? (Its strange to find great solutions and fixes in the /contrib section, why are they not included in the regular install CD?) I have a problem with my Plan 9 installation in Bochs. Do you know, why I get "grep: exec header invali

Re: [9fans] installation on SATYA disk failed

I suggest that you keep the floppy-install option. If Plan 9 is installed, its normally on a virtual machine, or on an older computer somewhere in the garage, often with floppy-drives only. But if its time consuming to support it... - Can you make it automatic? when you create the boot CD, generat

Re: [9fans] installing from sdC0 or sdC1 CD

I was able to install from sdC1 in the Bochs emulator. If you install and your CD is not sdD0, you get this prompt: Unknown boot device: sdD0!cdboot!9pcflop.gz Boot device: fd0 boot from: If its sdC1 (like in my case), the answer has to be: boot from: sdC1!cdboot!9pcflop.gz More info about the

[9fans] Announcing the first Hungarian Plan 9 mailing list

Harka Győző at the University of Pécs has just started a new mailing list for the Hungarian fans of Plan 9. We discuss topics about our favorite operating system in our native language. You can join us at: https://omega.ttk.pte.hu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/9rajong

[9fans] USB HDD connection problem

Hi, I have a problem with connecting USB HDD. When i plug it in, i get this error message: /boot/usbd: /dev/usb/ep5.0: port 8: opendev: can't open endpoint /dev/usb/ep7.0: '/dev/usb' file does not exist I get this after several other tries too, only the ep-number and the port are varied. - usb/di

Re: [9fans] USB HDD connection problem

Forgot to mention, I tried to start /boot/usbd manually, i got error messages, it said that the epX.Y and port numbers are busy or something (i dont have the exact error message here, sorry). 2009/8/5 Francisco J Ballesteros : > It seems you dont have usbd running. > > El 05/08/2009, a las 17:51,

Re: [9fans] USB HDD connection problem

e (nonexistent) usbdisk manpage, not to mention the nonexistent -f and -l parameters... Can you help me? Greetings: Béla 2009/8/6 Bela Valek : > Forgot to mention, I tried to start /boot/usbd manually, i got error > messages, it said that the epX.Y and port numbers are busy or > someth

Re: [9fans] USB HDD connection problem

- usb/usbd is up and running - the only option in my BIOS is to turn USB off - I am sorry, i dont understand the part about the old and new USB devices and tools. can you explain a bit? Thanks: Béla 2009/8/7 erik quanstrom : > On Fri Aug  7 02:53:14 EDT 2009, bval...@gmail.com wrote: >> There is

[9fans] manpages broken/outdated

I have checked it on 3 different installations, the 'usbdisk' manpage is missing, on fresh installations too. Its not a filesystem corruption for sure. Most other USB-related manpages still list the nonexistent -f and -l parameters for the 'usb/disk' command. Greetings: Béla

Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated

Erik: thank you for helping, I see that the usb(4) manpage is up to date. The old usbdisk(4) manpage had a working example for attaching a FAT filesystem formatted USB hardrive. Can you tell me, where I can find the updated version of this example? Thanks: Béla

Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated

Well, then simply running 'usbfat:' is supposed to work, right? I see the warning about the untested drivers in usb(4), so a bug is no surprise i guess... I try to create a proper bugreport with exact hardware specification then. 2009/8/10 erik quanstrom : > On Mon Aug 10 08:30:37 EDT 2009, bval..

[9fans] usbd error message

I managed to reproduce the error in Bochs, the only thing I did was turning on the USB support in the emulator (usb_uhci: enabled=1). Startup: pcirouting: BIOS workaround: PCI.0.1.3 at pin 1 link 96 irq 11 -> 9 #u/usb/ep1.0: uhci: port 0xC020 irq 9 256M memory: 105M kernel data, 151M user, 576M sw

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories

> > Presumably this is because ssh is sshv1 > but bitbucket requires sshv2. > > Russ > Correct me if I am wrong, but an sshv2 server is also providing sshv1 too. Maybe when the Plan 9 ssh client is facing sshv2, instead of shutting down with an error, it should try sshv1, or wait until its offered

Re: [9fans] usbd error message

3 Noah Evans : > Are you sure you're not running two usbds? Can send a listing of your > process table? > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Bela Valek wrote: >> I managed to reproduce the error in Bochs, the only thing I did was >> turning on the USB support in

Re: [9fans] usbd error message

e: /sys/src/libthread/sched.acid: '/sys/src/libthread/sched.acid' does not exist acid: :2: (error) no function stacks acid: echo kill > /proc/95/ctl Greetings: Béla 2009/8/13 Noah Evans : > Okay, could you run: > >  echo 'stacks()' | acid -l thread > > On Thu,

Re: [9fans] usbd error message

2009/8/13 Noah Evans : > Can you mk all /sys/src/libthread. This is bogging down a bit. Take it > off-list? > I did mk, and i tried the command again, thread 5 has no process information, thread 95 gives this: term% echo 'stacks()' | acid -l thread 95 /proc/95/text:386 plan 9 executable /sys/lib

Re: [9fans] usbd error message

Its a default install, i didnt modify it. 2009/8/13 erik quanstrom : > On Thu Aug 13 06:25:14 EDT 2009, bval...@gmail.com wrote: >> First of all, i missed some pids, the total number of usbd processes is 8: >> >> glenda            5    0:00   0:00      356K Sleep    usbd >> glenda            6    

Re: [9fans] usbd error message

2009/8/13 Noah Evans : > Can you reboot the machine and then pastebin the full transcript of > what happens from boot to your usbd error? AFAIK you shouldn't have > two instances of usbd running. > Its very short, the error message comes early: Plan 9 E820: 0009f000 memory E820: 0009f000

Re: [9fans] usbd error message

2009/8/13 Noah Evans : > Can add 'flag x +' to /rc/bin/usbstart and /rc/bin/termrc and post > that output? I think I know your problem now. Also could you: > echo  | grep -s hello; echo $status > > My guess is that somehow your grep is borked and: > >        if (! ps | grep -s ' usbd$') >          

Re: [9fans] USB HDD connection problem

e problem? > I'm just reading the mail thread and don't understand why > /srv/usb is not there. It should. > > can you ls '#u' ? > Do you have usbd running? > > Sorry, just came and I might be missing some eairlier mail. > I'm still reading them all.

[9fans] Acer with 9atom.iso: out of physical memory

Hi Everybody, I try to install our favourite operating system on an Acer emachines E525 laptop. Installation succeeded with Erik's 9atom.iso, but I cannot boot. Here is the whole story: - 1. Plan 9 install CD (of Aug. 15): PBS1... Plan 9 from Bell Labs ELCR: 0C00 pcirouting: South Bridge 8086, 2

Re: [9fans] Acer with 9atom.iso: out of physical memory

> > i'll take a look at this. looks like a bug. the number of e820 > entries is also curious. > when its already installed, the system says at boot time: found 1 e820 entries > > what does /dev/swap say? > > - erik > I checked with disk/prep in live CD mode, 9fat = 100 MB, nvram = 512 B, fossi

Re: [9fans] Acer with 9atom.iso: out of physical memory

2009/8/26 erik quanstrom : >> fossil reports 'out of physical memory' immediatelly when its mounting >> the partition. I cant get to take a look at /dev/swap. > > can you use the boot cd to modify plan9.ini to set > *e820print=1 > ? > > - erik > > I tried it, nothing changed

Re: [9fans] Acer with 9atom.iso: out of physical memory

> > it wasn't expected that anything would change. > i was interested in the e820 output.  if you > would send that along, that would be helpful. > > - erik > > Oh, sorry. The install disk wrote '54 e820', the installed system already writes '1 e820' without this line added.

[9fans] plan9.iso and 9atom.iso fail on SATA & IDE system

Hi, The test subject is a desktop PC, it has SATA primary harddrive and IDE master optical drive (according to the BIOS). I tried to install with the regular CD (Aug. 15), it detected the SATA harddrive only. I also tried Erik's 9atom.iso, it detected the IDE drive only, so it booted the Live CD

Re: [9fans] plan9.iso and 9atom.iso fail on SATA & IDE system

2009/9/2 erik quanstrom : > > what date 9atom.iso?  the latest is from aug 26.  it detects > more hardware. > > could you send me the output of pci or lspci -nv or whatever > offlist? > > - erik > > I sent you the lspci -nv output private. The 9atom.iso is the latest (Aug. 26). Thank you for your

[9fans] SiS 6326 AGP problem

Hi all, I have problem with a SiS 6326 AGP type video card. The screen is "dirty" at every resolution, including x...@640x480x8 and v...@640x480x8. Its no fun without graphics, if there is a workaround, please help. Thanks: Bela

Re: [9fans] Shall we fix the use of Up/Dn arrows?

I agree, but only because PgDown and PgUp do the same as the Down and Up arrows. Having two pairs of keys doing the same thing on the keyboard is a waste. On the other hand, I found it easy to get used to the Plan 9 approach. Its comfortable for me either way, I only think that this modification wo

Re: [9fans] contrib/gui

Great tool, I just downloaded and tried it. I found a bug: if you click at the 'Info' menu item before you select any items, it dies. 2010/2/2 Federico G. Benavento : > after talking about it for some time > I got tired of talking and wrote a simple > gui installer for contrib > so if you pull con

[9fans] pppoe on Plan 9

Hi, How do we use pppoe on Plan 9? Its listening on stdin and answering on stdout. How do I have to start it, so its listening to the network interface? I have new internet probider unsing pppoe lannet, and I need help to set up Plan 9 for it (i dont even know the right questions to ask) Thanks:

Re: [9fans] pppoe on Plan 9

Thanks. I got a username, a password, and an IP address from the Internet provider. How do I give this information to ip/pppoe? If I have to use Factotum, my question is: how do I give the username and password to Factotum, so PPPoE can use it? Thanks: Bela 2010/2/20 Russ Cox : >> How do we use

Re: [9fans] pppoe on Plan 9

2010/2/22 Russ Cox : >> I got a username, a password, and an IP address from the Internet >> provider. How do I give this information to ip/pppoe? > > It should just prompt you (via factotum) for the username/password. > The IP address should be irrelevant - the ppp server > will tell you the IP ad

Re: [9fans] pppoe on Plan 9

Thanks, after I provided the service name, ip/pppoe asked for username and password. However I still didnt have Internet access. I tried ipconf/outside but it times out. Here is the complete output of ip/pppoe: http://pastebin.com/V7ACsh6g Did I forgot something? Thanks: Bela 2010/2/23 Russ Cox

[9fans] unrecognized ethernet card

Hi Everybody, I installed Plan 9 on a new computer (Erik's 9atoms.iso), it doesnt recognize the ethernet device (there is no /net/ether0). I wonder if something can be done. If changing configuration doesnt help, I hope its similar enough to an already supported device, so a few changes here and t

[9fans] out of physical memory; no swap configured

Hi, I used Erik's 9atoms.iso to install Plan 9. When its booting, after its asking for root partition and username, I get the error message repeated: "out of physical memory; no swap configured". Why, oh why? I use fossil without venti, on a 2GB partition, the RAM is also 2 GB. I found the messa

Re: [9fans] out of physical memory; no swap configured

2010/3/12 erik quanstrom : >> How do other operating systems detect the available RAM? Could Plan 9 >> use the same method? > > plan 9 uses the same methods for detecting ram > everyone else does.  perhaps we trust bios too much, > but 8mb isn't impossible, either. > > try >        a *noe820scan=1

Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

There are actual Hungarians on this mailing list, I am sure that we can be of assistance :) On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 4:41 PM, wrote: > can they do hungarian subtitles? > > -- > cinap > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Eric Van Hensbergen > To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell L